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Due to a terrible misreading of a hashtag, we prepared something to post tomorrow, then realised it was wrong.

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  • vagina_museum@masto.aiV vagina_museum@masto.ai

    Galen, like many physicians of his time, believed that heat of the body influenced the sex of any resulting offspring. While that's true for some animals, notably crocodiles, it is not pertinent to humans. Galen applied this to humans, nevertheless.

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    @vagina_museum the jordan peterson of his day

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    • vagina_museum@masto.aiV vagina_museum@masto.ai

      The thing about Galen was he wasn't just some dude who wrote weird shit two millennia ago. His comprehensive writings on medicine were practically a bible for physicians, for most of those two millennia. This left a lasting influence, some of which hangs around in cultural beliefs.

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      Galen's belief that the clitoris was not a particularly relevant organ meant that this amazing body part has been largely ignored or sometimes pathologised. Galen's beliefs about the uterus led to dismissal of ill health in women being largely put down to something about your womb being wrong. And Galen's attitude towards sex differentiation implies that not bearing sons is somehow wholly the fault of the woman.

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      • vagina_museum@masto.aiV vagina_museum@masto.ai

        Galen's belief that the clitoris was not a particularly relevant organ meant that this amazing body part has been largely ignored or sometimes pathologised. Galen's beliefs about the uterus led to dismissal of ill health in women being largely put down to something about your womb being wrong. And Galen's attitude towards sex differentiation implies that not bearing sons is somehow wholly the fault of the woman.

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        So happy #GalenTines Day. Now you have a name to blame for instigating myths and misconceptions about the gynaecological anatomy which persisted for millennia!

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        • vagina_museum@masto.aiV vagina_museum@masto.ai

          So happy #GalenTines Day. Now you have a name to blame for instigating myths and misconceptions about the gynaecological anatomy which persisted for millennia!

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          @vagina_museum this is one of those "like but not really" threads. As always, stupendously informative but also FFS. And, speaking as one - men!

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          • vagina_museum@masto.aiV vagina_museum@masto.ai

            So happy #GalenTines Day. Now you have a name to blame for instigating myths and misconceptions about the gynaecological anatomy which persisted for millennia!

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            @vagina_museum I think human dissection was banned, or at least severely frowned upon, at the time, so he likely wouldn't have had the chance to perform detailed internal anatomy investigations.

            I also think it's even more damning of the centuries of physicians who followed him that they took his writings as gospel and so much went unchallenged for so long.

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            • floppyplopper@todon.nlF floppyplopper@todon.nl

              @vagina_museum
              thanks, i'm hearing internal scrotum to the tune of personal jesus by depeche mode now.

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              @floppyplopper @vagina_museum great now I am too

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              • stavvers@masto.aiS stavvers@masto.ai

                @floppyplopper @vagina_museum great now I am too

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                @stavvers @vagina_museum
                yvw

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                • stephenwhq@mastodon.socialS stephenwhq@mastodon.social

                  @vagina_museum

                  Galen screwed up anatomy for a millennium by basing his descriptions of some internal organs on a dog. (We think)

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                  @vagina_museum

                  full marks for uterus not touring the body and existance of the clitoris, though.

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                  • vagina_museum@masto.aiV vagina_museum@masto.ai

                    So happy #GalenTines Day. Now you have a name to blame for instigating myths and misconceptions about the gynaecological anatomy which persisted for millennia!

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                    @vagina_museum What I like about you is the fact that all this stuff, that has been talked about in some way or another among feminist women, now hits the world of men. There seem to be quite some of them following you. That's great. You have to have knowledge in order to understand what a woman's life is like what our history is and what a female body experiences. It has been shut out of common knowledge for too long.I have a feeling there are quite some revelations in this, for most men.

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                    • vagina_museum@masto.aiV vagina_museum@masto.ai

                      So happy #GalenTines Day. Now you have a name to blame for instigating myths and misconceptions about the gynaecological anatomy which persisted for millennia!

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                      @vagina_museum Internal Scrotum would make a great band name BTW

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                      • theplaguedoc@glitterkitten.co.ukT theplaguedoc@glitterkitten.co.uk

                        @vagina_museum I think human dissection was banned, or at least severely frowned upon, at the time, so he likely wouldn't have had the chance to perform detailed internal anatomy investigations.

                        I also think it's even more damning of the centuries of physicians who followed him that they took his writings as gospel and so much went unchallenged for so long.

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                        @theplaguedoc @vagina_museum Well, the empirical method was not around in Europe for over thousand years, so the books of ancient authorities were the most reliable kind of knowledge available. The model for knowing things itself was taken from the gospel. Empirical methods were preserved in the arab world, resulting in knowledge transfer from muslims to christians about that towards the late middle ages.

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                        • vagina_museum@masto.aiV vagina_museum@masto.ai

                          Due to a terrible misreading of a hashtag, we prepared something to post tomorrow, then realised it was wrong. So today, let's celebrate #GalenTines Day. Here's some stuff Galen of Pergamon had to say about the gynaecological anatomy which influenced physicians for over a millennium...

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                          @vagina_museum seriously, you are the absolute best.

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                          • theplaguedoc@glitterkitten.co.ukT theplaguedoc@glitterkitten.co.uk

                            @vagina_museum I think human dissection was banned, or at least severely frowned upon, at the time, so he likely wouldn't have had the chance to perform detailed internal anatomy investigations.

                            I also think it's even more damning of the centuries of physicians who followed him that they took his writings as gospel and so much went unchallenged for so long.

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                            @theplaguedoc @vagina_museum

                            So he guessed, people know he guessed, and despite the ability to do deeper research themselves they decided "nah, this guy seems pretty confident"?
                            Is that your argument?

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                            • jackeric@beige.partyJ jackeric@beige.party

                              @vagina_museum the jordan peterson of his day

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                              @jackeric @vagina_museum

                              Honestly I was expecting it to be much, much worse. I may be... kinda' jaded these days. 🤷‍♂️

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