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I need some help from the black/grey hat community.

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  • crispius@mstdn.fname.caC This user is from outside of this forum
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    I need some help from the black/grey hat community.

    Someone in my neighborhood has an open WiFi. The signal at our house is weak, but just strong enough for my 13yo to pick it up in his bedroom. He uses it to bypass the time/content restrictions I have in place on our home network. On the one hand I mean, good for him, but on the other it’s really affecting his sleep schedule, which in turn is affecting his desire to get up for school/participate in life.

    I’ve tried obvious things like looking for a router admin page at the common addresses but haven’t found anything. It’s Telus hardware.

    Any suggestions?

    #AskMastodon #AskFedi

    action_jay@mstdn.caA kralcttam@mastodon.socialK mikeimback@disabled.socialM charette@mstdn.caC 4 Replies Last reply
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    • crispius@mstdn.fname.caC crispius@mstdn.fname.ca

      I need some help from the black/grey hat community.

      Someone in my neighborhood has an open WiFi. The signal at our house is weak, but just strong enough for my 13yo to pick it up in his bedroom. He uses it to bypass the time/content restrictions I have in place on our home network. On the one hand I mean, good for him, but on the other it’s really affecting his sleep schedule, which in turn is affecting his desire to get up for school/participate in life.

      I’ve tried obvious things like looking for a router admin page at the common addresses but haven’t found anything. It’s Telus hardware.

      Any suggestions?

      #AskMastodon #AskFedi

      action_jay@mstdn.caA This user is from outside of this forum
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      @crispius no admin page at the gateway IP?? Wild, though even if you got there the password's probably physically on the neighbour's router's label.

      I'd suggest putting controls in at the device level, depending what type of device they're using. I use Microsoft Family Safety for the kids' PCs, and Google Family Link for their Android Phones. If they figure out how to break away from the big tech defaults, they get a congratulatory cake

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      • crispius@mstdn.fname.caC crispius@mstdn.fname.ca

        I need some help from the black/grey hat community.

        Someone in my neighborhood has an open WiFi. The signal at our house is weak, but just strong enough for my 13yo to pick it up in his bedroom. He uses it to bypass the time/content restrictions I have in place on our home network. On the one hand I mean, good for him, but on the other it’s really affecting his sleep schedule, which in turn is affecting his desire to get up for school/participate in life.

        I’ve tried obvious things like looking for a router admin page at the common addresses but haven’t found anything. It’s Telus hardware.

        Any suggestions?

        #AskMastodon #AskFedi

        kralcttam@mastodon.socialK This user is from outside of this forum
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        @crispius 13? Don't let him take his devices into his room. Lock it up in the kitchen. They make time lock boxes that charge devices. Rubber hose cryptography.

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        • action_jay@mstdn.caA action_jay@mstdn.ca

          @crispius no admin page at the gateway IP?? Wild, though even if you got there the password's probably physically on the neighbour's router's label.

          I'd suggest putting controls in at the device level, depending what type of device they're using. I use Microsoft Family Safety for the kids' PCs, and Google Family Link for their Android Phones. If they figure out how to break away from the big tech defaults, they get a congratulatory cake

          crispius@mstdn.fname.caC This user is from outside of this forum
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          @action_jay
          Right? I thought that since they weren’t bright enough to secure their WiFi that their router might be set to a default password, but there appears to be at least some level of sophistication behind the setup.

          Which makes me wonder if it’s a honeypot. 🤔

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          • kralcttam@mastodon.socialK kralcttam@mastodon.social

            @crispius 13? Don't let him take his devices into his room. Lock it up in the kitchen. They make time lock boxes that charge devices. Rubber hose cryptography.

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            @kralcttam
            That was my solution also, unfortunately the wife doesn’t have my back on that one.

            (Not that she’s against it, just that she’s weak on the enforcement side)

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            • crispius@mstdn.fname.caC crispius@mstdn.fname.ca

              I need some help from the black/grey hat community.

              Someone in my neighborhood has an open WiFi. The signal at our house is weak, but just strong enough for my 13yo to pick it up in his bedroom. He uses it to bypass the time/content restrictions I have in place on our home network. On the one hand I mean, good for him, but on the other it’s really affecting his sleep schedule, which in turn is affecting his desire to get up for school/participate in life.

              I’ve tried obvious things like looking for a router admin page at the common addresses but haven’t found anything. It’s Telus hardware.

              Any suggestions?

              #AskMastodon #AskFedi

              mikeimback@disabled.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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              @crispius honestly, he's gonna stay up doing something anyways

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              • crispius@mstdn.fname.caC crispius@mstdn.fname.ca

                @action_jay
                Right? I thought that since they weren’t bright enough to secure their WiFi that their router might be set to a default password, but there appears to be at least some level of sophistication behind the setup.

                Which makes me wonder if it’s a honeypot. 🤔

                action_jay@mstdn.caA This user is from outside of this forum
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                @crispius oh dang!

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                • crispius@mstdn.fname.caC crispius@mstdn.fname.ca

                  @kralcttam
                  That was my solution also, unfortunately the wife doesn’t have my back on that one.

                  (Not that she’s against it, just that she’s weak on the enforcement side)

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                  @crispius I'm about to be there too; my son is 12, but the wife and I are on the same page about devices at night.

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                  • crispius@mstdn.fname.caC crispius@mstdn.fname.ca

                    I need some help from the black/grey hat community.

                    Someone in my neighborhood has an open WiFi. The signal at our house is weak, but just strong enough for my 13yo to pick it up in his bedroom. He uses it to bypass the time/content restrictions I have in place on our home network. On the one hand I mean, good for him, but on the other it’s really affecting his sleep schedule, which in turn is affecting his desire to get up for school/participate in life.

                    I’ve tried obvious things like looking for a router admin page at the common addresses but haven’t found anything. It’s Telus hardware.

                    Any suggestions?

                    #AskMastodon #AskFedi

                    charette@mstdn.caC This user is from outside of this forum
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                    @crispius What if you setup something with the same SSID? Can you connect to a "weak" one if there is a stronger one with the exact same name?

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                    • charette@mstdn.caC charette@mstdn.ca

                      @crispius What if you setup something with the same SSID? Can you connect to a "weak" one if there is a stronger one with the exact same name?

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                      @crispius Depends on the router you have, but my Telus one allows me to setup a 2nd "guest" network.

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