@uxmark asks:
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@uxmark asks:
Q7. When you’re cycling, how and when do you alert others to your presence?
Others can be people walking, other people cycling, or people driving motor vehicles. A bell? Your voice? A bulb horn? An air horn? Something else?
#BikeNiteQ #BikeNite #BikeTooter #Cycling #MastoBikes cc @bikenite
A7 - when overtaking pedestrians in a shared space I'd sometimes whistle while approaching them from behind.
My reasoning was
- I only want to alert them to my presence, not shoo them out of my way
- the bell is too aggressive
- voice wouldn't work; they might not understand me (because they weren't expecting to be spoken too and I didn't want to shout)
- me whistling: not aggressive and they can judge my speed from increased volume -
@uxmark asks:
Q7. When you’re cycling, how and when do you alert others to your presence?
Others can be people walking, other people cycling, or people driving motor vehicles. A bell? Your voice? A bulb horn? An air horn? Something else?
#BikeNiteQ #BikeNite #BikeTooter #Cycling #MastoBikes cc @bikenite
A7. Used to be using my bell, but the hubs in my Elite wheels are so loud that freewheeling as I approach often alerts pedestrians whom I'm approaching from behind.
Considering a fly-ahead drone with rock band volume megaphone mounted on it, for the special case of centre-of-path-wandering headphone-wearers.
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@uxmark asks:
Q7. When you’re cycling, how and when do you alert others to your presence?
Others can be people walking, other people cycling, or people driving motor vehicles. A bell? Your voice? A bulb horn? An air horn? Something else?
#BikeNiteQ #BikeNite #BikeTooter #Cycling #MastoBikes cc @bikenite
@ascentale @uxmark @bikenite A7. I use my voice mostly. "On your left!" Etc. I'll use my bell sometimes too. If there's enough room and I'm worried how the person will react I just assume I'm invisible and swing wide around them. #bikenite
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@ascentale @uxmark @bikenite #BikeNite A7. I have a couple of bells, but I find that people get freaked out by it and/or jump 2 feet up into the air in alarm and or jump into traffic... so I am not eager to use them. A headlight seems to scatter pedestrians like roaches, which is kinda rude, but effective. Yelling seems to be inviting fisticuffs. I am considering something that plays an ice cream truck melody.
@ai6yr @ascentale @uxmark @bikenite i had good results with bells, but (1) you have to use them at a fair distance to be non-threatening, and (2) you need a plan b for people who don't hear them
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@uxmark asks:
Q7. When you’re cycling, how and when do you alert others to your presence?
Others can be people walking, other people cycling, or people driving motor vehicles. A bell? Your voice? A bulb horn? An air horn? Something else?
#BikeNiteQ #BikeNite #BikeTooter #Cycling #MastoBikes cc @bikenite
@ascentale @uxmark @bikenite #bikenite !7
Usually the kitty litter tub in the crate is banging enough for people to know I'm coming. I *want* to figure out that airhorn I got but it has not worked well, for those special cases when I SEE YOU NOT SEEING ME backing out of your driveway.
ON the stretches of my commute through campus multiuse paths, which I'm not on when it's crowded, I'll sometimes do "coming up behind you" but I"ll be going *slowly* (6-8 MPH) so it's an appreciated gesture.
I do want to find or get another big bell to go in the back bag. It's delightfully annoying. -
@uxmark asks:
Q7. When you’re cycling, how and when do you alert others to your presence?
Others can be people walking, other people cycling, or people driving motor vehicles. A bell? Your voice? A bulb horn? An air horn? Something else?
#BikeNiteQ #BikeNite #BikeTooter #Cycling #MastoBikes cc @bikenite
@ascentale @uxmark @bikenite A7. I have a cute little bell that dings, but people still startle, so I follow up with a big friendly “good morning!” Not because I’m actually friendly, but because I want people to understand it was a neutral heads-up, not the equivalent of a car honking.
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@uxmark asks:
Q7. When you’re cycling, how and when do you alert others to your presence?
Others can be people walking, other people cycling, or people driving motor vehicles. A bell? Your voice? A bulb horn? An air horn? Something else?
#BikeNiteQ #BikeNite #BikeTooter #Cycling #MastoBikes cc @bikenite
@ascentale @uxmark @bikenite
A7.
The custom around here is a bell, or just holler "passing on your left!".
Bikes in Ontario need a bell or horn to be street legal, so most have one already.
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@uxmark asks:
Q7. When you’re cycling, how and when do you alert others to your presence?
Others can be people walking, other people cycling, or people driving motor vehicles. A bell? Your voice? A bulb horn? An air horn? Something else?
#BikeNiteQ #BikeNite #BikeTooter #Cycling #MastoBikes cc @bikenite
@ascentale @uxmark @bikenite why would I alert them? If I warned them, I'd lose the element of surprise and my advantage on attack rolls!
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@uxmark asks:
Q7. When you’re cycling, how and when do you alert others to your presence?
Others can be people walking, other people cycling, or people driving motor vehicles. A bell? Your voice? A bulb horn? An air horn? Something else?
#BikeNiteQ #BikeNite #BikeTooter #Cycling #MastoBikes cc @bikenite
@ascentale @uxmark @bikenite I just use my voice.
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@uxmark asks:
Q7. When you’re cycling, how and when do you alert others to your presence?
Others can be people walking, other people cycling, or people driving motor vehicles. A bell? Your voice? A bulb horn? An air horn? Something else?
#BikeNiteQ #BikeNite #BikeTooter #Cycling #MastoBikes cc @bikenite
A7 I have bells on all my bikes, but I don't use them that often; walkers tend to jump several feet when they hear a bell, and "on your left" always sounds a bit rude and perfunctory to me, so I usually go with a greeting like "good afternoon".
Though lots of walkers won't hear anything, not voice, not bell, they're lost in their own worlds or in their earbuds (or maybe they just didn't put in their hearing aids).
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@ascentale @uxmark @bikenite A7: I have a proper big ol bell. That can be tickled a bit to go "ping" like a toy bell, but you can hammer the lever to get a loud "BONG BONG BONG BONGBONGBONG" when necessary.
Used it today when someone with an off leash dog was standing in the middle of the shared path staring vacantly. Went 'ping' from 30m away, no reaction. Hammered the bell, got an "I know you're there and you can get fucked" tirade.
@ascentale @uxmark @bikenite FWIW the custom here is that there is no custom. Some shared paths have "cyclists please ring your bell" signs, most don't. Some pedestrians hate being rung at, others hate not being. Some ignore everything including council motor vehicles driving towards them. I ring my bell at people who seem likely to get/stay in the way (you'd be shocked at how much of a 3m wide path two people can fill up).
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@uxmark asks:
Q7. When you’re cycling, how and when do you alert others to your presence?
Others can be people walking, other people cycling, or people driving motor vehicles. A bell? Your voice? A bulb horn? An air horn? Something else?
#BikeNiteQ #BikeNite #BikeTooter #Cycling #MastoBikes cc @bikenite
@ascentale @uxmark @bikenite Bell, repeated if I actually need them to move.
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@ascentale @uxmark @bikenite A7. Bell and voice for walkers and other cyclists - depending on what feels right at the moment. I’ve noticed a bell can sometimes startle people and other times ends up just being ignored. #BikeNite
@kimu I do bell from far enough away that if it startles them they were going to get startled by a passing leaf.
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@uxmark asks:
Q7. When you’re cycling, how and when do you alert others to your presence?
Others can be people walking, other people cycling, or people driving motor vehicles. A bell? Your voice? A bulb horn? An air horn? Something else?
#BikeNiteQ #BikeNite #BikeTooter #Cycling #MastoBikes cc @bikenite
@ascentale @uxmark @bikenite Bell, sometimes a shout
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@ascentale @uxmark @bikenite #BikeNite A7. I have a couple of bells, but I find that people get freaked out by it and/or jump 2 feet up into the air in alarm and or jump into traffic... so I am not eager to use them. A headlight seems to scatter pedestrians like roaches, which is kinda rude, but effective. Yelling seems to be inviting fisticuffs. I am considering something that plays an ice cream truck melody.
@ai6yr @ascentale @uxmark@mstdn.ca @bikenite When my N commuted to work on his bike, he had a type of bell on his bike that was always jingling.
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@uxmark asks:
Q7. When you’re cycling, how and when do you alert others to your presence?
Others can be people walking, other people cycling, or people driving motor vehicles. A bell? Your voice? A bulb horn? An air horn? Something else?
#BikeNiteQ #BikeNite #BikeTooter #Cycling #MastoBikes cc @bikenite
@ascentale @uxmark @bikenite
#BikeNite A7:
I have a bell on two of my bikes. But the majority of the time I use my voice. I frequently ride multiuse trails with plenty of pedestrians and many walking dogs. If they have a dog, I give a warning as soon as they are in hearing range, the sooner the better, and that makes it more likely the dog will be under control by the time I pass. -
@uxmark asks:
Q7. When you’re cycling, how and when do you alert others to your presence?
Others can be people walking, other people cycling, or people driving motor vehicles. A bell? Your voice? A bulb horn? An air horn? Something else?
#BikeNiteQ #BikeNite #BikeTooter #Cycling #MastoBikes cc @bikenite
Pedestrians hear a bell and become unpredictable
Some panic
Many stop a turn to look
Some go left
Some go right
Some go left, then right.
Some don't do anything
Some get the shits.Easiest just to leave them where they are and go off the path and go around them.
Also used to have a pump up air horn. 120 decibels. People stepping out onto the road , without looking would get a quick blast. Watch them jump like they were about to be hit by a truck.
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A7. Bell or voice, depending on the situation. I get chided by @scrottie if I ding my bell too enthusiastically, heh.
@theantlady @ascentale @uxmark @bikenite Very culturally dependent. Honking in New York often means "get out of my way" or "I'm going when it isn't my turn and I'll run you over if you get in my way", and people in mid-state NY seem to interpret bike bells the same way. I see a lot of people basically leap out of the way. In Minnesota where people are a bit more chill, and apparently in Seattle too, people tend to interpret a ding as a "just letting you know I'm overtaking". So I use my voice in mid-state NY ("passing on your left"). California Birk Gilman trail is another example where there are so many people, bikes, toddlers, skateboards, ebikes, etc that it's pointless to warn people because there's a steady stream of passing bikes and the toddlers don't understand or care anyway. I think if I rode on a bike-ped path a lot, I'd do a spoke noise maker. Something to be said for Bluetoot speakers too.
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@uxmark asks:
Q7. When you’re cycling, how and when do you alert others to your presence?
Others can be people walking, other people cycling, or people driving motor vehicles. A bell? Your voice? A bulb horn? An air horn? Something else?
#BikeNiteQ #BikeNite #BikeTooter #Cycling #MastoBikes cc @bikenite
@ascentale @uxmark @bikenite In regards to pedestrians I slow down, they tend to hear my downshifts and if they really aren't noticing me I use my voice. I don't have bells on my bikes. Bikes it's usually obvious how to pass but I'm not a speed racer. For cars I yield if they don't notice me when I need to cross, ride confidently, take up a lot of space, and always use lights at night. #bikenite
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@uxmark asks:
Q7. When you’re cycling, how and when do you alert others to your presence?
Others can be people walking, other people cycling, or people driving motor vehicles. A bell? Your voice? A bulb horn? An air horn? Something else?
#BikeNiteQ #BikeNite #BikeTooter #Cycling #MastoBikes cc @bikenite
@ascentale @uxmark @bikenite I will be switching to train horn on a cordless drill.... that should cover most situations
