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Amazon are killing off their old Kindles - notably the ones which still let you remove DRM from their ebooks

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  • edent@mastodon.socialE edent@mastodon.social

    Amazon are killing off their old Kindles - notably the ones which still let you remove DRM from their ebooks.
    I suspect that it is also because they can't connect to modern TLS servers.
    A shame, although I was only using it for stripping DRM.
    There are a few jailbreaks but the hardware and software is ancient, so I might have to repurpose mine as yet another semi-passive display.
    #Amazon #Kindle #DRM

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    #4

    @Edent
    it's about control, not anti-piracy. The PW1 and earlier can't run the advanced tracking & control FW versions.

    Don't dump. Use the Kindles for Gutenberg or ebooks from Kobo (not locked to Kobo apps/ereader, though many have Adobe DRM on the downloads).

    Amazon previously ended downloads outside app / kindle.

    Publishers/ Authors: Don't give Amazon exclusive rights!

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    • edent@mastodon.socialE edent@mastodon.social

      Amazon are killing off their old Kindles - notably the ones which still let you remove DRM from their ebooks.
      I suspect that it is also because they can't connect to modern TLS servers.
      A shame, although I was only using it for stripping DRM.
      There are a few jailbreaks but the hardware and software is ancient, so I might have to repurpose mine as yet another semi-passive display.
      #Amazon #Kindle #DRM

      naturemc@mastodon.onlineN This user is from outside of this forum
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      @Edent That means that Amazon makes it easier to kill all the connections to their company? 😉 My only one was the Kindle for getting books in different languages. I was already angry that I can't save my bought books with DRM to another device.

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      • edent@mastodon.socialE edent@mastodon.social

        Amazon are killing off their old Kindles - notably the ones which still let you remove DRM from their ebooks.
        I suspect that it is also because they can't connect to modern TLS servers.
        A shame, although I was only using it for stripping DRM.
        There are a few jailbreaks but the hardware and software is ancient, so I might have to repurpose mine as yet another semi-passive display.
        #Amazon #Kindle #DRM

        koen_hufkens@mastodon.socialK This user is from outside of this forum
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        #6

        @Edent Does this also apply for the old software clients?

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        • koen_hufkens@mastodon.socialK koen_hufkens@mastodon.social

          @Edent Does this also apply for the old software clients?

          edent@mastodon.socialE This user is from outside of this forum
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          @koen_hufkens I am not Amazon. You'll need to ask them.

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          • edent@mastodon.socialE edent@mastodon.social

            Amazon are killing off their old Kindles - notably the ones which still let you remove DRM from their ebooks.
            I suspect that it is also because they can't connect to modern TLS servers.
            A shame, although I was only using it for stripping DRM.
            There are a few jailbreaks but the hardware and software is ancient, so I might have to repurpose mine as yet another semi-passive display.
            #Amazon #Kindle #DRM

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            #8

            @Edent what's particularly annoying for me is that I have a Kindle scribe and a paperwhite 1st gen that I read interchangably depending on situation and carry space. I use the amazon sync to keep my reading position synced, and using send to kindle I can't make books appear on the devices without plugging into a computer and faffing about.

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            • edent@mastodon.socialE edent@mastodon.social

              Amazon are killing off their old Kindles - notably the ones which still let you remove DRM from their ebooks.
              I suspect that it is also because they can't connect to modern TLS servers.
              A shame, although I was only using it for stripping DRM.
              There are a few jailbreaks but the hardware and software is ancient, so I might have to repurpose mine as yet another semi-passive display.
              #Amazon #Kindle #DRM

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              #9

              @Edent I have a 4 gen Kindle that I use daily (since 2011!) and absolutely love because of its physical buttons to turn the pages.

              I love it so much I bought an identical one on eBay a year ago to have a backup.

              In November of last year I jailbroke both of them... and I intend to continue to use them for as long as they will work 🥲

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              • edent@mastodon.socialE edent@mastodon.social

                Amazon are killing off their old Kindles - notably the ones which still let you remove DRM from their ebooks.
                I suspect that it is also because they can't connect to modern TLS servers.
                A shame, although I was only using it for stripping DRM.
                There are a few jailbreaks but the hardware and software is ancient, so I might have to repurpose mine as yet another semi-passive display.
                #Amazon #Kindle #DRM

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                @Edent Imagine a publisher discontinuing support for paper.

                This is why a corporation should never be in between media and the consumer with license 'management' or DRM.

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                • edent@mastodon.socialE This user is from outside of this forum
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                  @futzle TBH, it is easier to buy from Kobo. The DRM is trivial to strip and they price match Kindle.
                  There are some Amazon only exclusives, but they seem rarer these days.

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                  • edent@mastodon.socialE edent@mastodon.social

                    Amazon are killing off their old Kindles - notably the ones which still let you remove DRM from their ebooks.
                    I suspect that it is also because they can't connect to modern TLS servers.
                    A shame, although I was only using it for stripping DRM.
                    There are a few jailbreaks but the hardware and software is ancient, so I might have to repurpose mine as yet another semi-passive display.
                    #Amazon #Kindle #DRM

                    pa27@mastodon.socialP This user is from outside of this forum
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                    @Edent Now maybe the time to stop using the kindle store. The laughable thing is, given the tech they have, they sent out a generic email rather than one listing the applicable devices you actually have!
                    But the real pisser is that my most recent knidle, and the last one before they systematically enshittified the OS, is listed despite buying it in 2020!
                    So they want an awful lot of folk to buy new devices. I don't see that working well for them.

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                    • edent@mastodon.socialE edent@mastodon.social

                      Amazon are killing off their old Kindles - notably the ones which still let you remove DRM from their ebooks.
                      I suspect that it is also because they can't connect to modern TLS servers.
                      A shame, although I was only using it for stripping DRM.
                      There are a few jailbreaks but the hardware and software is ancient, so I might have to repurpose mine as yet another semi-passive display.
                      #Amazon #Kindle #DRM

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                      @Edent I recently replaced the screen on my Kindle Keyboard 3G to keep it going longer. I guess I need to get used to putting things on it via USB now.

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                      • edent@mastodon.socialE edent@mastodon.social

                        Amazon are killing off their old Kindles - notably the ones which still let you remove DRM from their ebooks.
                        I suspect that it is also because they can't connect to modern TLS servers.
                        A shame, although I was only using it for stripping DRM.
                        There are a few jailbreaks but the hardware and software is ancient, so I might have to repurpose mine as yet another semi-passive display.
                        #Amazon #Kindle #DRM

                        derickr@phpc.socialD This user is from outside of this forum
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                        @Edent I've just jailbroken my ancient PW1 with https://kindlemodding.org/jailbreaking/index.html

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                          @bobdvb @Edent yeah, the Amazon devices are almost certainly loss leaders, even when you pay extra to have no ads.

                          Consider a second hand older Kindle and root it/put alternate firmware or reader app on it?

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                          • edent@mastodon.socialE edent@mastodon.social

                            Amazon are killing off their old Kindles - notably the ones which still let you remove DRM from their ebooks.
                            I suspect that it is also because they can't connect to modern TLS servers.
                            A shame, although I was only using it for stripping DRM.
                            There are a few jailbreaks but the hardware and software is ancient, so I might have to repurpose mine as yet another semi-passive display.
                            #Amazon #Kindle #DRM

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                            @Edent
                            I have an old Kindle given to me by somebody who didn't want it anymore. I was hoping to jailbreak it to use it as a simple tablet without Amazon dependencies. I hope this news won't prevent that.

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                            • naturemc@mastodon.onlineN This user is from outside of this forum
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                              @bobdvb I think that all readers are quite the same price in production, some companies like Amazon only subsidise them ...

                              With an epub reader you are already out of their prison ...

                              @Edent

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                              • edent@mastodon.socialE edent@mastodon.social

                                Amazon are killing off their old Kindles - notably the ones which still let you remove DRM from their ebooks.
                                I suspect that it is also because they can't connect to modern TLS servers.
                                A shame, although I was only using it for stripping DRM.
                                There are a few jailbreaks but the hardware and software is ancient, so I might have to repurpose mine as yet another semi-passive display.
                                #Amazon #Kindle #DRM

                                suedioh@mastodon.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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                                @Edent I have books that are decades old that still work. Every time.

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                                • suedioh@mastodon.socialS suedioh@mastodon.social

                                  @Edent I have books that are decades old that still work. Every time.

                                  alterelefant@mastodontech.deA This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  @SueDiOh
                                  Just wait until the publisher knocks on your door, walks in and takes those books away.
                                  @Edent

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                                  • edent@mastodon.socialE edent@mastodon.social

                                    Amazon are killing off their old Kindles - notably the ones which still let you remove DRM from their ebooks.
                                    I suspect that it is also because they can't connect to modern TLS servers.
                                    A shame, although I was only using it for stripping DRM.
                                    There are a few jailbreaks but the hardware and software is ancient, so I might have to repurpose mine as yet another semi-passive display.
                                    #Amazon #Kindle #DRM

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                                    @Edent #Kobo

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                                    • alterelefant@mastodontech.deA alterelefant@mastodontech.de

                                      @SueDiOh
                                      Just wait until the publisher knocks on your door, walks in and takes those books away.
                                      @Edent

                                      edent@mastodon.socialE This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      @alterelefant @SueDiOh
                                      I have books which are decades old which can't be found in stores any more - I simply can't buy a replacement.. I also have books which are damaged too much by water and sunlight - they're no longer readable.

                                      eBooks are superior in all the ways that matter. Once the DRM is removed they're effectively immortal.

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                                      • focusedontheberry@mastodon.socialF focusedontheberry@mastodon.social

                                        @Edent #Kobo

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                                        @focusedontheberry #Sandwiches

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                                          @NormanDunbar @Edent A third-party ebooks reader that understand more than just Amazon's format, and tinkering possibilities.

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