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I'm giving up on Google.

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  • lina@vt.socialL lina@vt.social

    I'm giving up on Google. None of the projects I've been working on (spout2pw, obs-pwvideo, libfunnel) are searchable, you get everything except for the actual project sites/repos. I put up a landing page and it briefly ranked and then disappeared.

    DuckDuckGo has no issues. I'm switching.

    How badly do you have to screw up search to not be able to search for an open source project and get, you know, the actual home page, repository, or documentation for that project at least somewhere in the first page of results? This is not hard...

    wombatpandaa@mastodon.socialW This user is from outside of this forum
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    @lina I feel you, this is why I switched away from Google as well.

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    • adam_howard@planet.moeA adam_howard@planet.moe

      @lina

      That is odd. I am using a VPN which reports me as in Japan and it works for me. ๐Ÿค”

      I have a few more search engines outside the United States on my list here for you to try:

      Cookie monster!

      favicon

      (codeberg.org)

      su_melan@ani.workS This user is from outside of this forum
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      @Adam_Howard @lina hmm, same in japan ๐Ÿ˜ž

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      • lina@vt.socialL lina@vt.social

        I'm giving up on Google. None of the projects I've been working on (spout2pw, obs-pwvideo, libfunnel) are searchable, you get everything except for the actual project sites/repos. I put up a landing page and it briefly ranked and then disappeared.

        DuckDuckGo has no issues. I'm switching.

        How badly do you have to screw up search to not be able to search for an open source project and get, you know, the actual home page, repository, or documentation for that project at least somewhere in the first page of results? This is not hard...

        vinmar@mastodon.socialV This user is from outside of this forum
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        @lina Just tried searching with Kagi, no issues either. Glad I switched. Was very unhappy with the way Google provided search results and the shift they made

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        • lina@vt.socialL lina@vt.social

          I'm giving up on Google. None of the projects I've been working on (spout2pw, obs-pwvideo, libfunnel) are searchable, you get everything except for the actual project sites/repos. I put up a landing page and it briefly ranked and then disappeared.

          DuckDuckGo has no issues. I'm switching.

          How badly do you have to screw up search to not be able to search for an open source project and get, you know, the actual home page, repository, or documentation for that project at least somewhere in the first page of results? This is not hard...

          mananabanana@hachyderm.ioM This user is from outside of this forum
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          @lina Apparantly, google is indexing based on whether the content seems to be generated by Gemini or not
          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=II2QF9JwtLc

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          • lina@vt.socialL lina@vt.social

            I'm giving up on Google. None of the projects I've been working on (spout2pw, obs-pwvideo, libfunnel) are searchable, you get everything except for the actual project sites/repos. I put up a landing page and it briefly ranked and then disappeared.

            DuckDuckGo has no issues. I'm switching.

            How badly do you have to screw up search to not be able to search for an open source project and get, you know, the actual home page, repository, or documentation for that project at least somewhere in the first page of results? This is not hard...

            blaztinn@mastodon.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
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            @lina Have you tried https://www.ecosia.org/

            It uses the same search index as Qwant (https://blog.ecosia.org/launching-our-european-search-index/)

            I switched to it from DuckDuckGo and I'm quite liking it ๐Ÿ™‚

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            • lina@vt.socialL lina@vt.social

              I'm giving up on Google. None of the projects I've been working on (spout2pw, obs-pwvideo, libfunnel) are searchable, you get everything except for the actual project sites/repos. I put up a landing page and it briefly ranked and then disappeared.

              DuckDuckGo has no issues. I'm switching.

              How badly do you have to screw up search to not be able to search for an open source project and get, you know, the actual home page, repository, or documentation for that project at least somewhere in the first page of results? This is not hard...

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              @lina I switched to kagi years ago because its search was somewhat better, but I didn't expect it to become so much better

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              • blaztinn@mastodon.socialB blaztinn@mastodon.social

                @lina Have you tried https://www.ecosia.org/

                It uses the same search index as Qwant (https://blog.ecosia.org/launching-our-european-search-index/)

                I switched to it from DuckDuckGo and I'm quite liking it ๐Ÿ™‚

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                @blaztinn That one does work but all the search results seem to be provided by Bing... so I'm not sure how it's much different from DDG?

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                • lina@vt.socialL lina@vt.social

                  I'm giving up on Google. None of the projects I've been working on (spout2pw, obs-pwvideo, libfunnel) are searchable, you get everything except for the actual project sites/repos. I put up a landing page and it briefly ranked and then disappeared.

                  DuckDuckGo has no issues. I'm switching.

                  How badly do you have to screw up search to not be able to search for an open source project and get, you know, the actual home page, repository, or documentation for that project at least somewhere in the first page of results? This is not hard...

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                  @lina What's sad is that Google used to be great. To the point of having that "I'm feeling lucky" button which went directly to the first result, because the first result was the best one that often.

                  I don't know when Google jumped the shark. To me, it was probably when I had to remove it from the "always run JS from this site because I trust it" list, because IIRC it started moving things in the search results page when hovering over links. But it probably started when they bought doubleclick.

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                  • lina@vt.socialL lina@vt.social

                    @blaztinn That one does work but all the search results seem to be provided by Bing... so I'm not sure how it's much different from DDG?

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                    #27

                    @lina Ah I didn't read the linked blog post in detail. They started rolling out european-based search index (https://www.eu-searchperspective.com/) only for users from France. I guess that's why I easily switched from DDG ๐Ÿ˜„

                    What differentiates Ecosia from DDG is that they are spending a lot of their revenue for fighting climate change (https://blog.ecosia.org/ecosia-financial-reports-tree-planting-receipts/). On the other I don't know if they are as privacy focused as DDG.

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                    • lina@vt.socialL lina@vt.social

                      I'm giving up on Google. None of the projects I've been working on (spout2pw, obs-pwvideo, libfunnel) are searchable, you get everything except for the actual project sites/repos. I put up a landing page and it briefly ranked and then disappeared.

                      DuckDuckGo has no issues. I'm switching.

                      How badly do you have to screw up search to not be able to search for an open source project and get, you know, the actual home page, repository, or documentation for that project at least somewhere in the first page of results? This is not hard...

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                      @lina the only thing keeping me on any google services at all is maps... openstreetmaps are just not even close to good enough, I can't even find the times businesses close on it.

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                      • pliny@tech.lgbtP This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #29

                        @Adam_Howard @keyshooter @lina Not necessarily. Kagi offers options to pay anonymously and features them in thier FAQ.

                        There is still the elevated risk of them being US based, but they at least take the minimum precautions.

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                        • lina@vt.socialL lina@vt.social

                          I'm giving up on Google. None of the projects I've been working on (spout2pw, obs-pwvideo, libfunnel) are searchable, you get everything except for the actual project sites/repos. I put up a landing page and it briefly ranked and then disappeared.

                          DuckDuckGo has no issues. I'm switching.

                          How badly do you have to screw up search to not be able to search for an open source project and get, you know, the actual home page, repository, or documentation for that project at least somewhere in the first page of results? This is not hard...

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                          @lina Thanks for the nudge. Yesterday somebody mentione dTiptoe through the Tulips and Google did not yield anything except stuff about Tiny Tim ignoring me adding "nasturtiums" to the mix.
                          Duck Duck Go yielded instant results. https://youtu.be/GZ_wkH4AUeM?si=weewe0dx2YUgsvC5

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                          • lina@vt.socialL lina@vt.social

                            I'm giving up on Google. None of the projects I've been working on (spout2pw, obs-pwvideo, libfunnel) are searchable, you get everything except for the actual project sites/repos. I put up a landing page and it briefly ranked and then disappeared.

                            DuckDuckGo has no issues. I'm switching.

                            How badly do you have to screw up search to not be able to search for an open source project and get, you know, the actual home page, repository, or documentation for that project at least somewhere in the first page of results? This is not hard...

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                            @lina Interestingly, while I use DuckDuckGo by default, I quite often have to switch to Google as I'm not finding what I'm looking for.

                            Just the other day I was looking into a frequent warning with the nvidia driver, and DuckDuckGo has zero results for "drm_page_free" whereas Google had a few results and I found posts with the same trace.

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