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I'm giving up on Google.

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  • keyshooter@akko.wtfK keyshooter@akko.wtf
    @lina @Adam_Howard i pay for kagi, is quite good afaik, i never heard of this other one, gonna investigate and see if it also helps
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    @lina @Adam_Howard looks like it works on my country? interesting
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      @Adam_Howard @lina trueeee.... that's why i was looking to see if this works, the problem is that kagi is really darn good when you are a developer
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        @Adam_Howard @lina will start experimenting!! til something new
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        • lina@vt.socialL This user is from outside of this forum
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          @Adam_Howard I'm in Japan.

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          • lina@vt.socialL lina@vt.social

            @Adam_Howard I'm in Japan.

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            @lina

            That is odd. I am using a VPN which reports me as in Japan and it works for me. 🤔

            I have a few more search engines outside the United States on my list here for you to try:

            Cookie monster!

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            • lina@vt.socialL lina@vt.social

              I'm giving up on Google. None of the projects I've been working on (spout2pw, obs-pwvideo, libfunnel) are searchable, you get everything except for the actual project sites/repos. I put up a landing page and it briefly ranked and then disappeared.

              DuckDuckGo has no issues. I'm switching.

              How badly do you have to screw up search to not be able to search for an open source project and get, you know, the actual home page, repository, or documentation for that project at least somewhere in the first page of results? This is not hard...

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              @lina indeed first 3 pages on DDG are relevant. (Github, homepage, yt) That's how a search engine should be performing. 😄

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              • adam_howard@planet.moeA adam_howard@planet.moe

                @lina

                That is odd. I am using a VPN which reports me as in Japan and it works for me. 🤔

                I have a few more search engines outside the United States on my list here for you to try:

                Cookie monster!

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                (codeberg.org)

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                @Adam_Howard I tried both LTE and WiFi (two different providers) and both are blocked...

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                • lina@vt.socialL lina@vt.social

                  @Adam_Howard I tried both LTE and WiFi (two different providers) and both are blocked...

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                  @lina

                  Really odd. 🤔. As I said, I do have a list of search engines outside the United States.

                  Qwant — France, Europe
                  https://www.qwant.com

                  Ecosia — Germany, Europe
                  https://www.ecosia.org

                  Mojeek — England, Europe
                  https://www.mojeek.com

                  Swisscows — Switzerland, Europe
                  https://swisscows.com

                  Naver — South Korea, Asia
                  https://www.naver.com

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                  • lina@vt.socialL lina@vt.social

                    I'm giving up on Google. None of the projects I've been working on (spout2pw, obs-pwvideo, libfunnel) are searchable, you get everything except for the actual project sites/repos. I put up a landing page and it briefly ranked and then disappeared.

                    DuckDuckGo has no issues. I'm switching.

                    How badly do you have to screw up search to not be able to search for an open source project and get, you know, the actual home page, repository, or documentation for that project at least somewhere in the first page of results? This is not hard...

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                    @lina I recently was told about SearXNG and now use that

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                    • lina@vt.socialL lina@vt.social

                      I'm giving up on Google. None of the projects I've been working on (spout2pw, obs-pwvideo, libfunnel) are searchable, you get everything except for the actual project sites/repos. I put up a landing page and it briefly ranked and then disappeared.

                      DuckDuckGo has no issues. I'm switching.

                      How badly do you have to screw up search to not be able to search for an open source project and get, you know, the actual home page, repository, or documentation for that project at least somewhere in the first page of results? This is not hard...

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                      @lina I've previously had issues where I'll have a technical problem, search online with the specific keywords describing the problem, and Google just gives me a hundred articles about how "this software so great because you can't have the described problem!"

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                        @Adam_Howard @lina nothing ist out of DTs influence. 😐 But every little step to cut his options counts.

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                        • lina@vt.socialL lina@vt.social

                          I'm giving up on Google. None of the projects I've been working on (spout2pw, obs-pwvideo, libfunnel) are searchable, you get everything except for the actual project sites/repos. I put up a landing page and it briefly ranked and then disappeared.

                          DuckDuckGo has no issues. I'm switching.

                          How badly do you have to screw up search to not be able to search for an open source project and get, you know, the actual home page, repository, or documentation for that project at least somewhere in the first page of results? This is not hard...

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                          @lina I feel you, this is why I switched away from Google as well.

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                          • adam_howard@planet.moeA adam_howard@planet.moe

                            @lina

                            That is odd. I am using a VPN which reports me as in Japan and it works for me. 🤔

                            I have a few more search engines outside the United States on my list here for you to try:

                            Cookie monster!

                            favicon

                            (codeberg.org)

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                            @Adam_Howard @lina hmm, same in japan 😞

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                            • lina@vt.socialL lina@vt.social

                              I'm giving up on Google. None of the projects I've been working on (spout2pw, obs-pwvideo, libfunnel) are searchable, you get everything except for the actual project sites/repos. I put up a landing page and it briefly ranked and then disappeared.

                              DuckDuckGo has no issues. I'm switching.

                              How badly do you have to screw up search to not be able to search for an open source project and get, you know, the actual home page, repository, or documentation for that project at least somewhere in the first page of results? This is not hard...

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                              @lina Just tried searching with Kagi, no issues either. Glad I switched. Was very unhappy with the way Google provided search results and the shift they made

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                              • lina@vt.socialL lina@vt.social

                                I'm giving up on Google. None of the projects I've been working on (spout2pw, obs-pwvideo, libfunnel) are searchable, you get everything except for the actual project sites/repos. I put up a landing page and it briefly ranked and then disappeared.

                                DuckDuckGo has no issues. I'm switching.

                                How badly do you have to screw up search to not be able to search for an open source project and get, you know, the actual home page, repository, or documentation for that project at least somewhere in the first page of results? This is not hard...

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                                @lina Apparantly, google is indexing based on whether the content seems to be generated by Gemini or not
                                https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=II2QF9JwtLc

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                                • lina@vt.socialL lina@vt.social

                                  I'm giving up on Google. None of the projects I've been working on (spout2pw, obs-pwvideo, libfunnel) are searchable, you get everything except for the actual project sites/repos. I put up a landing page and it briefly ranked and then disappeared.

                                  DuckDuckGo has no issues. I'm switching.

                                  How badly do you have to screw up search to not be able to search for an open source project and get, you know, the actual home page, repository, or documentation for that project at least somewhere in the first page of results? This is not hard...

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                                  @lina Have you tried https://www.ecosia.org/

                                  It uses the same search index as Qwant (https://blog.ecosia.org/launching-our-european-search-index/)

                                  I switched to it from DuckDuckGo and I'm quite liking it 🙂

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                                  • lina@vt.socialL lina@vt.social

                                    I'm giving up on Google. None of the projects I've been working on (spout2pw, obs-pwvideo, libfunnel) are searchable, you get everything except for the actual project sites/repos. I put up a landing page and it briefly ranked and then disappeared.

                                    DuckDuckGo has no issues. I'm switching.

                                    How badly do you have to screw up search to not be able to search for an open source project and get, you know, the actual home page, repository, or documentation for that project at least somewhere in the first page of results? This is not hard...

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                                    @lina I switched to kagi years ago because its search was somewhat better, but I didn't expect it to become so much better

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                                    • blaztinn@mastodon.socialB blaztinn@mastodon.social

                                      @lina Have you tried https://www.ecosia.org/

                                      It uses the same search index as Qwant (https://blog.ecosia.org/launching-our-european-search-index/)

                                      I switched to it from DuckDuckGo and I'm quite liking it 🙂

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                                      @blaztinn That one does work but all the search results seem to be provided by Bing... so I'm not sure how it's much different from DDG?

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                                      • lina@vt.socialL lina@vt.social

                                        I'm giving up on Google. None of the projects I've been working on (spout2pw, obs-pwvideo, libfunnel) are searchable, you get everything except for the actual project sites/repos. I put up a landing page and it briefly ranked and then disappeared.

                                        DuckDuckGo has no issues. I'm switching.

                                        How badly do you have to screw up search to not be able to search for an open source project and get, you know, the actual home page, repository, or documentation for that project at least somewhere in the first page of results? This is not hard...

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                                        @lina What's sad is that Google used to be great. To the point of having that "I'm feeling lucky" button which went directly to the first result, because the first result was the best one that often.

                                        I don't know when Google jumped the shark. To me, it was probably when I had to remove it from the "always run JS from this site because I trust it" list, because IIRC it started moving things in the search results page when hovering over links. But it probably started when they bought doubleclick.

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                                        • lina@vt.socialL lina@vt.social

                                          @blaztinn That one does work but all the search results seem to be provided by Bing... so I'm not sure how it's much different from DDG?

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                                          @lina Ah I didn't read the linked blog post in detail. They started rolling out european-based search index (https://www.eu-searchperspective.com/) only for users from France. I guess that's why I easily switched from DDG 😄

                                          What differentiates Ecosia from DDG is that they are spending a lot of their revenue for fighting climate change (https://blog.ecosia.org/ecosia-financial-reports-tree-planting-receipts/). On the other I don't know if they are as privacy focused as DDG.

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