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Why in the world does every store, every service, every organization need an "app"?

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  • firlefanz@writing.exchangeF firlefanz@writing.exchange

    Why in the world does every store, every service, every organization need an "app"?

    What is wrong with having a decent, functioning website?

    I do not want to read, buy, organize and research things in an "app". I want websites. I mean, why do we have those big screens, right?

    I hate, hate, HATE apps. I hate having to use my phone.

    Why is everyone trying to make me use a tiny screen, a crappy "keyboard" with minuscule keys, and insists that is progress?

    #Internet
    #Websites
    #Apps

    slott56@fosstodon.orgS This user is from outside of this forum
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    @Firlefanz read Doctrow’s Enshittification. Apps have anti-tampering, anti-reverse engineering protections web sites lack.

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    • firlefanz@writing.exchangeF firlefanz@writing.exchange

      Why in the world does every store, every service, every organization need an "app"?

      What is wrong with having a decent, functioning website?

      I do not want to read, buy, organize and research things in an "app". I want websites. I mean, why do we have those big screens, right?

      I hate, hate, HATE apps. I hate having to use my phone.

      Why is everyone trying to make me use a tiny screen, a crappy "keyboard" with minuscule keys, and insists that is progress?

      #Internet
      #Websites
      #Apps

      crcollins@writing.exchangeC This user is from outside of this forum
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      @Firlefanz

      I think they assume it will trap you into using their service more or buying from them more since you went to the trouble of downloading and setting their app up. I only do this for companies I already like and intend to keep using. With the others, if they don't have an accessible website that's easy to navigate, I move on.

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      • slott56@fosstodon.orgS slott56@fosstodon.org

        @Firlefanz read Doctrow’s Enshittification. Apps have anti-tampering, anti-reverse engineering protections web sites lack.

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        @slott56

        I would assume Apps have that only if it's programmed into them.

        But thanks, that is a good point to keep in mind.

        I'm just so fed with creating accounts for every little service, giving them name, address birthday, they are all grabbing data when I don't really want them to.

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        • crcollins@writing.exchangeC crcollins@writing.exchange

          @Firlefanz

          I think they assume it will trap you into using their service more or buying from them more since you went to the trouble of downloading and setting their app up. I only do this for companies I already like and intend to keep using. With the others, if they don't have an accessible website that's easy to navigate, I move on.

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          @crcollins

          Yep, that's what I usually do, as well.

          They want me to use an app? Nope.

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          • firlefanz@writing.exchangeF firlefanz@writing.exchange

            Why in the world does every store, every service, every organization need an "app"?

            What is wrong with having a decent, functioning website?

            I do not want to read, buy, organize and research things in an "app". I want websites. I mean, why do we have those big screens, right?

            I hate, hate, HATE apps. I hate having to use my phone.

            Why is everyone trying to make me use a tiny screen, a crappy "keyboard" with minuscule keys, and insists that is progress?

            #Internet
            #Websites
            #Apps

            firlefanz@writing.exchangeF This user is from outside of this forum
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            And well... I suppose that also answers my question:

            forbes.com

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            (www.forbes.com)

            Apps might be more resistant to the lastest Google attack.

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            • firlefanz@writing.exchangeF firlefanz@writing.exchange

              @slott56

              I would assume Apps have that only if it's programmed into them.

              But thanks, that is a good point to keep in mind.

              I'm just so fed with creating accounts for every little service, giving them name, address birthday, they are all grabbing data when I don't really want them to.

              joyce@hcommons.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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              @Firlefanz @slott56

              I'm sure the anti-tampering stuff is true, but I also hate apps with a passion and do not use them if there is any way to avoid them.

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              • firlefanz@writing.exchangeF firlefanz@writing.exchange

                Why in the world does every store, every service, every organization need an "app"?

                What is wrong with having a decent, functioning website?

                I do not want to read, buy, organize and research things in an "app". I want websites. I mean, why do we have those big screens, right?

                I hate, hate, HATE apps. I hate having to use my phone.

                Why is everyone trying to make me use a tiny screen, a crappy "keyboard" with minuscule keys, and insists that is progress?

                #Internet
                #Websites
                #Apps

                scottrochester@mastodon.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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                @Firlefanz my iPhone has the apps which came on it.

                I have added Mastodon and Bluesky.

                I do not need to add anything else.

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                • slott56@fosstodon.orgS slott56@fosstodon.org

                  @Firlefanz read Doctrow’s Enshittification. Apps have anti-tampering, anti-reverse engineering protections web sites lack.

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                  @slott56 @Firlefanz Apps also allow corporations to collect much more data about the user.

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                  • firlefanz@writing.exchangeF firlefanz@writing.exchange

                    @slott56

                    I would assume Apps have that only if it's programmed into them.

                    But thanks, that is a good point to keep in mind.

                    I'm just so fed with creating accounts for every little service, giving them name, address birthday, they are all grabbing data when I don't really want them to.

                    slott56@fosstodon.orgS This user is from outside of this forum
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                    @Firlefanz nah. It’s the law. Apps are covered by anti-tampering laws.

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                    • stevendbrewer@wandering.shopS stevendbrewer@wandering.shop

                      @slott56 @Firlefanz Apps also allow corporations to collect much more data about the user.

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                      #11

                      @stevendbrewer

                      That is my impression, yes. Data grabs.

                      @slott56

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                      • slott56@fosstodon.orgS slott56@fosstodon.org

                        @Firlefanz nah. It’s the law. Apps are covered by anti-tampering laws.

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                        @slott56

                        Where?

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                        • firlefanz@writing.exchangeF firlefanz@writing.exchange

                          @slott56

                          Where?

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                          @Firlefanz @slott56 DMCA.

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                          • stevendbrewer@wandering.shopS stevendbrewer@wandering.shop

                            @Firlefanz @slott56 DMCA.

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                            @stevendbrewer

                            No, I meant which country. Because as far as I know there are few international laws about software.

                            @slott56

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                            • firlefanz@writing.exchangeF firlefanz@writing.exchange

                              @stevendbrewer

                              No, I meant which country. Because as far as I know there are few international laws about software.

                              @slott56

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                              @Firlefanz @stevendbrewer USA. The original intent might have been anti-circumvention of various locks and controls on DVD players to help manage intellectual property. (ie. movie anti-piracy). But it is broadly applied to any software you purchase.

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                              • slott56@fosstodon.orgS slott56@fosstodon.org

                                @Firlefanz @stevendbrewer USA. The original intent might have been anti-circumvention of various locks and controls on DVD players to help manage intellectual property. (ie. movie anti-piracy). But it is broadly applied to any software you purchase.

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                                @slott56 @Firlefanz Yeah, but @pluralistic did a great job of laying out in this talk how the USA has pressured basically every country in the world to pass identical anti-circumvention legislation. He's pointed out that they could reclaim their digital sovereignty by repealing those laws and allowing their people to circumvent the techbro's lock on innovation: https://pluralistic.net/2026/01/01/39c3/#the-new-coalition

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