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UK PEOPLE: this is REALLY IMPORTANT.

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  • A aliengasmask@mas.to

    @oschonrock @cstross but how do you prevent ip tracking by advertisers without a vpn? Vpns are necessary to close off that last bit of data.

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    @aliengasmask @cstross

    ip tracking is not "the last bit of data"..it's the first. Advertisers are much smarter than that. This is one of the myths perpetuated by VPN vendors.

    If you care, TOR browser will help with many more of their tricks. (Still Not all... If you need proper anonymity use "tails" and proper op-sec)

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    • christineburns@mastodon.greenC christineburns@mastodon.green

      @only_ohm @dan @jaawerth @cstross @Nicovel0 That was my first thought, given that the whole idea of distributed working across a company’s office locations and working from home relies on virtual private networking. VPNs are not just for concealing your current location. Modern business life relies on them. Otherwise we’re back to leased lines.

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      @christineburns @dan @jaawerth @cstross @Nicovel0

      Employers are (unfortunately, IMO) required to collect employees' official identity documents for immigration control purposes anyway, so presumably even if the legislation had applied to workplace VPNs, age verification there would have been easy.

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      • jaawerth@functional.cafeJ jaawerth@functional.cafe

        @dan @only_ohm @cstross @Nicovel0 the language is inexact so they can make it mean what they think it should, yeah. or more accurate they hope they'll figure it out later when stuff comes up. Like "provided to a significant number of persons" could mean literally anything, even if we could theorycraft what it probably means

        As for TOR, well, my guess is it qualifies but enforcing it is another question. Possible, but seems like it'd just be wack-a-mole

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        @jaawerth @dan @cstross @Nicovel0

        In a sense, inexactitude is good, because the Human Rights Act requires the courts to interpret all other legislation, as far as possible, in a way compatible with the ECHR rights, and all else being equal, greater vagueness will enable them to do that better.

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          @cstross

          Good luck to the government making every company register every adhoc vpn between sites, or even my home Tailscale to my parents...

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          • oschonrock@mastodon.socialO oschonrock@mastodon.social

            @Ulrich_the_elder @cstross @Fonant @PeterSommerlad TBF... Blair was better..

            He communicated better. So he managed to achieve more things that a labour govt should..

            Notably in education for him..

            But yeah he fucked it up by being a religious nutcase going on crusades in the middle east...(Very Tory) Among other things

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            @oschonrock @cstross @Fonant @PeterSommerlad Blair being slightly less horrible is not a reason to have a fucking tory lead the labour party. The labour party when led by a tory is the tory party.

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            • ulrich_the_elder@thecanadian.socialU ulrich_the_elder@thecanadian.social

              @oschonrock @cstross @Fonant @PeterSommerlad Blair being slightly less horrible is not a reason to have a fucking tory lead the labour party. The labour party when led by a tory is the tory party.

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              @Ulrich_the_elder @cstross @Fonant @PeterSommerlad

              I don't necessarily disagree, but you sound like one of those boring people who see everything in black and white.

              So I am not engaging with that.

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              • cstross@wandering.shopC cstross@wandering.shop

                RE: https://social.vivaldi.net/@LonM/115966748145817371

                UK PEOPLE: this is REALLY IMPORTANT. If the government bans under-16s from using VPNs, then logically they must intend to REQUIRE AGE VERIFICATION FOR ALL VPN USE. Which will affect adults too!

                *Your* privacy and right to anonymous web browsing is at risk!

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                @cstross Only if I want to access content that's not appropriate for under-16s. If I did, I'd watch TV. I think I heard a Labour minister celebrating that compulsory age-checks on pr0n sites had greatly reduced consumption. There goes another successful UK industry. I wonder what the punters did with their sexual frustration instead? MPs can have that question free, to ask at PMQs.

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                • W woo@fosstodon.org

                  @cstross Only if I want to access content that's not appropriate for under-16s. If I did, I'd watch TV. I think I heard a Labour minister celebrating that compulsory age-checks on pr0n sites had greatly reduced consumption. There goes another successful UK industry. I wonder what the punters did with their sexual frustration instead? MPs can have that question free, to ask at PMQs.

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                  @woo Weirdly, VPN users rose by *almost exactly* the same number as the fall in age-verified porn users. Fancy that!

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