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Before those 8,700 jobs go, the public deserves four things:

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  • clarebear@mastodon.nzC This user is from outside of this forum
    clarebear@mastodon.nzC This user is from outside of this forum
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    Before those 8,700 jobs go, the public deserves four things:

    A complete cost projection from Treasury, including what the AI itself will cost over time.

    A public register listing every place AI is being used in government.

    An Office for AI with real power to assess and stop risky projects.

    A clear answer on which overseas companies our information is being handed to, and on what terms.

    AI is not a magic wand. It is a contract. New Zealanders are entitled to see the terms before our names are signed to it.

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    Before we let AI run the public service, we need to know the full impact

    New Zealand is badly under-prepared for mass deployment of AI in the public sector - and the latest Budget measures are being made without safeguards, writes Professor Alexandra Andhov

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    moz@fosstodon.orgM libroraptor@mastodon.nzL abt1181@ioc.exchangeA 3 Replies Last reply
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    • clarebear@mastodon.nzC clarebear@mastodon.nz

      Before those 8,700 jobs go, the public deserves four things:

      A complete cost projection from Treasury, including what the AI itself will cost over time.

      A public register listing every place AI is being used in government.

      An Office for AI with real power to assess and stop risky projects.

      A clear answer on which overseas companies our information is being handed to, and on what terms.

      AI is not a magic wand. It is a contract. New Zealanders are entitled to see the terms before our names are signed to it.

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      Before we let AI run the public service, we need to know the full impact

      New Zealand is badly under-prepared for mass deployment of AI in the public sector - and the latest Budget measures are being made without safeguards, writes Professor Alexandra Andhov

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      #nzpol

      moz@fosstodon.orgM This user is from outside of this forum
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      moz@fosstodon.org
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      @ClareBear We're still in the "charge nothing to attract users" phase, we don't know how much is costs to use LLMs even at the vague guess level. This is "dis-establishing the taxi industry because Uber is cheap" territory.

      You could take a rough stab by saying "they've invested $US2T so far, they're going to want that back with bells on".

      #nzpol

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      • moz@fosstodon.orgM moz@fosstodon.org

        @ClareBear We're still in the "charge nothing to attract users" phase, we don't know how much is costs to use LLMs even at the vague guess level. This is "dis-establishing the taxi industry because Uber is cheap" territory.

        You could take a rough stab by saying "they've invested $US2T so far, they're going to want that back with bells on".

        #nzpol

        jeremy_pm@mastodon.nzJ This user is from outside of this forum
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        @moz @ClareBear

        The thing with the Ai bubble is it’s currently losing billions of dollars and only able to keep up the pretence of legitimacy thanks to the large sums of money being poured into it from Gulf State oil profits.

        Those investments have continued due to the obligations of the petrodollar requiring all OPEC oil profits to be invested in either US treasury bonds or the US stock exchange but now as a result of the incredibly dumb and illegal war against Iran those GCC countries are no longer able to maintain their level of investment and are in fact now beginning to divest from US stocks and treasury bonds.

        I suspect the Ai bubble is about to burst.

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        • clarebear@mastodon.nzC clarebear@mastodon.nz

          Before those 8,700 jobs go, the public deserves four things:

          A complete cost projection from Treasury, including what the AI itself will cost over time.

          A public register listing every place AI is being used in government.

          An Office for AI with real power to assess and stop risky projects.

          A clear answer on which overseas companies our information is being handed to, and on what terms.

          AI is not a magic wand. It is a contract. New Zealanders are entitled to see the terms before our names are signed to it.

          Link Preview Image
          Before we let AI run the public service, we need to know the full impact

          New Zealand is badly under-prepared for mass deployment of AI in the public sector - and the latest Budget measures are being made without safeguards, writes Professor Alexandra Andhov

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          #nzpol

          libroraptor@mastodon.nzL This user is from outside of this forum
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          @ClareBear that article seems to have been written by someone who doesn't know a lot about AI and is carefully avoiding talking about it. My first encounters with studying AI were in the mid-1990s at that same university mentioned in the article (advertorial!) branding – there are definitely people there who'll know that this writer is bullshitting.

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          • airshipper@cloudisland.nzA This user is from outside of this forum
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            @vik @ClareBear didn't we hear that labour did a deal with microsoft, so all the copilot use is free (for now!)

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            • clarebear@mastodon.nzC This user is from outside of this forum
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              @lightweight @airshipper @vik happy with that Dave 💚

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              • jeremy_pm@mastodon.nzJ jeremy_pm@mastodon.nz

                @moz @ClareBear

                The thing with the Ai bubble is it’s currently losing billions of dollars and only able to keep up the pretence of legitimacy thanks to the large sums of money being poured into it from Gulf State oil profits.

                Those investments have continued due to the obligations of the petrodollar requiring all OPEC oil profits to be invested in either US treasury bonds or the US stock exchange but now as a result of the incredibly dumb and illegal war against Iran those GCC countries are no longer able to maintain their level of investment and are in fact now beginning to divest from US stocks and treasury bonds.

                I suspect the Ai bubble is about to burst.

                debe@mastodon.nzD This user is from outside of this forum
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                @jeremy_pm Yeah, I can't help but think that CoPilot GitHub switching to per-token charging rather than the current low cost subscription on June 1st must be going to be a big step towards the POP.

                @moz @ClareBear

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                • clarebear@mastodon.nzC clarebear@mastodon.nz

                  Before those 8,700 jobs go, the public deserves four things:

                  A complete cost projection from Treasury, including what the AI itself will cost over time.

                  A public register listing every place AI is being used in government.

                  An Office for AI with real power to assess and stop risky projects.

                  A clear answer on which overseas companies our information is being handed to, and on what terms.

                  AI is not a magic wand. It is a contract. New Zealanders are entitled to see the terms before our names are signed to it.

                  Link Preview Image
                  Before we let AI run the public service, we need to know the full impact

                  New Zealand is badly under-prepared for mass deployment of AI in the public sector - and the latest Budget measures are being made without safeguards, writes Professor Alexandra Andhov

                  favicon

                  Newsroom (newsroom.co.nz)

                  #nzpol

                  abt1181@ioc.exchangeA This user is from outside of this forum
                  abt1181@ioc.exchangeA This user is from outside of this forum
                  abt1181@ioc.exchange
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                  @ClareBear Lol like you have a right to question normal implementation of technological advances in the workplace. How entitled 🤣.

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