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  • mekkaokereke@hachyderm.ioM mekkaokereke@hachyderm.io

    RE: https://hachyderm.io/@mekkaokereke/116290338892571761

    🤦🏿‍♂️Actually, nevermind.

    Why is everything like this?

    The author supposedly went on an anti-woke, right-wing podcast to promote the movie while trashing other books and movies that do have a "woke" message or that have inclusive representation? But... why?

    Why was that necessary?

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    @mekkaokereke Oh bollocks! I was looking forward to this one and now I am not gonna bother. What a wanker.

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    • mekkaokereke@hachyderm.ioM mekkaokereke@hachyderm.io

      🤔Now I need to buy two IMAX tickets worth of sci-fi books written by authors that aren't anti-woke, just to put my part of the universe back in balance.

      🤔Actually to properly balance things out, I have to keep reading new sci-fi books until I find one that I can recommend to thousands of people.

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      @mekkaokereke For more recent SciFi, have you read mary robinette kowal?

      I love Julie Cznerneda's Species Imperative trilogy, mainly because a scientist is taken seriously, and then she goes on to save all life in the universe by being a scientist who thinks through things. And yeah, there is a sexy-to-her intergalactic secret agent academic who shows up now and then. What can I say, I love a male character who believes and supports a female character.

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      • mekkaokereke@hachyderm.ioM mekkaokereke@hachyderm.io

        🤔Now I need to buy two IMAX tickets worth of sci-fi books written by authors that aren't anti-woke, just to put my part of the universe back in balance.

        🤔Actually to properly balance things out, I have to keep reading new sci-fi books until I find one that I can recommend to thousands of people.

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        @mekkaokereke Do you know the Binti series by @nnedi ? Big recommendation!

        And so sad to read about this. I watched the Hail Mary movie without knowing anything about the book and author. I mostly liked it, except for the whole "this one average guy is the only one who can save the world" part ^^"

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        • mekkaokereke@hachyderm.ioM mekkaokereke@hachyderm.io

          @ZDL

          But it will cost him money?

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          @mekkaokereke He's hoping the anti-woke crowd brings him more money than the woke crowd will lose him. He's reading the zeitgeist and cynically taking a knee to the fascists and racists (but I repeat myself). He may also be banking on the fact that most of his woke crowd won't hear about this, so losing even less from that camp.

          I didn't say he was right. I'm just highlighting his motivation.

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          • kristinhenry@vis.socialK kristinhenry@vis.social

            @mekkaokereke For more recent SciFi, have you read mary robinette kowal?

            I love Julie Cznerneda's Species Imperative trilogy, mainly because a scientist is taken seriously, and then she goes on to save all life in the universe by being a scientist who thinks through things. And yeah, there is a sexy-to-her intergalactic secret agent academic who shows up now and then. What can I say, I love a male character who believes and supports a female character.

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            @mekkaokereke Ok not sci-fi. But if you like historical stuff, around Bletchly Park...I really loved Rose Code by Kate Quinn.

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            • curlyparakeet@mastodon.onlineC curlyparakeet@mastodon.online

              @PsyChuan @mekkaokereke

              +1 for the Culture series.

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              @CurlyParakeet @PsyChuan

              I've only read Consider Phlebas so far.

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              • mekkaokereke@hachyderm.ioM mekkaokereke@hachyderm.io

                🤔Now I need to buy two IMAX tickets worth of sci-fi books written by authors that aren't anti-woke, just to put my part of the universe back in balance.

                🤔Actually to properly balance things out, I have to keep reading new sci-fi books until I find one that I can recommend to thousands of people.

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                @mekkaokereke if you haven’t read them yet, Malka Olders Centenal Cycle is pretty good @older

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                • s_wilson@mastodon.unoS s_wilson@mastodon.uno

                  @mekkaokereke must they be new?

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                  @s_wilson

                  You're right! They don't have to be new!

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                  • mekkaokereke@hachyderm.ioM mekkaokereke@hachyderm.io

                    @CurlyParakeet @PsyChuan

                    I've only read Consider Phlebas so far.

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                    @mekkaokereke @CurlyParakeet I think you've got the best ahead of you then!

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                    • mekkaokereke@hachyderm.ioM mekkaokereke@hachyderm.io

                      @CurlyParakeet @PsyChuan

                      I've only read Consider Phlebas so far.

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                      @mekkaokereke

                      It’s good, but not my favourite. Player of Games, Excession (❤️ Sleeper Service!) and Surface Detail are my amazing IMO.

                      And, always read the epilogue!!

                      @PsyChuan

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                      • mekkaokereke@hachyderm.ioM mekkaokereke@hachyderm.io

                        @s_wilson

                        You're right! They don't have to be new!

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                        @mekkaokereke @s_wilson In that case, The Left Hand of Darkness by Ursula K. Le Guin (their other books are mostly fantasy) and anything by Octavia E. Butler.

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                        • mekkaokereke@hachyderm.ioM mekkaokereke@hachyderm.io

                          🤔Now I need to buy two IMAX tickets worth of sci-fi books written by authors that aren't anti-woke, just to put my part of the universe back in balance.

                          🤔Actually to properly balance things out, I have to keep reading new sci-fi books until I find one that I can recommend to thousands of people.

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                          @mekkaokereke Underground Airlines by Ben H Winters?
                          Modern era but the US civil war never happened and a (genuine) proposed settlement still in force, US internationally isolated as South Africa was in the 1980s. Protagonist is an escaped save captured and forced to assist the US Marshalls in their (genuine pre civil war era) task of capturing slaves who has escaped to the "free states"

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                          • mekkaokereke@hachyderm.ioM mekkaokereke@hachyderm.io

                            🤔Now I need to buy two IMAX tickets worth of sci-fi books written by authors that aren't anti-woke, just to put my part of the universe back in balance.

                            🤔Actually to properly balance things out, I have to keep reading new sci-fi books until I find one that I can recommend to thousands of people.

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                            @mekkaokereke The entire Vorkosigan series by Lois McMaster Bujold. It started addressing many of the issues we're seeing in the 80s.

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                            • jonnyt@mastodon.me.ukJ jonnyt@mastodon.me.uk

                              @mekkaokereke @s_wilson In that case, The Left Hand of Darkness by Ursula K. Le Guin (their other books are mostly fantasy) and anything by Octavia E. Butler.

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                              @JonnyT @mekkaokereke the dispossessed...
                              What about Cherryh?

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                              • kristinhenry@vis.socialK kristinhenry@vis.social

                                @mekkaokereke Ok not sci-fi. But if you like historical stuff, around Bletchly Park...I really loved Rose Code by Kate Quinn.

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                                @mekkaokereke I find it difficult to understand why so many white-cis-het-men find it so difficult to understand that there are so many amazing people who are not white-cis-het-men

                                And that this diversity is a wonderful thing!

                                I can't imagine such a lonely existence.

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                                • mekkaokereke@hachyderm.ioM mekkaokereke@hachyderm.io

                                  RE: https://hachyderm.io/@mekkaokereke/116290338892571761

                                  🤦🏿‍♂️Actually, nevermind.

                                  Why is everything like this?

                                  The author supposedly went on an anti-woke, right-wing podcast to promote the movie while trashing other books and movies that do have a "woke" message or that have inclusive representation? But... why?

                                  Why was that necessary?

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                                  @mekkaokereke thanks for the heads-up, I had an unread book of his in my ebook library I've now moved to the 'meh' (ie no longer interested in reading) shelf.

                                  Nameless by @Impossible_PhD and The Mune by Sue Dawes are a couple of excellent inclusive sci-fi books. And Becky Chambers' books and Murderbot, but I think most people know that

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                                  • evilpilaf@hachyderm.ioE evilpilaf@hachyderm.io

                                    @mekkaokereke if you haven’t read them yet, Malka Olders Centenal Cycle is pretty good @older

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                                    @evilpilaf

                                    @mekkaokereke @older
                                    Yeah! Absolutely Must Read!

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                                    • jonnyt@mastodon.me.ukJ jonnyt@mastodon.me.uk

                                      @mekkaokereke @s_wilson In that case, The Left Hand of Darkness by Ursula K. Le Guin (their other books are mostly fantasy) and anything by Octavia E. Butler.

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                                      @mekkaokereke @s_wilson (Edited my post in a nod to Le Guin's biggest regret about LH of D, and because I made an assumption I shouldn't have made).

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                                      • mekkaokereke@hachyderm.ioM mekkaokereke@hachyderm.io

                                        RE: https://hachyderm.io/@mekkaokereke/116290338892571761

                                        🤦🏿‍♂️Actually, nevermind.

                                        Why is everything like this?

                                        The author supposedly went on an anti-woke, right-wing podcast to promote the movie while trashing other books and movies that do have a "woke" message or that have inclusive representation? But... why?

                                        Why was that necessary?

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                                        @mekkaokereke@hachyderm.io sci-fi career speedrun [NEW WR] (heinlein%)

                                        i'm kidding ofc I don't think this will affect his career at all. For some reason, right wing/anti-woke grifting on
                                        podcasts specifically just seems to fly under a lot of radars. The amount of people who have no idea that Steven Bartlett is a race-science-indulging incel is staggering considering his podcast is his primary income and that's where he showcases that

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                                        • mekkaokereke@hachyderm.ioM mekkaokereke@hachyderm.io

                                          I'm not saying don't watch the movie or read the book. Do whatever makes you happy.

                                          I'm also not interested in debating how much inclusion is in his stories, whether he realizes it or not.

                                          And I'm not interested in comparing even bigger, "super woke" sci-fi franchises like Star Trek or Star Wars.

                                          I'm just saying that I personally watched the last one (The Martian), and I watched this one (Project Hail Mary), but you can guess if I'm watching the next one.

                                          So many choices in entertainment.

                                          The actions that attract the MAGA customer base will probably alienate me, and vice versa. That's OK!

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                                          @mekkaokereke Oh no. Andy Weir is a dbag? I was going to watch that movie but no longer. Thank you for the thread.

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