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Lately I have been trying to tell manplainers and sea lions what they're doing before blocking them, to give them a shot at apologizing.

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  • andrewgambrill@mastodon.socialA andrewgambrill@mastodon.social

    @sundogplanets What is a sea lion (in this context) 🙂

    sam@chven.usS This user is from outside of this forum
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    just looked it up and found this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sealioning
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    • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

      Lately I have been trying to tell manplainers and sea lions what they're doing before blocking them, to give them a shot at apologizing. But it almost always results in angry dudes saying obnoxious things, not apologizing, and that doesn't make anyone feel better.

      This is just a reminder to myself to block more people.

      abraxas3d@defcon.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
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      @sundogplanets strongly concur. There was this amateur radio dude over at ARISS that barfed up the most amazing sea lion tweets at me, back when Twitter was pretty good. I (very gently) pushed back, explained why the "I'm JuSt AsKiNg QuEsTiOnS yOu ExIsT tO eDuCaTe Me BuT i aLrEaDy MaDe My MiNd Up YoU uNpRoFeSsIoNaL BITCH!!!!" approach was ineffective at best and a deliberate way to power-play/toy with me and waste my time at worst, and he just completely blew up from there. It was ridiculous. It doesn't matter how good a job you do at communicating. That's not why they are there.

      So, after that, nope. No engagement. If you don't see me as a person (women aren't people to these people) then we just cannot speak again. Blocks are one way to ensure that.

      Sure, you can make an effort to reach out and make things right, but sea lions never do. Sexist small-pants piggy-faces will go down with that ship, fronting forever that they are the "good guys", just out here "trying to learn". Because this tactic works. Why? Because women are supposed to be "help meets".

      You know, Helpers. Helping! You're not HELPING if you don't act like a knowledge vending machine and the man has infinite credit. You aren't making it EASY. You're not making me a mental SANDWICH. And you get called names and they dunk on your work and make you pay and fulminate and fester.

      So, yeah. Block away.

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      • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

        Lately I have been trying to tell manplainers and sea lions what they're doing before blocking them, to give them a shot at apologizing. But it almost always results in angry dudes saying obnoxious things, not apologizing, and that doesn't make anyone feel better.

        This is just a reminder to myself to block more people.

        jik@federate.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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        @sundogplanets I try really hard to call out bad behavior in _other_ people's threads because it lands really differently when it comes from someone other than the target, and I think it's important to be an upstander.

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        • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

          Lately I have been trying to tell manplainers and sea lions what they're doing before blocking them, to give them a shot at apologizing. But it almost always results in angry dudes saying obnoxious things, not apologizing, and that doesn't make anyone feel better.

          This is just a reminder to myself to block more people.

          moelassus@mastodon.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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          @sundogplanets I appreciate that you make the effort. I was recently blocked by someone I enjoy reading because of a poor attempt at snark that landed poorly. They immediately blocked me with a curt response. I wish I had been given the chance to clarify myself. Many folks are definitely NOT in the mood these days so I’ve holstered my snark.

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          • capnthommo@c.imC capnthommo@c.im

            @sundogplanets sea lions?

            paul@social.lightlyseared.onlineP This user is from outside of this forum
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            @capnthommo It's a form of trolling that involves endless bad-faith questions.

            Wikipedia has fuller explanation: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sealioning

            @sundogplanets

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            • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

              Lately I have been trying to tell manplainers and sea lions what they're doing before blocking them, to give them a shot at apologizing. But it almost always results in angry dudes saying obnoxious things, not apologizing, and that doesn't make anyone feel better.

              This is just a reminder to myself to block more people.

              bur_d@mastodon.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
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              @sundogplanets I don't understand this post, what are these mapliners and sealions doing and what are they?

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              • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                Lately I have been trying to tell manplainers and sea lions what they're doing before blocking them, to give them a shot at apologizing. But it almost always results in angry dudes saying obnoxious things, not apologizing, and that doesn't make anyone feel better.

                This is just a reminder to myself to block more people.

                angiebaby@mas.toA This user is from outside of this forum
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                @sundogplanets

                Just send them a JPEG of a sealion with its mouth open and a fedora photoshopped on its head and mute them. They're hopeless.

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                • moelassus@mastodon.socialM moelassus@mastodon.social

                  @sundogplanets I appreciate that you make the effort. I was recently blocked by someone I enjoy reading because of a poor attempt at snark that landed poorly. They immediately blocked me with a curt response. I wish I had been given the chance to clarify myself. Many folks are definitely NOT in the mood these days so I’ve holstered my snark.

                  jrp@hub.kliklak.netJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                  @Moe Lassus sorry to sneak in here 🙂 but i believe that pure text chat works even worse in terms of irony, than talking ironically to strangers in rea life. No pun intended 🙂
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                  • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                    Lately I have been trying to tell manplainers and sea lions what they're doing before blocking them, to give them a shot at apologizing. But it almost always results in angry dudes saying obnoxious things, not apologizing, and that doesn't make anyone feel better.

                    This is just a reminder to myself to block more people.

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                    @Prof. Sam Lawler it's a pity, really.
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                    • jrp@hub.kliklak.netJ jrp@hub.kliklak.net
                      @Moe Lassus sorry to sneak in here 🙂 but i believe that pure text chat works even worse in terms of irony, than talking ironically to strangers in rea life. No pun intended 🙂
                      moelassus@mastodon.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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                      @jrp I suspect your right. It’s also possible that I’m just really bad at snark. 🤔

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                      • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                        Lately I have been trying to tell manplainers and sea lions what they're doing before blocking them, to give them a shot at apologizing. But it almost always results in angry dudes saying obnoxious things, not apologizing, and that doesn't make anyone feel better.

                        This is just a reminder to myself to block more people.

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                        @sundogplanets
                        I would try to explain what I'd said, just to get an argument back. I now just block. Life is too short for such "agita".

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                        • fathermcgruder@jorts.horseF fathermcgruder@jorts.horse

                          @knud Mute button underrated.
                          @sundogplanets

                          knud@mastodon.socialK This user is from outside of this forum
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                          @fathermcgruder @sundogplanets

                          Kinda, I want something like "mute+". Literally blocking beyond that post so they don't poison future threads.

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                          • andrewgambrill@mastodon.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
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                            @sam Thanks! Everyday is a school day.

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                            • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                              Lately I have been trying to tell manplainers and sea lions what they're doing before blocking them, to give them a shot at apologizing. But it almost always results in angry dudes saying obnoxious things, not apologizing, and that doesn't make anyone feel better.

                              This is just a reminder to myself to block more people.

                              moving_pictures@metalhead.clubM This user is from outside of this forum
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                              @sundogplanets Familiar with mansplaining but ... Sea Lion? Not heard of that one ... clarify?

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                              • knud@mastodon.socialK knud@mastodon.social

                                @fathermcgruder @sundogplanets

                                Kinda, I want something like "mute+". Literally blocking beyond that post so they don't poison future threads.

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                                @knud The offender can always get a new account and other thread participants can decide for themselves if they want to mute. Besides, everything we post is public anyway. Block button overrated.
                                @sundogplanets

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                                • paul@social.lightlyseared.onlineP paul@social.lightlyseared.online

                                  @capnthommo It's a form of trolling that involves endless bad-faith questions.

                                  Wikipedia has fuller explanation: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sealioning

                                  @sundogplanets

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                                  @Paul @sundogplanets oh yes. I had come across it before but I'd forgotten.thanks

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                                  • bur_d@mastodon.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    @Bumblefish @sundogplanets wasn't aware

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                                    • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                                      Lately I have been trying to tell manplainers and sea lions what they're doing before blocking them, to give them a shot at apologizing. But it almost always results in angry dudes saying obnoxious things, not apologizing, and that doesn't make anyone feel better.

                                      This is just a reminder to myself to block more people.

                                      wtl@mastodon.socialW This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      @sundogplanets 💯

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                                      • capnthommo@c.imC capnthommo@c.im

                                        @sundogplanets sea lions?

                                        hadon@mastodon.socialH This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        @capnthommo @sundogplanets

                                        I'm also learning the term:

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                                        Sealioning - Wikipedia

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                                        (en.wikipedia.org)

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                                          @Bumblefish @sundogplanets would this then be considered mansplaining?

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