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  • M marcin_kras@mastodon.social

    @jon Isn't Chromium dependency a liability in terms of digital sovereignty? I am trying to understand those who argue that Mozilla, by maintaining Gecko, is the last stand against Google's technological monopoly.

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    @marcin_kras @jon Because Chromium is open, if there are parts of it that don’t meet Vivaldi’s needs, it can be changed.

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    • jon@social.vivaldi.netJ jon@social.vivaldi.net

      32 years ago I started working on my first browser, Opera. I left Opera in 2011, but two years later I co-founded Vivaldi. Thus I have been making browsers now for 32 years, with a short break there between 2011 and 2013.

      I have always felt that this work is important and no less today than before as more and more of you see the importance of alternatives to Big Tech.

      Vivaldi is a European company with headquarters in Norway, servers in Iceland and team in Norway, Iceland, across Europe, Japan and a couple in the US.

      We try our best to adapt to your needs. We build powerful browsers, with a lot of flexibility.

      I welcome you to try us out and share with your friends!

      #Windows #Macos #Linux #Android #iOS #TEchnology #EU #Europa #Norway #Iceland #Browser #Vivaldi #BigTech

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      Vivaldi Browser | Powerful, Personal and Private web browser

      It’s a web browser. But fun. It comes with a bunch of clever features built-in. It’s super flexible and does not track you. Get the Vivaldi browser for desktop, mobile, and your car!

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      @jon I'm quite happy with Vivaldi and I use it on the laptop and my 'phone. Thanks for all you do.

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      • jon@social.vivaldi.netJ jon@social.vivaldi.net

        32 years ago I started working on my first browser, Opera. I left Opera in 2011, but two years later I co-founded Vivaldi. Thus I have been making browsers now for 32 years, with a short break there between 2011 and 2013.

        I have always felt that this work is important and no less today than before as more and more of you see the importance of alternatives to Big Tech.

        Vivaldi is a European company with headquarters in Norway, servers in Iceland and team in Norway, Iceland, across Europe, Japan and a couple in the US.

        We try our best to adapt to your needs. We build powerful browsers, with a lot of flexibility.

        I welcome you to try us out and share with your friends!

        #Windows #Macos #Linux #Android #iOS #TEchnology #EU #Europa #Norway #Iceland #Browser #Vivaldi #BigTech

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        Vivaldi Browser | Powerful, Personal and Private web browser

        It’s a web browser. But fun. It comes with a bunch of clever features built-in. It’s super flexible and does not track you. Get the Vivaldi browser for desktop, mobile, and your car!

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        Vivaldi Browser (vivaldi.com)

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        @jon

        For years now, Vivaldi has been my backup browser - the one I use when a site or service works better (or at all) with a Blink-based browser rather than Firefox.

        Firefox's continuing slide into slop, surveillance, and advertising may mean Vivaldi becomes my primary - or only - browser.

        But you know what would speed that up? If Vivaldi launched an experimental version of its browser using Servo as the rendering engine, rather than Blink.

        Anyways... Vivaldi's great, everyone should use it over the other Blink / WebKit browsers.

        #Vivaldi #Blink #Servo #browser

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        • jon@social.vivaldi.netJ jon@social.vivaldi.net

          32 years ago I started working on my first browser, Opera. I left Opera in 2011, but two years later I co-founded Vivaldi. Thus I have been making browsers now for 32 years, with a short break there between 2011 and 2013.

          I have always felt that this work is important and no less today than before as more and more of you see the importance of alternatives to Big Tech.

          Vivaldi is a European company with headquarters in Norway, servers in Iceland and team in Norway, Iceland, across Europe, Japan and a couple in the US.

          We try our best to adapt to your needs. We build powerful browsers, with a lot of flexibility.

          I welcome you to try us out and share with your friends!

          #Windows #Macos #Linux #Android #iOS #TEchnology #EU #Europa #Norway #Iceland #Browser #Vivaldi #BigTech

          Link Preview Image
          Vivaldi Browser | Powerful, Personal and Private web browser

          It’s a web browser. But fun. It comes with a bunch of clever features built-in. It’s super flexible and does not track you. Get the Vivaldi browser for desktop, mobile, and your car!

          favicon

          Vivaldi Browser (vivaldi.com)

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          I have been using Vivaldi for a number of months now and I think it’s great! Thanks for creating such a good tool for us all to use.

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          • jon@social.vivaldi.netJ jon@social.vivaldi.net

            32 years ago I started working on my first browser, Opera. I left Opera in 2011, but two years later I co-founded Vivaldi. Thus I have been making browsers now for 32 years, with a short break there between 2011 and 2013.

            I have always felt that this work is important and no less today than before as more and more of you see the importance of alternatives to Big Tech.

            Vivaldi is a European company with headquarters in Norway, servers in Iceland and team in Norway, Iceland, across Europe, Japan and a couple in the US.

            We try our best to adapt to your needs. We build powerful browsers, with a lot of flexibility.

            I welcome you to try us out and share with your friends!

            #Windows #Macos #Linux #Android #iOS #TEchnology #EU #Europa #Norway #Iceland #Browser #Vivaldi #BigTech

            Link Preview Image
            Vivaldi Browser | Powerful, Personal and Private web browser

            It’s a web browser. But fun. It comes with a bunch of clever features built-in. It’s super flexible and does not track you. Get the Vivaldi browser for desktop, mobile, and your car!

            favicon

            Vivaldi Browser (vivaldi.com)

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            @jon - I have Vivaldi as my secondary browser after Waterfox (a fork of Firefox) on my Mac.
            I like it - though I know I've only tried a fraction of the features on it. So why am I still on Waterfox? No efforts at AI, and I really do like the 'multi-account containers' feature on Waterfox / Firefox - limiting where websites can follow you. Not sure Vivaldi has that.

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            • jon@social.vivaldi.netJ jon@social.vivaldi.net

              32 years ago I started working on my first browser, Opera. I left Opera in 2011, but two years later I co-founded Vivaldi. Thus I have been making browsers now for 32 years, with a short break there between 2011 and 2013.

              I have always felt that this work is important and no less today than before as more and more of you see the importance of alternatives to Big Tech.

              Vivaldi is a European company with headquarters in Norway, servers in Iceland and team in Norway, Iceland, across Europe, Japan and a couple in the US.

              We try our best to adapt to your needs. We build powerful browsers, with a lot of flexibility.

              I welcome you to try us out and share with your friends!

              #Windows #Macos #Linux #Android #iOS #TEchnology #EU #Europa #Norway #Iceland #Browser #Vivaldi #BigTech

              Link Preview Image
              Vivaldi Browser | Powerful, Personal and Private web browser

              It’s a web browser. But fun. It comes with a bunch of clever features built-in. It’s super flexible and does not track you. Get the Vivaldi browser for desktop, mobile, and your car!

              favicon

              Vivaldi Browser (vivaldi.com)

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              @jon I love using Vivaldi and is my preferred browser across my devices. Thank you!!

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              • jon@social.vivaldi.netJ jon@social.vivaldi.net

                32 years ago I started working on my first browser, Opera. I left Opera in 2011, but two years later I co-founded Vivaldi. Thus I have been making browsers now for 32 years, with a short break there between 2011 and 2013.

                I have always felt that this work is important and no less today than before as more and more of you see the importance of alternatives to Big Tech.

                Vivaldi is a European company with headquarters in Norway, servers in Iceland and team in Norway, Iceland, across Europe, Japan and a couple in the US.

                We try our best to adapt to your needs. We build powerful browsers, with a lot of flexibility.

                I welcome you to try us out and share with your friends!

                #Windows #Macos #Linux #Android #iOS #TEchnology #EU #Europa #Norway #Iceland #Browser #Vivaldi #BigTech

                Link Preview Image
                Vivaldi Browser | Powerful, Personal and Private web browser

                It’s a web browser. But fun. It comes with a bunch of clever features built-in. It’s super flexible and does not track you. Get the Vivaldi browser for desktop, mobile, and your car!

                favicon

                Vivaldi Browser (vivaldi.com)

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                wrote last edited by
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                There is no better feeling than the satisfaction of seeing happy users of Vivaldi. There is a reason why I and the rest of the Vivaldi team continue to work hard on building a better browser for all of you!

                It is not always easy. Building a browser across platforms and devices is not trivial to do. Connecting them all together through sync s not trivial either. Making it work well on small and large screens, using different input methods takes a lot of work as well. Having unlimited flexibility is hard as well. This is the reason why others tend not to do it. It is a lot easier to just say that the way you design it is the right way and the user is wrong.

                I know there are then things that some of you would like us to do, that we have not done yet. Generally we have it on our list.
                Running on a different code base is not on our list, though. It is too much work for too little gain. It is better for us to spend resources on improving the one code base we have. The more resources we have, the more we can do. When you tell your friends about Vivaldi, you help us grow and you help us be able to do more.

                Thanks!
                Jon.

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                • jon@social.vivaldi.netJ jon@social.vivaldi.net

                  There is no better feeling than the satisfaction of seeing happy users of Vivaldi. There is a reason why I and the rest of the Vivaldi team continue to work hard on building a better browser for all of you!

                  It is not always easy. Building a browser across platforms and devices is not trivial to do. Connecting them all together through sync s not trivial either. Making it work well on small and large screens, using different input methods takes a lot of work as well. Having unlimited flexibility is hard as well. This is the reason why others tend not to do it. It is a lot easier to just say that the way you design it is the right way and the user is wrong.

                  I know there are then things that some of you would like us to do, that we have not done yet. Generally we have it on our list.
                  Running on a different code base is not on our list, though. It is too much work for too little gain. It is better for us to spend resources on improving the one code base we have. The more resources we have, the more we can do. When you tell your friends about Vivaldi, you help us grow and you help us be able to do more.

                  Thanks!
                  Jon.

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                  @jon You are awesome. Keep it up.

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                  • jon@social.vivaldi.netJ jon@social.vivaldi.net

                    There is no better feeling than the satisfaction of seeing happy users of Vivaldi. There is a reason why I and the rest of the Vivaldi team continue to work hard on building a better browser for all of you!

                    It is not always easy. Building a browser across platforms and devices is not trivial to do. Connecting them all together through sync s not trivial either. Making it work well on small and large screens, using different input methods takes a lot of work as well. Having unlimited flexibility is hard as well. This is the reason why others tend not to do it. It is a lot easier to just say that the way you design it is the right way and the user is wrong.

                    I know there are then things that some of you would like us to do, that we have not done yet. Generally we have it on our list.
                    Running on a different code base is not on our list, though. It is too much work for too little gain. It is better for us to spend resources on improving the one code base we have. The more resources we have, the more we can do. When you tell your friends about Vivaldi, you help us grow and you help us be able to do more.

                    Thanks!
                    Jon.

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                    @jon I’m a happy Vivaldi user. Thank you very much for all your hard work.

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                    • jon@social.vivaldi.netJ jon@social.vivaldi.net

                      There is no better feeling than the satisfaction of seeing happy users of Vivaldi. There is a reason why I and the rest of the Vivaldi team continue to work hard on building a better browser for all of you!

                      It is not always easy. Building a browser across platforms and devices is not trivial to do. Connecting them all together through sync s not trivial either. Making it work well on small and large screens, using different input methods takes a lot of work as well. Having unlimited flexibility is hard as well. This is the reason why others tend not to do it. It is a lot easier to just say that the way you design it is the right way and the user is wrong.

                      I know there are then things that some of you would like us to do, that we have not done yet. Generally we have it on our list.
                      Running on a different code base is not on our list, though. It is too much work for too little gain. It is better for us to spend resources on improving the one code base we have. The more resources we have, the more we can do. When you tell your friends about Vivaldi, you help us grow and you help us be able to do more.

                      Thanks!
                      Jon.

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                      @jon

                      You may get some hate for it, because it is impossible to please everyone, and those who try often end up pleasing no one.

                      That said, stay with Chromium / Blink.

                      At the moment, today, Apple's WebKit has more of a market share than Mozilla's Gecko, which continues to lose ground. And whether people like it or not, Chromium / Blink is the current world stanard.

                      It is what people picked, and continue to use, and rely upon. It works, and it works well.

                      Yes, Google is an evil company. You've point that fact out, and everyone who will object will happily point that out too. But people made Chromium / Blink the majority. And until that changes, sticking around with what works makes sense.

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                      • jon@social.vivaldi.netJ jon@social.vivaldi.net

                        32 years ago I started working on my first browser, Opera. I left Opera in 2011, but two years later I co-founded Vivaldi. Thus I have been making browsers now for 32 years, with a short break there between 2011 and 2013.

                        I have always felt that this work is important and no less today than before as more and more of you see the importance of alternatives to Big Tech.

                        Vivaldi is a European company with headquarters in Norway, servers in Iceland and team in Norway, Iceland, across Europe, Japan and a couple in the US.

                        We try our best to adapt to your needs. We build powerful browsers, with a lot of flexibility.

                        I welcome you to try us out and share with your friends!

                        #Windows #Macos #Linux #Android #iOS #TEchnology #EU #Europa #Norway #Iceland #Browser #Vivaldi #BigTech

                        Link Preview Image
                        Vivaldi Browser | Powerful, Personal and Private web browser

                        It’s a web browser. But fun. It comes with a bunch of clever features built-in. It’s super flexible and does not track you. Get the Vivaldi browser for desktop, mobile, and your car!

                        favicon

                        Vivaldi Browser (vivaldi.com)

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                        @jon I find it difficult to explain to people that the real Opera Browser is now the Vivaldi Browser. I recommend your browser to people who are stuck on Chrome and other variants.

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                        • lisp_1@social.vivaldi.netL lisp_1@social.vivaldi.net

                          @jon I find it difficult to explain to people that the real Opera Browser is now the Vivaldi Browser. I recommend your browser to people who are stuck on Chrome and other variants.

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                          @lisp_1 , that is understood. You kind of have to know the history to understand that.Opera went into a very different direction after I left and that is really the reason I felt Vivaldi was needed. After the fact, there have been very many reasons why are needed and it seems like the need is increasing each day.

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                          • netscapenavigator@social.vivaldi.netN netscapenavigator@social.vivaldi.net

                            @jon

                            You may get some hate for it, because it is impossible to please everyone, and those who try often end up pleasing no one.

                            That said, stay with Chromium / Blink.

                            At the moment, today, Apple's WebKit has more of a market share than Mozilla's Gecko, which continues to lose ground. And whether people like it or not, Chromium / Blink is the current world stanard.

                            It is what people picked, and continue to use, and rely upon. It works, and it works well.

                            Yes, Google is an evil company. You've point that fact out, and everyone who will object will happily point that out too. But people made Chromium / Blink the majority. And until that changes, sticking around with what works makes sense.

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                            @NetscapeNavigator , yes, I think we can make more positive change by influencing Chromium at this time. The more resources we have, the more we can influence. We are already influencing most other browsers as they look our way for ideas.

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                            • jon@social.vivaldi.netJ jon@social.vivaldi.net

                              There is no better feeling than the satisfaction of seeing happy users of Vivaldi. There is a reason why I and the rest of the Vivaldi team continue to work hard on building a better browser for all of you!

                              It is not always easy. Building a browser across platforms and devices is not trivial to do. Connecting them all together through sync s not trivial either. Making it work well on small and large screens, using different input methods takes a lot of work as well. Having unlimited flexibility is hard as well. This is the reason why others tend not to do it. It is a lot easier to just say that the way you design it is the right way and the user is wrong.

                              I know there are then things that some of you would like us to do, that we have not done yet. Generally we have it on our list.
                              Running on a different code base is not on our list, though. It is too much work for too little gain. It is better for us to spend resources on improving the one code base we have. The more resources we have, the more we can do. When you tell your friends about Vivaldi, you help us grow and you help us be able to do more.

                              Thanks!
                              Jon.

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                              @jon have you looked at Servo as the possible engine Vivaldi could run on?

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                              • jon@social.vivaldi.netJ jon@social.vivaldi.net

                                32 years ago I started working on my first browser, Opera. I left Opera in 2011, but two years later I co-founded Vivaldi. Thus I have been making browsers now for 32 years, with a short break there between 2011 and 2013.

                                I have always felt that this work is important and no less today than before as more and more of you see the importance of alternatives to Big Tech.

                                Vivaldi is a European company with headquarters in Norway, servers in Iceland and team in Norway, Iceland, across Europe, Japan and a couple in the US.

                                We try our best to adapt to your needs. We build powerful browsers, with a lot of flexibility.

                                I welcome you to try us out and share with your friends!

                                #Windows #Macos #Linux #Android #iOS #TEchnology #EU #Europa #Norway #Iceland #Browser #Vivaldi #BigTech

                                Link Preview Image
                                Vivaldi Browser | Powerful, Personal and Private web browser

                                It’s a web browser. But fun. It comes with a bunch of clever features built-in. It’s super flexible and does not track you. Get the Vivaldi browser for desktop, mobile, and your car!

                                favicon

                                Vivaldi Browser (vivaldi.com)

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                                @jon Thank you for your work. Vivaldi is my preferred browser 😍

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                                • jon@social.vivaldi.netJ jon@social.vivaldi.net

                                  There is no better feeling than the satisfaction of seeing happy users of Vivaldi. There is a reason why I and the rest of the Vivaldi team continue to work hard on building a better browser for all of you!

                                  It is not always easy. Building a browser across platforms and devices is not trivial to do. Connecting them all together through sync s not trivial either. Making it work well on small and large screens, using different input methods takes a lot of work as well. Having unlimited flexibility is hard as well. This is the reason why others tend not to do it. It is a lot easier to just say that the way you design it is the right way and the user is wrong.

                                  I know there are then things that some of you would like us to do, that we have not done yet. Generally we have it on our list.
                                  Running on a different code base is not on our list, though. It is too much work for too little gain. It is better for us to spend resources on improving the one code base we have. The more resources we have, the more we can do. When you tell your friends about Vivaldi, you help us grow and you help us be able to do more.

                                  Thanks!
                                  Jon.

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                                  @jon thank you and the vivaldi team for making and maintaining my favorite browser.

                                  any chance you have anyone working on anti-fingerprinting?

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                                  • jon@social.vivaldi.netJ jon@social.vivaldi.net

                                    32 years ago I started working on my first browser, Opera. I left Opera in 2011, but two years later I co-founded Vivaldi. Thus I have been making browsers now for 32 years, with a short break there between 2011 and 2013.

                                    I have always felt that this work is important and no less today than before as more and more of you see the importance of alternatives to Big Tech.

                                    Vivaldi is a European company with headquarters in Norway, servers in Iceland and team in Norway, Iceland, across Europe, Japan and a couple in the US.

                                    We try our best to adapt to your needs. We build powerful browsers, with a lot of flexibility.

                                    I welcome you to try us out and share with your friends!

                                    #Windows #Macos #Linux #Android #iOS #TEchnology #EU #Europa #Norway #Iceland #Browser #Vivaldi #BigTech

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                                    It’s a web browser. But fun. It comes with a bunch of clever features built-in. It’s super flexible and does not track you. Get the Vivaldi browser for desktop, mobile, and your car!

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                                    @jon I switched from Opera 12 directly to Vivaldi, because unlike ChrOpera the mouse gestures worked.

                                    Unfortunately, the address bar has been badly broken for the past year, sending random pasted addresses to search instead (VB-121860).

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                                    • catweazle@social.vivaldi.netC catweazle@social.vivaldi.net

                                      @LupinoArts @alaknar @jon, don't confuse it, Mozilla without Google would not longer exist, independent that it isn't possible to switch the engine without to develope the browser from scratch, less for a small team like Vivaldi.

                                      All 3 current engines are from big US tech companies, apart of some irrelevant forks. The engine is by far the most complex part of an browser, reason because there isn't any new engine since more than 20 years. Ther is one, Ladybird, which try to release a browser with an independent engine since several years now, until today not even an alpha version, they will end between, IMHO, the list of >70 already abandoned and discontinued browsers.

                                      The only possibility is that an european company fork and maintane the Chromium engine, maybe KDE? At least Blink/Chromium is a fork of their KHTML.

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                                      @Catweazle as i understand, google pays Mozilla to be their default search engine, and that is how they fund development of their render engine. But the engine itself is independent from google's code, while Chromium is developed by Google directly. My point is that Gecko could exist without Google (if Mozilla found another source of income), while Chromium does not. @alaknar @jon

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                                      • jon@social.vivaldi.netJ jon@social.vivaldi.net

                                        32 years ago I started working on my first browser, Opera. I left Opera in 2011, but two years later I co-founded Vivaldi. Thus I have been making browsers now for 32 years, with a short break there between 2011 and 2013.

                                        I have always felt that this work is important and no less today than before as more and more of you see the importance of alternatives to Big Tech.

                                        Vivaldi is a European company with headquarters in Norway, servers in Iceland and team in Norway, Iceland, across Europe, Japan and a couple in the US.

                                        We try our best to adapt to your needs. We build powerful browsers, with a lot of flexibility.

                                        I welcome you to try us out and share with your friends!

                                        #Windows #Macos #Linux #Android #iOS #TEchnology #EU #Europa #Norway #Iceland #Browser #Vivaldi #BigTech

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                                        @jon I used Opera in the 2000s, then abandoned it when Opera ASA became "something else." Vivaldi was a discovery a few years ago, an extraordinary one. Of course, these are no longer the days of Webkit and extreme adherence to Web standards, but all the features, shortcuts, and gestures of Opera are in the Vivaldi philosophy. My default browser without any if, any but 🙂

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                                        • jon@social.vivaldi.netJ jon@social.vivaldi.net

                                          32 years ago I started working on my first browser, Opera. I left Opera in 2011, but two years later I co-founded Vivaldi. Thus I have been making browsers now for 32 years, with a short break there between 2011 and 2013.

                                          I have always felt that this work is important and no less today than before as more and more of you see the importance of alternatives to Big Tech.

                                          Vivaldi is a European company with headquarters in Norway, servers in Iceland and team in Norway, Iceland, across Europe, Japan and a couple in the US.

                                          We try our best to adapt to your needs. We build powerful browsers, with a lot of flexibility.

                                          I welcome you to try us out and share with your friends!

                                          #Windows #Macos #Linux #Android #iOS #TEchnology #EU #Europa #Norway #Iceland #Browser #Vivaldi #BigTech

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                                          Vivaldi Browser | Powerful, Personal and Private web browser

                                          It’s a web browser. But fun. It comes with a bunch of clever features built-in. It’s super flexible and does not track you. Get the Vivaldi browser for desktop, mobile, and your car!

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                                          Vivaldi Browser (vivaldi.com)

                                          pl@cosocial.caP This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          @jon move away from Chrome and I'll try. The only reason to support a browser is to support diversity in the web and avoid a(nother) Google monopoly. As it is now, you're just another flavour of a Google drink.

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