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  • liaizon@social.wake.stL liaizon@social.wake.st

    @julian @evan @Bonfire @fedify

    Hey @benpate, this is all the proof you need that Emissary needs an account of its own!

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    @liaizon

    Everything on the table:

    I should do this, but have been waiting because I *really* want to self-host the main #Emissary and #Bandwagon accounts on my own software.

    Right now, Emissary is a great PUBLISHER and READER, but it does a poor job with DMs. So I couldn’t really use Emissary to support questions like this one.

    It’s been on my roadmap for a while, and it’s why I’m excited to build #e2ee DMs, too.

    But I do plan to launch these as soon as I have a good solution for DMs.

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      @liaizon

      Everything on the table:

      I should do this, but have been waiting because I *really* want to self-host the main #Emissary and #Bandwagon accounts on my own software.

      Right now, Emissary is a great PUBLISHER and READER, but it does a poor job with DMs. So I couldn’t really use Emissary to support questions like this one.

      It’s been on my roadmap for a while, and it’s why I’m excited to build #e2ee DMs, too.

      But I do plan to launch these as soon as I have a good solution for DMs.

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      @benpate I think projects dogfooding their own software is super important but I can also see it hindering some fediverse projects at the same time. In a nod to something Evan said to you and me and Hong while we were at FOSDEM: you could use Hollo for your projects account and get @hongminhee to use Emmisary for one of their projects and then you both could push the dogfood towards eachother

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      • benpate@mastodon.socialB benpate@mastodon.social

        @liaizon

        Everything on the table:

        I should do this, but have been waiting because I *really* want to self-host the main #Emissary and #Bandwagon accounts on my own software.

        Right now, Emissary is a great PUBLISHER and READER, but it does a poor job with DMs. So I couldn’t really use Emissary to support questions like this one.

        It’s been on my roadmap for a while, and it’s why I’m excited to build #e2ee DMs, too.

        But I do plan to launch these as soon as I have a good solution for DMs.

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        fwiw @benpate@mastodon.social I had the same thoughts go through my head. I literally had no concept of reduced visibility content in NodeBB, so trying to find a parallel was hard.

        In the end I launched without support for non-public content and I'll always wonder what I missed out on 😅

        Then one night randomly I had a brainwave that reduced visibility content mapped more or less to NodeBB chats, and that was that.

        @liaizon@social.wake.st

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        • julian@activitypub.spaceJ julian@activitypub.space

          fwiw @benpate@mastodon.social I had the same thoughts go through my head. I literally had no concept of reduced visibility content in NodeBB, so trying to find a parallel was hard.

          In the end I launched without support for non-public content and I'll always wonder what I missed out on 😅

          Then one night randomly I had a brainwave that reduced visibility content mapped more or less to NodeBB chats, and that was that.

          @liaizon@social.wake.st

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          Yes, that makes a lot of sense. In my case think of Emissaey as a super charged RSS reader and you’re half way there.

          So DMs work great if you’re someone I already follow (like an RSS news source). But it actively discards messages from unknown senders. That’s great for limiting spam and trolls, but a non-starter for supporting real DMs.

          @julian @liaizon

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          • julian@activitypub.spaceJ julian@activitypub.space

            fwiw @benpate@mastodon.social I had the same thoughts go through my head. I literally had no concept of reduced visibility content in NodeBB, so trying to find a parallel was hard.

            In the end I launched without support for non-public content and I'll always wonder what I missed out on 😅

            Then one night randomly I had a brainwave that reduced visibility content mapped more or less to NodeBB chats, and that was that.

            @liaizon@social.wake.st

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            Right now, I’m👌🏻 this close to making it work correctly, so I need to see it through.

            If Emissary becomes the platform for publishers (music, art, blogs) then DMs will need to work differently - almost like a CRM, where publishers can field questions and keep track of which “tickets” are still open.

            I have some designs for this already, and will be working that into a unified messenger.

            I just need a little more time 😭

            @julian @liaizon

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            • julian@activitypub.spaceJ julian@activitypub.space

              It really speaks to the audience a bit that every time I attend a fediverse focused conference the phrase "seize the means of production" always gets said at some point 😏 (not usually in presentation, mind you)

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              @julian Disgust: using the phrase "seize the means of production" because that verb implies taking without any return, compensation, consideration.

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                @julian @cwebber if the tools is enjoyable to use, people will come. At first there was maybe a lack of people issue but twitter solved that

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                • django@social.coopD django@social.coop

                  Having some FOMO for FediMTL since it’s in my hometown.

                  But appreciate @julian live-tooting the event!

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                  @django@social.coop were you in Montreal? Next time we should plan a meet up!

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                    @julian I wasn't (based in Edmonton now). Meet up would be great, hope I can time my next visit with one of Foulab's monthly fediverse nights !

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