Google has news on what you will need to do for still being able to sideload apps:

[computersaysno@digitalcourage.social]

@grote the argument is nice:

"57% of surveyed adults experienced a scam in the past year, resulting in a global consumer loss of $442 billion"

But the real question then is: How much scam and loss is due to malicious side loaded apps?

[mo@mastodon.ml]

@grote and then

"anonymous statistics shows almost no one using «advanced flow» so we're removing it!"

[retrosponge@kind.social]

@grote I will jump through whatever hoops Google fucking ask for out of sheer spite at this point.

[kepi@mamutovo.cz]

@grote I suppose you forgot, that you have to do this only during full moon?

[neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.uk]

@grote And this is the *starting position*.

[bubu@chaos.social]

@grote @TimWardCam maybe it's time to revive the device owner privileged extension at that point .

[egoldblatt@gardenstate.social]

@grote This is utter madness. I don't know how we can push back as users, but we must.

[agowa338@chaos.social]

@grote

Tbh, considering that border agents also sideload their spyware and then wipe it off when you have to hand them your phone unlocked and they vanish with it for a few minutes this is probably a good thing though.

Also you've only to go through it once.

The only question I have is if they'll allow Apps to query this, if they do then that'll be the bigger issue as then almost all anti-cheat, anti-tamper, and "root detection" frameworks will add it instantly...

[progo@boop.city]

@grote "wait a day" -- PITA. I understand where they're coming from, in terms of CYA and psychology, but that feels like when telcos mess around with you and refuse to carrier-unlock phones you own.

[ar1@mastodon.social]

@grote I don't want to give my biometric data to the Fuckheads. Let's go for harmony OS. It's better anyway as far as I can tell.

[agowa338@chaos.social]

@egoldblatt @grote

Sending a DMA complaint to the EU commission for example.

[faduda@mastodon.ie]

@grote confirm with biometrics...?

[ar1@mastodon.social]

@grote or any de-googelized OS.

[jon_bon@toot.cat]

@grote

Google lingo: "power users". Jeez... I'm most definitely not a "power user", I just want to download apps from @fdroidorg , @IzzyOnDroidOrg , @accrescent . It's not something complicated for a minority, downloading from repositories other than Google Play Store is a choice everyday users can make.

[navi@catcatnya.com]

@grote WAIT ONE DAY??????? WTF

[mndflayr@metalhead.club]

@lkundrak @grote

I double checked the list.
But sadly, it does not involve any wanking.

[navi@catcatnya.com]

@grote That's WORSE than Apple at this point

[rdecartes@mastodon.social]

@grote Non "latus onus" sed "installatio" vocatur.

[lumi@snug.moe]

@grote what the fuck. none of this is at all acceptable

let people install whatever apps they want, without any fearmongering

it's supposed to be their device ​​

[progo@boop.city]

@grote
> the few apps that still have developers motivated to develop for a user-base willing to put up with this

I look at it this way:

One market of SoCs that support a single bodged together Linux kernel fork. Two separate but related app ecosystems. The people that are fine with Google Play Android are subsidizing the cost of my hardware.