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  • jaseg@chaos.socialJ jaseg@chaos.social

    @pgcd @kepeken to me that also read as LLM slop, and not just because of the short sentences.

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    @jaseg @pgcd @kepeken
    Slop has no sunbtance. This does.

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    • kepeken@mastodon.gamedev.placeK This user is from outside of this forum
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      @rockgecko_dev @dzwiedziu @jaseg @pgcd good luck finding a control group sample of human-written "linked in" posts...

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      • jaseg@chaos.socialJ jaseg@chaos.social

        @siderea lol

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        @jaseg @siderea@universeodon.com this, is always the greatest response to a troll. (This person is a therapist. 😬)

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        • brettm@swarm.coiloptic.orgB This user is from outside of this forum
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          #116
          CC: @dzwiedziu@mastodon.social @jaseg@chaos.social @kepeken@mastodon.gamedev.place @pgcd@mastodon.online @rockgecko_dev@aus.social

          An AI detector tool recently decided that Mary Shelley's Frankenstein was written by AI

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          • beyondmachines1@infosec.exchangeB beyondmachines1@infosec.exchange

            You gave a stranger with no soul and no skin in the game the keys to everything you own.

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            @beyondmachines1 And it's not a usual subscription like for Netflix.
            One way or the other it is, or will become, pay-per-use.
            The AI providers have nothing to give away for free in long-term.

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            • dzwiedziu@mastodon.socialD This user is from outside of this forum
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              #118

              @hazelnoot
              Worse, they're also β€œAI” \s

              @rockgecko_dev @jaseg @kepeken @pgcd

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              • wesdym@mastodon.socialW wesdym@mastodon.social

                @fightscore There are things it's proven very good at, mostly things it's already been doing for some years. Protein-folding, for example.

                At the risk of discomforting some people, a good way to think about it is that AI tends to be good at things that autistic people are -- monotonous scanning, counting, etc. -- but has essentially perfect memory compared to humans, and far more powerful computational capacity. So it's good at things that require those tasks.

                But not most other stuff.

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                @wesdym @fightscore what you describe is computing, not AI.

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                • benaveling@infosec.exchangeB benaveling@infosec.exchange

                  The advantage is that the machine always tells you that you are brilliant.
                  @nachtet @beyondmachines1

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                  @BenAveling @beyondmachines1 okay, where do I sign up 🀑

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                  • brettm@swarm.coiloptic.orgB This user is from outside of this forum
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                    CC: @dzwiedziu@mastodon.social @jaseg@chaos.social @kepeken@mastodon.gamedev.place @pgcd@mastodon.online @rockgecko_dev@aus.social

                    No, that is not "debunked." All it shows that when the second person did it those AI agent found it to be written by human. That bears no relationship to what was found when the first person did it. Maybe the first person made the whole thing up. Maybe someone at the AI company saw the post and added some exception to stop their LLM looking useless. Maybe the LLM ingeted more data in the meantime and got better at predicting. I don't know. And you don't know either. Since neither of us know, nothing got debunked.


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                    • beyondmachines1@infosec.exchangeB beyondmachines1@infosec.exchange

                      You gave a stranger with no soul and no skin in the game the keys to everything you own.

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                      @beyondmachines1 https://nitter.net/i/status/2059637607403831732

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                      • alci@pouet.chapril.orgA alci@pouet.chapril.org

                        @wesdym @fightscore what you describe is computing, not AI.

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                        @alci What the fuck do you think AI is?

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                        • curtadams@urbanists.socialC curtadams@urbanists.social

                          @pafurijaz @beyondmachines1 The way AI works, if you have a trade secret it has processed and somebody asks that AI a question related to your secret, it's going to barf up your secret - and the person questioning won't even know they're in violation.

                          Even worse, if the AI firm goes belly-up, all their scraped data will be part of the assets up for bid.

                          So, two different ways of near-guaranteed exposure.

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                          @CurtAdams @beyondmachines1 In fact, everything around artificial intelligence has a lot of dark areas with disastrous consequences.

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                          • iakobsdesamos@xarxa.cloudI iakobsdesamos@xarxa.cloud

                            @fh0 @toriver @fightscore @beyondmachines1 and finding that bug is worth all the fucking misery that it brings? I'm so fed up with this argument, things don't exist in a void and magnitude matters. Please, use your brains and stop embarrassing yourselves before you use that goddamn argument again. Please.

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                            @iakobsdesamos @fh0 @toriver @beyondmachines1 AI is just a tool, with abilities as diverse as people. It is still in infancy, but there is hope it would be better, yes? At least there are improvements year on year.
                            But I would like some insight why all these hate towards it. It seems to me that the debate is not whether the thing is half-full or half-empty, but borders on whether or not the thing will somehow cause a cataclysm by itself. (Hoping it wont πŸ™πŸ˜)
                            A deep breath might calm us down. πŸ™‚β€β†•οΈ

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                            • beyondmachines1@infosec.exchangeB beyondmachines1@infosec.exchange

                              You gave a stranger with no soul and no skin in the game the keys to everything you own.

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                              @beyondmachines1 Lovely πŸ€—

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                              • beyondmachines1@infosec.exchangeB beyondmachines1@infosec.exchange

                                You gave a stranger with no soul and no skin in the game the keys to everything you own.

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                                @beyondmachines1 Who could have seen that coming? /s

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                                • wesdym@mastodon.socialW wesdym@mastodon.social

                                  @alci What the fuck do you think AI is?

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                                  @wesdym all squares are rectangles, not every rectangle is a square.

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                                  • alci@pouet.chapril.orgA alci@pouet.chapril.org

                                    @wesdym all squares are rectangles, not every rectangle is a square.

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                                    @alci Um.. okay.

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                                    • wesdym@mastodon.socialW wesdym@mastodon.social

                                      @alci Um.. okay.

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                                      @wesdym what I really meant is that you can do computing with deterministic algorithms, that are more efficient from an energy point of view, do not need hyperscaling, are not owned by a few megacorp with doubtful political goals, and not built by stealing commons and others work. And that don't impair the ability of future generation to train the neuronal network they should train (between their ears).

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                                      • alci@pouet.chapril.orgA alci@pouet.chapril.org

                                        @wesdym what I really meant is that you can do computing with deterministic algorithms, that are more efficient from an energy point of view, do not need hyperscaling, are not owned by a few megacorp with doubtful political goals, and not built by stealing commons and others work. And that don't impair the ability of future generation to train the neuronal network they should train (between their ears).

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                                        @alci You can't even write a simple post like a sober, mature, educated grown-up. I'm not really interested in anything you have to say. I tried to hint at that, but you just won't quit.

                                        So please, get lost already. I'll make it easy for you.

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                                        • beyondmachines1@infosec.exchangeB beyondmachines1@infosec.exchange

                                          You gave a stranger with no soul and no skin in the game the keys to everything you own.

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                                          @beyondmachines1 this text is written by AI, too.

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