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You gave a stranger with no soul and no skin in the game the keys to everything you own.

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  • beyondmachines1@infosec.exchangeB beyondmachines1@infosec.exchange

    You gave a stranger with no soul and no skin in the game the keys to everything you own.

    pafurijaz@mastodon.socialP This user is from outside of this forum
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    @beyondmachines1 The worst part of it all is the access to your work and patents, basically you risk finding someone making the exact same things, because you've already fed in, tweaked, and fixed every mistake by training an AI, and you even paid to do it. At least with an employee you could drag him to court if he spilled your confidential info and patents, on top of putting him on bread and water if he screwed up the job, and whipping him when he wasn't working. πŸ˜‚

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    • beyondmachines1@infosec.exchangeB beyondmachines1@infosec.exchange

      You gave a stranger with no soul and no skin in the game the keys to everything you own.

      blf_tpe@phpc.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
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      @beyondmachines1 @_elena AI is just a tool! For my company I use codex one-time to write python automation scripts on the dev database, then scripts can run by themselves in prod and ai doesn’t access data. A small local agent with Hermes Agent tracks errors and problems. The cost is minimum (20usd/month), maintenance is straightforward, local ai runs from a base Mac mini (lol). We save lots of time that can be reemployed elsewhere.

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      • pafurijaz@mastodon.socialP pafurijaz@mastodon.social

        @beyondmachines1 The worst part of it all is the access to your work and patents, basically you risk finding someone making the exact same things, because you've already fed in, tweaked, and fixed every mistake by training an AI, and you even paid to do it. At least with an employee you could drag him to court if he spilled your confidential info and patents, on top of putting him on bread and water if he screwed up the job, and whipping him when he wasn't working. πŸ˜‚

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        @pafurijaz @beyondmachines1 The way AI works, if you have a trade secret it has processed and somebody asks that AI a question related to your secret, it's going to barf up your secret - and the person questioning won't even know they're in violation.

        Even worse, if the AI firm goes belly-up, all their scraped data will be part of the assets up for bid.

        So, two different ways of near-guaranteed exposure.

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        • jaseg@chaos.socialJ jaseg@chaos.social

          @pgcd @kepeken to me that also read as LLM slop, and not just because of the short sentences.

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          @jaseg @pgcd @kepeken
          Slop has no sunbtance. This does.

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          • kepeken@mastodon.gamedev.placeK This user is from outside of this forum
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            @rockgecko_dev @dzwiedziu @jaseg @pgcd good luck finding a control group sample of human-written "linked in" posts...

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            • jaseg@chaos.socialJ jaseg@chaos.social

              @siderea lol

              drsuzanne@disabled.socialD This user is from outside of this forum
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              @jaseg @siderea@universeodon.com this, is always the greatest response to a troll. (This person is a therapist. 😬)

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              • brettm@swarm.coiloptic.orgB This user is from outside of this forum
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                CC: @dzwiedziu@mastodon.social @jaseg@chaos.social @kepeken@mastodon.gamedev.place @pgcd@mastodon.online @rockgecko_dev@aus.social

                An AI detector tool recently decided that Mary Shelley's Frankenstein was written by AI

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                • beyondmachines1@infosec.exchangeB beyondmachines1@infosec.exchange

                  You gave a stranger with no soul and no skin in the game the keys to everything you own.

                  sebastiansolidwork@mastodon.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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                  @beyondmachines1 And it's not a usual subscription like for Netflix.
                  One way or the other it is, or will become, pay-per-use.
                  The AI providers have nothing to give away for free in long-term.

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                  • dzwiedziu@mastodon.socialD This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #118

                    @hazelnoot
                    Worse, they're also β€œAI” \s

                    @rockgecko_dev @jaseg @kepeken @pgcd

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                    • wesdym@mastodon.socialW wesdym@mastodon.social

                      @fightscore There are things it's proven very good at, mostly things it's already been doing for some years. Protein-folding, for example.

                      At the risk of discomforting some people, a good way to think about it is that AI tends to be good at things that autistic people are -- monotonous scanning, counting, etc. -- but has essentially perfect memory compared to humans, and far more powerful computational capacity. So it's good at things that require those tasks.

                      But not most other stuff.

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                      @wesdym @fightscore what you describe is computing, not AI.

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                      • benaveling@infosec.exchangeB benaveling@infosec.exchange

                        The advantage is that the machine always tells you that you are brilliant.
                        @nachtet @beyondmachines1

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                        @BenAveling @beyondmachines1 okay, where do I sign up 🀑

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                        • brettm@swarm.coiloptic.orgB This user is from outside of this forum
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                          CC: @dzwiedziu@mastodon.social @jaseg@chaos.social @kepeken@mastodon.gamedev.place @pgcd@mastodon.online @rockgecko_dev@aus.social

                          No, that is not "debunked." All it shows that when the second person did it those AI agent found it to be written by human. That bears no relationship to what was found when the first person did it. Maybe the first person made the whole thing up. Maybe someone at the AI company saw the post and added some exception to stop their LLM looking useless. Maybe the LLM ingeted more data in the meantime and got better at predicting. I don't know. And you don't know either. Since neither of us know, nothing got debunked.


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                          • beyondmachines1@infosec.exchangeB beyondmachines1@infosec.exchange

                            You gave a stranger with no soul and no skin in the game the keys to everything you own.

                            wiert@mastodon.socialW This user is from outside of this forum
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                            @beyondmachines1 https://nitter.net/i/status/2059637607403831732

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                            • alci@pouet.chapril.orgA alci@pouet.chapril.org

                              @wesdym @fightscore what you describe is computing, not AI.

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                              @alci What the fuck do you think AI is?

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                              • curtadams@urbanists.socialC curtadams@urbanists.social

                                @pafurijaz @beyondmachines1 The way AI works, if you have a trade secret it has processed and somebody asks that AI a question related to your secret, it's going to barf up your secret - and the person questioning won't even know they're in violation.

                                Even worse, if the AI firm goes belly-up, all their scraped data will be part of the assets up for bid.

                                So, two different ways of near-guaranteed exposure.

                                pafurijaz@mastodon.socialP This user is from outside of this forum
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                                @CurtAdams @beyondmachines1 In fact, everything around artificial intelligence has a lot of dark areas with disastrous consequences.

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                                • iakobsdesamos@xarxa.cloudI iakobsdesamos@xarxa.cloud

                                  @fh0 @toriver @fightscore @beyondmachines1 and finding that bug is worth all the fucking misery that it brings? I'm so fed up with this argument, things don't exist in a void and magnitude matters. Please, use your brains and stop embarrassing yourselves before you use that goddamn argument again. Please.

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                                  @iakobsdesamos @fh0 @toriver @beyondmachines1 AI is just a tool, with abilities as diverse as people. It is still in infancy, but there is hope it would be better, yes? At least there are improvements year on year.
                                  But I would like some insight why all these hate towards it. It seems to me that the debate is not whether the thing is half-full or half-empty, but borders on whether or not the thing will somehow cause a cataclysm by itself. (Hoping it wont πŸ™πŸ˜)
                                  A deep breath might calm us down. πŸ™‚β€β†•οΈ

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                                  • beyondmachines1@infosec.exchangeB beyondmachines1@infosec.exchange

                                    You gave a stranger with no soul and no skin in the game the keys to everything you own.

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                                    @beyondmachines1 Lovely πŸ€—

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                                    • beyondmachines1@infosec.exchangeB beyondmachines1@infosec.exchange

                                      You gave a stranger with no soul and no skin in the game the keys to everything you own.

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                                      @beyondmachines1 Who could have seen that coming? /s

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                                      • wesdym@mastodon.socialW wesdym@mastodon.social

                                        @alci What the fuck do you think AI is?

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                                        @wesdym all squares are rectangles, not every rectangle is a square.

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                                        • alci@pouet.chapril.orgA alci@pouet.chapril.org

                                          @wesdym all squares are rectangles, not every rectangle is a square.

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                                          @alci Um.. okay.

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