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  • vonskinnback@mastodon.socialV vonskinnback@mastodon.social

    @nickofnz this is a great start, but it doesn't replace packaging, fertiliser, petroleum byproducts that are used in virtually every production process on the planet, there is still a long way to go...

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    @Vonskinnback @nickofnz when you stop burning petroleum as fuel, the amount available for chemical/industrial uses increases. According to wikipedia, currently 84% of petroleum produced globally is burned as fuel. Eliminate that and other use cases get 5x cheaper.

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      @bjn @gusseting
      For remote mining sites, renewables + batteries is a competitive edge. Trucking diesel is very expensive.

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      • nickofnz@mastodon.nzN nickofnz@mastodon.nz

        BOOM!
        South Australia's power prices have plummeted as they near 100% renewables, proving to the world that relying on wind and solar with battery back-up is possible, more reliable and costs people less.

        THIS is how we avoid the next oil crisis.

        #EnergyRevolution #solar #renewables #australia #makeoilhistory #auspol #NZPol #NewZealand #iran

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        @Nick Young :tinoflag: So operators of solar panels, wind turbines, and battery storage facilities don’t receive any subsidies, right? RIGHT?? 🙄🤦‍♂️
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        • gusseting@mastodon.socialG gusseting@mastodon.social

          @robloblaw Thank you for your thoughts.
          I've had similar conversations previously.
          result:
          https://mastodon.social/@gusseting/116384914471772450

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          @gusseting
          It is a petrostate, with all the corruption that implies; but renewables are the cheapest form of new electricity generation, EVs are cheaper than ICE vehicles. The grid getting cheaper and greener benefits all, even though it currently favours home owners (roof top solar + batteries).
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          • robloblaw@mastodon.socialR robloblaw@mastodon.social

            @gusseting
            It is a petrostate, with all the corruption that implies; but renewables are the cheapest form of new electricity generation, EVs are cheaper than ICE vehicles. The grid getting cheaper and greener benefits all, even though it currently favours home owners (roof top solar + batteries).
            1/2

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            @gusseting
            How much of that gas usage is spent cooling methane for export? Gas networks for homes and industry are already worrying about death spirals as heat pumps replace them for heating, and state gov. incentives discourage gas cooking.

            Where did that data come from? It seems like coal usage should have reduced more than that recently.
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            • nickofnz@mastodon.nzN nickofnz@mastodon.nz

              BOOM!
              South Australia's power prices have plummeted as they near 100% renewables, proving to the world that relying on wind and solar with battery back-up is possible, more reliable and costs people less.

              THIS is how we avoid the next oil crisis.

              #EnergyRevolution #solar #renewables #australia #makeoilhistory #auspol #NZPol #NewZealand #iran

              Link Preview Image
              This state’s power prices are plummeting as it nears 100% renewables

              South Australia is proving to the world that relying largely on wind and solar energy with battery back-up is incredibly cheap, with electricity prices tumbling by 30 per cent in a year and sometimes going negative

              favicon

              New Scientist (www.newscientist.com)

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              @nickofnz and people have nie more money to doend on other things.

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              • robloblaw@mastodon.socialR robloblaw@mastodon.social

                @gusseting
                It is a petrostate, with all the corruption that implies; but renewables are the cheapest form of new electricity generation, EVs are cheaper than ICE vehicles. The grid getting cheaper and greener benefits all, even though it currently favours home owners (roof top solar + batteries).
                1/2

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                @robloblaw @gusseting

                Sorry to be pedantic, but "petrostate" refers to a country whose economy is dependent on oil exports, like Russia or Saudi Arabia. We could even say Canada is one for the sake of argument, or to make a point. Australia though is definitely not.

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                • nickofnz@mastodon.nzN nickofnz@mastodon.nz

                  BOOM!
                  South Australia's power prices have plummeted as they near 100% renewables, proving to the world that relying on wind and solar with battery back-up is possible, more reliable and costs people less.

                  THIS is how we avoid the next oil crisis.

                  #EnergyRevolution #solar #renewables #australia #makeoilhistory #auspol #NZPol #NewZealand #iran

                  Link Preview Image
                  This state’s power prices are plummeting as it nears 100% renewables

                  South Australia is proving to the world that relying largely on wind and solar energy with battery back-up is incredibly cheap, with electricity prices tumbling by 30 per cent in a year and sometimes going negative

                  favicon

                  New Scientist (www.newscientist.com)

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                  @nickofnz There will be no 'next' oil crisis. this will finish us off
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                  • nickofnz@mastodon.nzN nickofnz@mastodon.nz

                    BOOM!
                    South Australia's power prices have plummeted as they near 100% renewables, proving to the world that relying on wind and solar with battery back-up is possible, more reliable and costs people less.

                    THIS is how we avoid the next oil crisis.

                    #EnergyRevolution #solar #renewables #australia #makeoilhistory #auspol #NZPol #NewZealand #iran

                    Link Preview Image
                    This state’s power prices are plummeting as it nears 100% renewables

                    South Australia is proving to the world that relying largely on wind and solar energy with battery back-up is incredibly cheap, with electricity prices tumbling by 30 per cent in a year and sometimes going negative

                    favicon

                    New Scientist (www.newscientist.com)

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                    @nickofnz

                    That is awesome. Here we are slaves to the oil masters.

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                    • nickofnz@mastodon.nzN nickofnz@mastodon.nz

                      BOOM!
                      South Australia's power prices have plummeted as they near 100% renewables, proving to the world that relying on wind and solar with battery back-up is possible, more reliable and costs people less.

                      THIS is how we avoid the next oil crisis.

                      #EnergyRevolution #solar #renewables #australia #makeoilhistory #auspol #NZPol #NewZealand #iran

                      Link Preview Image
                      This state’s power prices are plummeting as it nears 100% renewables

                      South Australia is proving to the world that relying largely on wind and solar energy with battery back-up is incredibly cheap, with electricity prices tumbling by 30 per cent in a year and sometimes going negative

                      favicon

                      New Scientist (www.newscientist.com)

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                      @nickofnz It's a bit obvious for the *whole* of Oz, isn't it, with lots of land and lots of sunshine?

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                      • nickofnz@mastodon.nzN nickofnz@mastodon.nz

                        BOOM!
                        South Australia's power prices have plummeted as they near 100% renewables, proving to the world that relying on wind and solar with battery back-up is possible, more reliable and costs people less.

                        THIS is how we avoid the next oil crisis.

                        #EnergyRevolution #solar #renewables #australia #makeoilhistory #auspol #NZPol #NewZealand #iran

                        Link Preview Image
                        This state’s power prices are plummeting as it nears 100% renewables

                        South Australia is proving to the world that relying largely on wind and solar energy with battery back-up is incredibly cheap, with electricity prices tumbling by 30 per cent in a year and sometimes going negative

                        favicon

                        New Scientist (www.newscientist.com)

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                        @nickofnz Good for Australia but doesn't mean it should (or work) for every country e.g. Finland.

                        But I like the idea of more autonomous life and increasing the share of renewable sources wherever it is possible.

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                        • ddens@mastodon.socialD ddens@mastodon.social

                          @nickofnz Good for Australia but doesn't mean it should (or work) for every country e.g. Finland.

                          But I like the idea of more autonomous life and increasing the share of renewable sources wherever it is possible.

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                          @ddens @nickofnz

                          Well obviously. For Finland it should be mostly a mix of wind, hydro and nuclear but shouldn't forget solar either, during the summer that would be excellent. And its not like the whole country is in darkness during the winter, panels would work fine in the most populated areas for 5-6 hours per day, even during the darkest time of the year.

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