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  • robloblaw@mastodon.socialR robloblaw@mastodon.social

    @gusseting @JulianOliver
    Trucking should be aggressively decarbonised now electric trucks are here, but this government isn't investing in the charging network needed for that process to start
    2/2

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    @robloblaw Thank you for your thoughts.
    I've had similar conversations previously.
    result:
    https://mastodon.social/@gusseting/116384914471772450

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    • gusseting@mastodon.socialG gusseting@mastodon.social

      @robloblaw Thank you for your thoughts.
      I've had similar conversations previously.
      result:
      https://mastodon.social/@gusseting/116384914471772450

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      @gusseting @robloblaw Go read up on the primary energy fallacy.

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      • nickofnz@mastodon.nzN nickofnz@mastodon.nz

        BOOM!
        South Australia's power prices have plummeted as they near 100% renewables, proving to the world that relying on wind and solar with battery back-up is possible, more reliable and costs people less.

        THIS is how we avoid the next oil crisis.

        #EnergyRevolution #solar #renewables #australia #makeoilhistory #auspol #NZPol #NewZealand #iran

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        @nickofnz @Bundesregierung Eure korrupte Ministerin Eon Reiche pusht währenddessen weiter extrem teuere #gewaltenergien statt günstige, klimaschonende #heimatenergien voranzutreiben und uns unabhängig zu machen.

        Stoppt den Wahnsinn. Das sind die wenigen Profite nicht wert. Oder ist euch Egoisten die Welt und die Deutschen Bürger so egal?!

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        • gusseting@mastodon.socialG gusseting@mastodon.social

          RE: https://mastodon.social/@gusseting/116391056837022378

          @JulianOliver don't believe the climate hype re: Australia's "massive" renewables use nearing 100% renewables. Australia is at 9% renewables as a % of total energy consumption, and is the largest user of diesel per capita in the world ⬇️

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          @gusseting @JulianOliver So what’s your point? That SA should give up on solar and wind because they haven’t got all diesel vehicles off the road yet? Reducing dependence of fossil fuels requires electrifying the hell out of everything, and cheap clean electricity is the enabler for that. It is already changing things, eg: BEV sales are surging. 1/2

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          • bjn@mstdn.socialB bjn@mstdn.social

            @gusseting @JulianOliver So what’s your point? That SA should give up on solar and wind because they haven’t got all diesel vehicles off the road yet? Reducing dependence of fossil fuels requires electrifying the hell out of everything, and cheap clean electricity is the enabler for that. It is already changing things, eg: BEV sales are surging. 1/2

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            @gusseting @JulianOliver Given electricity’s inherent efficiency over combustion, each time you replace a burny thing with a sparky thing, you typically need 3x less primary energy as input for the same amount of useful energy out the end. Your diagram doesn’t show that inherent advantage. 2/2

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            • nickofnz@mastodon.nzN nickofnz@mastodon.nz

              BOOM!
              South Australia's power prices have plummeted as they near 100% renewables, proving to the world that relying on wind and solar with battery back-up is possible, more reliable and costs people less.

              THIS is how we avoid the next oil crisis.

              #EnergyRevolution #solar #renewables #australia #makeoilhistory #auspol #NZPol #NewZealand #iran

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              This state’s power prices are plummeting as it nears 100% renewables

              South Australia is proving to the world that relying largely on wind and solar energy with battery back-up is incredibly cheap, with electricity prices tumbling by 30 per cent in a year and sometimes going negative

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              @nickofnz 🎯🎯🎯

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              • nickofnz@mastodon.nzN nickofnz@mastodon.nz

                BOOM!
                South Australia's power prices have plummeted as they near 100% renewables, proving to the world that relying on wind and solar with battery back-up is possible, more reliable and costs people less.

                THIS is how we avoid the next oil crisis.

                #EnergyRevolution #solar #renewables #australia #makeoilhistory #auspol #NZPol #NewZealand #iran

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                This state’s power prices are plummeting as it nears 100% renewables

                South Australia is proving to the world that relying largely on wind and solar energy with battery back-up is incredibly cheap, with electricity prices tumbling by 30 per cent in a year and sometimes going negative

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                @nickofnz This is the horror scenario #bigoil is so afraid of. This is why #bigoil is bribing politicians to maintain the status quo. Profits are the reason why they don’t care to burn the planet.

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                • nickofnz@mastodon.nzN nickofnz@mastodon.nz

                  BOOM!
                  South Australia's power prices have plummeted as they near 100% renewables, proving to the world that relying on wind and solar with battery back-up is possible, more reliable and costs people less.

                  THIS is how we avoid the next oil crisis.

                  #EnergyRevolution #solar #renewables #australia #makeoilhistory #auspol #NZPol #NewZealand #iran

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                  This state’s power prices are plummeting as it nears 100% renewables

                  South Australia is proving to the world that relying largely on wind and solar energy with battery back-up is incredibly cheap, with electricity prices tumbling by 30 per cent in a year and sometimes going negative

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                  @nickofnz but what about the profits for large energy companies and oil firms????!!!?

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                  • vonskinnback@mastodon.socialV vonskinnback@mastodon.social

                    @nickofnz this is a great start, but it doesn't replace packaging, fertiliser, petroleum byproducts that are used in virtually every production process on the planet, there is still a long way to go...

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                    @Vonskinnback @nickofnz when you stop burning petroleum as fuel, the amount available for chemical/industrial uses increases. According to wikipedia, currently 84% of petroleum produced globally is burned as fuel. Eliminate that and other use cases get 5x cheaper.

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                      @bjn @gusseting
                      For remote mining sites, renewables + batteries is a competitive edge. Trucking diesel is very expensive.

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                      • nickofnz@mastodon.nzN nickofnz@mastodon.nz

                        BOOM!
                        South Australia's power prices have plummeted as they near 100% renewables, proving to the world that relying on wind and solar with battery back-up is possible, more reliable and costs people less.

                        THIS is how we avoid the next oil crisis.

                        #EnergyRevolution #solar #renewables #australia #makeoilhistory #auspol #NZPol #NewZealand #iran

                        Link Preview Image
                        This state’s power prices are plummeting as it nears 100% renewables

                        South Australia is proving to the world that relying largely on wind and solar energy with battery back-up is incredibly cheap, with electricity prices tumbling by 30 per cent in a year and sometimes going negative

                        favicon

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                        @Nick Young :tinoflag: So operators of solar panels, wind turbines, and battery storage facilities don’t receive any subsidies, right? RIGHT?? 🙄🤦‍♂️
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                        • gusseting@mastodon.socialG gusseting@mastodon.social

                          @robloblaw Thank you for your thoughts.
                          I've had similar conversations previously.
                          result:
                          https://mastodon.social/@gusseting/116384914471772450

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                          @gusseting
                          It is a petrostate, with all the corruption that implies; but renewables are the cheapest form of new electricity generation, EVs are cheaper than ICE vehicles. The grid getting cheaper and greener benefits all, even though it currently favours home owners (roof top solar + batteries).
                          1/2

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                          • robloblaw@mastodon.socialR robloblaw@mastodon.social

                            @gusseting
                            It is a petrostate, with all the corruption that implies; but renewables are the cheapest form of new electricity generation, EVs are cheaper than ICE vehicles. The grid getting cheaper and greener benefits all, even though it currently favours home owners (roof top solar + batteries).
                            1/2

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                            @gusseting
                            How much of that gas usage is spent cooling methane for export? Gas networks for homes and industry are already worrying about death spirals as heat pumps replace them for heating, and state gov. incentives discourage gas cooking.

                            Where did that data come from? It seems like coal usage should have reduced more than that recently.
                            2/2

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                            • nickofnz@mastodon.nzN nickofnz@mastodon.nz

                              BOOM!
                              South Australia's power prices have plummeted as they near 100% renewables, proving to the world that relying on wind and solar with battery back-up is possible, more reliable and costs people less.

                              THIS is how we avoid the next oil crisis.

                              #EnergyRevolution #solar #renewables #australia #makeoilhistory #auspol #NZPol #NewZealand #iran

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                              This state’s power prices are plummeting as it nears 100% renewables

                              South Australia is proving to the world that relying largely on wind and solar energy with battery back-up is incredibly cheap, with electricity prices tumbling by 30 per cent in a year and sometimes going negative

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                              @nickofnz and people have nie more money to doend on other things.

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                              • robloblaw@mastodon.socialR robloblaw@mastodon.social

                                @gusseting
                                It is a petrostate, with all the corruption that implies; but renewables are the cheapest form of new electricity generation, EVs are cheaper than ICE vehicles. The grid getting cheaper and greener benefits all, even though it currently favours home owners (roof top solar + batteries).
                                1/2

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                                @robloblaw @gusseting

                                Sorry to be pedantic, but "petrostate" refers to a country whose economy is dependent on oil exports, like Russia or Saudi Arabia. We could even say Canada is one for the sake of argument, or to make a point. Australia though is definitely not.

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                                • nickofnz@mastodon.nzN nickofnz@mastodon.nz

                                  BOOM!
                                  South Australia's power prices have plummeted as they near 100% renewables, proving to the world that relying on wind and solar with battery back-up is possible, more reliable and costs people less.

                                  THIS is how we avoid the next oil crisis.

                                  #EnergyRevolution #solar #renewables #australia #makeoilhistory #auspol #NZPol #NewZealand #iran

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                                  This state’s power prices are plummeting as it nears 100% renewables

                                  South Australia is proving to the world that relying largely on wind and solar energy with battery back-up is incredibly cheap, with electricity prices tumbling by 30 per cent in a year and sometimes going negative

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                                  @nickofnz There will be no 'next' oil crisis. this will finish us off
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                                  • nickofnz@mastodon.nzN nickofnz@mastodon.nz

                                    BOOM!
                                    South Australia's power prices have plummeted as they near 100% renewables, proving to the world that relying on wind and solar with battery back-up is possible, more reliable and costs people less.

                                    THIS is how we avoid the next oil crisis.

                                    #EnergyRevolution #solar #renewables #australia #makeoilhistory #auspol #NZPol #NewZealand #iran

                                    Link Preview Image
                                    This state’s power prices are plummeting as it nears 100% renewables

                                    South Australia is proving to the world that relying largely on wind and solar energy with battery back-up is incredibly cheap, with electricity prices tumbling by 30 per cent in a year and sometimes going negative

                                    favicon

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                                    @nickofnz

                                    That is awesome. Here we are slaves to the oil masters.

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                                    • nickofnz@mastodon.nzN nickofnz@mastodon.nz

                                      BOOM!
                                      South Australia's power prices have plummeted as they near 100% renewables, proving to the world that relying on wind and solar with battery back-up is possible, more reliable and costs people less.

                                      THIS is how we avoid the next oil crisis.

                                      #EnergyRevolution #solar #renewables #australia #makeoilhistory #auspol #NZPol #NewZealand #iran

                                      Link Preview Image
                                      This state’s power prices are plummeting as it nears 100% renewables

                                      South Australia is proving to the world that relying largely on wind and solar energy with battery back-up is incredibly cheap, with electricity prices tumbling by 30 per cent in a year and sometimes going negative

                                      favicon

                                      New Scientist (www.newscientist.com)

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                                      @nickofnz It's a bit obvious for the *whole* of Oz, isn't it, with lots of land and lots of sunshine?

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                                      • nickofnz@mastodon.nzN nickofnz@mastodon.nz

                                        BOOM!
                                        South Australia's power prices have plummeted as they near 100% renewables, proving to the world that relying on wind and solar with battery back-up is possible, more reliable and costs people less.

                                        THIS is how we avoid the next oil crisis.

                                        #EnergyRevolution #solar #renewables #australia #makeoilhistory #auspol #NZPol #NewZealand #iran

                                        Link Preview Image
                                        This state’s power prices are plummeting as it nears 100% renewables

                                        South Australia is proving to the world that relying largely on wind and solar energy with battery back-up is incredibly cheap, with electricity prices tumbling by 30 per cent in a year and sometimes going negative

                                        favicon

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                                        @nickofnz Good for Australia but doesn't mean it should (or work) for every country e.g. Finland.

                                        But I like the idea of more autonomous life and increasing the share of renewable sources wherever it is possible.

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                                        • ddens@mastodon.socialD ddens@mastodon.social

                                          @nickofnz Good for Australia but doesn't mean it should (or work) for every country e.g. Finland.

                                          But I like the idea of more autonomous life and increasing the share of renewable sources wherever it is possible.

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                                          @ddens @nickofnz

                                          Well obviously. For Finland it should be mostly a mix of wind, hydro and nuclear but shouldn't forget solar either, during the summer that would be excellent. And its not like the whole country is in darkness during the winter, panels would work fine in the most populated areas for 5-6 hours per day, even during the darkest time of the year.

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