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  3. People minimizing Orbán’s defeat in #Hungary through voting, and claiming that the same can’t be done to Donald Trump: Remember that Orbán was in power for SIXTEEN YEARS, that is, 2.5× LONGER than Trump.

People minimizing Orbán’s defeat in #Hungary through voting, and claiming that the same can’t be done to Donald Trump: Remember that Orbán was in power for SIXTEEN YEARS, that is, 2.5× LONGER than Trump.

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  • orionkidder@mas.toO orionkidder@mas.to

    @drahardja Yes.

    And then, once the Democrats are in power, do NOT let them sleep until they prosecute everyone anywhere near the Republican party who aided in Trump's lawbreaking and ban the party itself.

    Otherwise, they will just run again in the next election. It's not over until you show them they can't do this again.

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    @OrionKidder @drahardja Exactly. Follow-through is essential. Even better: make sure the Democrats are new ones, and/or DSA. With few exceptions the old ones have failed so badly they shouldn't be let anywhere near the levers of power; their hunger for the corporate teat, and ingrained tendency to appeasement, runs far too deep.

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    • orionkidder@mas.toO orionkidder@mas.to

      @drahardja Yes.

      And then, once the Democrats are in power, do NOT let them sleep until they prosecute everyone anywhere near the Republican party who aided in Trump's lawbreaking and ban the party itself.

      Otherwise, they will just run again in the next election. It's not over until you show them they can't do this again.

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      @OrionKidder @drahardja Have you noticed that Trump promised to prosecute a lot of Democrats going to back to Hillary "You'd be in jail" Clinton in 2016, and did not do it?

      The Democrats might go after Trump and his family - they are outsiders and need to be punished for trespassing in the political club - but other club member Republicans are off limits just like club member Democrats were.

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      • drahardja@sfba.socialD drahardja@sfba.social

        People minimizing Orbán’s defeat in #Hungary through voting, and claiming that the same can’t be done to Donald Trump: Remember that Orbán was in power for SIXTEEN YEARS, that is, 2.5× LONGER than Trump. He had more than twice the time Trump has had to intimidate, corrupt, and destroy Hungary’s systems of voting. And yet, voting unseated him.

        PLEASE do not preemptively give up on voting. Voting still works in the US, and it is quite likely that our voting infrastructure will far outlive Trump and his destructive party.

        Authoritarians rely on a perceived popular mandate to continue their abuse. Voting can decisively deny them that mandate. Do not give up prematurely.

        VOTE. VOTE. VOTE.

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        @drahardja

        Peter Magyar is a genocidal Zionist. This is not a great accomplishment. Replacing a right-winger with a right-winger will only lead us farther down the road to fascism. Which is exactly what happened when we replaced Trump with a rightwing racist Dixiecrat who was in the Ku Klux Klan and who mass murdered poor people in America with his horrific economic policy and then funded and armed the worst genocide any of us have ever seen.

        Voting has progressively made things absolutely worse with each new asshole we elect.

        Burn it all down

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        • linza@kamu.socialL linza@kamu.social

          @drahardja Voting would work in the US with an audit trail, requirement to count mail-in ballots, paper ballots instead of electronic, and giving everyone back their right to vote. Everyone, which is to say, including citizens with a felony conviction.

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          @Linza @drahardja

          And ranked choice and ONLY publicly funded elections with limits on how much you can donate, ending SuperPacs and billionaires buying our politicians

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            @Dialectician @drahardja A complementary strategy could involve strengthening international legal frameworks to hold transnational corporations accountable, limiting their ability to exploit regulatory arbitrage between nations.

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