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  • darth@silversword.onlineD darth@silversword.online

    For *BSD fans, I wish to understand something that truly bothers me.

    You are a fan of one or more BSD os. Is that BSD (doesn't matter which one) your daily driver, your primary OS on your main computer?

    #BSD #FreeBSD #OpenBSD #NetBSD

    dexter@bsd.networkD This user is from outside of this forum
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    dexter@bsd.network
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    #79

    @darth From the way you have phrased this, I take it you are truly bothered that someone could hypothetically use BSD on 1,000 servers but are hypocrites for not using BSD on the system they manage them from?

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    • darth@silversword.onlineD darth@silversword.online

      For *BSD fans, I wish to understand something that truly bothers me.

      You are a fan of one or more BSD os. Is that BSD (doesn't matter which one) your daily driver, your primary OS on your main computer?

      #BSD #FreeBSD #OpenBSD #NetBSD

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      f451@mastodon.bsd.cafe
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      #80

      @darth Workstation is FreeBSD. I read most of the email I get via mutt on OpenBSD, on a rpi4b

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      • darth@silversword.onlineD darth@silversword.online

        For *BSD fans, I wish to understand something that truly bothers me.

        You are a fan of one or more BSD os. Is that BSD (doesn't matter which one) your daily driver, your primary OS on your main computer?

        #BSD #FreeBSD #OpenBSD #NetBSD

        rubenerd@bsd.networkR This user is from outside of this forum
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        rubenerd@bsd.network
        wrote last edited by
        #81

        @darth

        Great question. My daily driver is my work-provided machine, which runs macOS.

        My "personal" daily driver is a ThinkPad with FreeBSD, and a writing machine with NetBSD.

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        • darth@silversword.onlineD darth@silversword.online

          For *BSD fans, I wish to understand something that truly bothers me.

          You are a fan of one or more BSD os. Is that BSD (doesn't matter which one) your daily driver, your primary OS on your main computer?

          #BSD #FreeBSD #OpenBSD #NetBSD

          xhr@infosec.exchangeX This user is from outside of this forum
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          xhr@infosec.exchange
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          #82

          @darth OpenBSD on my main notebook

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          • darth@silversword.onlineD darth@silversword.online

            For *BSD fans, I wish to understand something that truly bothers me.

            You are a fan of one or more BSD os. Is that BSD (doesn't matter which one) your daily driver, your primary OS on your main computer?

            #BSD #FreeBSD #OpenBSD #NetBSD

            yoasif@mastodon.socialY This user is from outside of this forum
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            yoasif@mastodon.social
            wrote last edited by
            #83

            @darth The fact that the #opensource #BSD desktop is somehow less far along than the #Linux is one of the observations in my post about #genai is killing copyleft: https://www.quippd.com/writing/2026/04/08/ai-code-is-hollowing-out-open-source-and-maintainers-are-looking-the-other-way.html

            Some of the BSD enthusiasts may enjoy the post, even if they prefer permissive licenses.

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            • darth@silversword.onlineD darth@silversword.online

              For *BSD fans, I wish to understand something that truly bothers me.

              You are a fan of one or more BSD os. Is that BSD (doesn't matter which one) your daily driver, your primary OS on your main computer?

              #BSD #FreeBSD #OpenBSD #NetBSD

              aaron@chirp.zadzmo.orgA This user is from outside of this forum
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              aaron@chirp.zadzmo.org
              wrote last edited by
              #84

              @darth In my constellation of systems, NetBSD is overwhelmingly predominate.

              There is one Linux machine, purely because of audio driver support; currently Debian but I'm looking into ditching that in favor of bare metal Alpine.

              There's also a Solaris machine that's critical. Actual real Solaris, properly licensed under the fan license Sun created, that Oracle promptly shut down.

              Also OpenBSD on a firewall. Out of habit at the time it was deployed. NetBSD's npf has caught up; I'll be installing Net soon.

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              • darth@silversword.onlineD darth@silversword.online

                For *BSD fans, I wish to understand something that truly bothers me.

                You are a fan of one or more BSD os. Is that BSD (doesn't matter which one) your daily driver, your primary OS on your main computer?

                #BSD #FreeBSD #OpenBSD #NetBSD

                dwardoric@chaos.socialD This user is from outside of this forum
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                dwardoric@chaos.social
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                #85

                @darth FreeBSD is my daily driver on the desktop for over 15 years.

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                • darth@silversword.onlineD darth@silversword.online

                  For *BSD fans, I wish to understand something that truly bothers me.

                  You are a fan of one or more BSD os. Is that BSD (doesn't matter which one) your daily driver, your primary OS on your main computer?

                  #BSD #FreeBSD #OpenBSD #NetBSD

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                  captain_lesbee_ziner@mastodon.social
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                  #86

                  @darth I daily drive FreeBSD-15.0-RELEASE-amd64 on my T430. I currently play Battlefield Vietnam on it πŸ™‚

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                  • darth@silversword.onlineD darth@silversword.online

                    For *BSD fans, I wish to understand something that truly bothers me.

                    You are a fan of one or more BSD os. Is that BSD (doesn't matter which one) your daily driver, your primary OS on your main computer?

                    #BSD #FreeBSD #OpenBSD #NetBSD

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                    monwarez@mastodon.bsd.cafe
                    wrote last edited by
                    #87

                    @darth FreeBSD is my primary OS

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                    • darth@silversword.onlineD darth@silversword.online

                      For *BSD fans, I wish to understand something that truly bothers me.

                      You are a fan of one or more BSD os. Is that BSD (doesn't matter which one) your daily driver, your primary OS on your main computer?

                      #BSD #FreeBSD #OpenBSD #NetBSD

                      kurtm@bsd.networkK This user is from outside of this forum
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                      kurtm@bsd.network
                      wrote last edited by
                      #88

                      @darth OpenBSD is my primary OS. With shockingly little pain doing so.

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                      • darth@silversword.onlineD darth@silversword.online

                        For *BSD fans, I wish to understand something that truly bothers me.

                        You are a fan of one or more BSD os. Is that BSD (doesn't matter which one) your daily driver, your primary OS on your main computer?

                        #BSD #FreeBSD #OpenBSD #NetBSD

                        nathanael@dalliard.chN This user is from outside of this forum
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                        nathanael@dalliard.ch
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                        #89
                        #openbsd on laptop and servers (no desktop)
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                        • darth@silversword.onlineD darth@silversword.online

                          For *BSD fans, I wish to understand something that truly bothers me.

                          You are a fan of one or more BSD os. Is that BSD (doesn't matter which one) your daily driver, your primary OS on your main computer?

                          #BSD #FreeBSD #OpenBSD #NetBSD

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                          #90

                          @darth Main browsing box is FreeBSD. Main workstation is trying to move to FreeBSD.

                          For gaming, I'm going to have to use Linux or Windows in a VM with GPU passthrough, FreeBSD is not up to snuff/far too much hassle.

                          The BSD I most prefer is OpenBSD, but that's generally more suitable for firewalls. Using it as a desktop involves too much pain, so FreeBSD is a compromise.

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                          • darth@silversword.onlineD darth@silversword.online

                            For *BSD fans, I wish to understand something that truly bothers me.

                            You are a fan of one or more BSD os. Is that BSD (doesn't matter which one) your daily driver, your primary OS on your main computer?

                            #BSD #FreeBSD #OpenBSD #NetBSD

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                            brendan@social.brendans-bits.com
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                            #91

                            @darth FreeBSD was my server distro, but has been my daily driver for the past week.

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                            • darth@silversword.onlineD darth@silversword.online

                              For *BSD fans, I wish to understand something that truly bothers me.

                              You are a fan of one or more BSD os. Is that BSD (doesn't matter which one) your daily driver, your primary OS on your main computer?

                              #BSD #FreeBSD #OpenBSD #NetBSD

                              pesco@bsd.networkP This user is from outside of this forum
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                              pesco@bsd.network
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                              #92

                              @darth OpenBSD daily driver

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                              • darth@silversword.onlineD darth@silversword.online

                                For *BSD fans, I wish to understand something that truly bothers me.

                                You are a fan of one or more BSD os. Is that BSD (doesn't matter which one) your daily driver, your primary OS on your main computer?

                                #BSD #FreeBSD #OpenBSD #NetBSD

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                                paulf@mastodon.bsd.cafe
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                                @DarthPutinKGB

                                My main workstation mostly runs FreeBSD 14.3-RELEASE. That's what I use for most of my work on Valgrind. I mainly use
                                Qt Creator for my IDE.
                                Firefox and Thunderbird. They work fine on FreeBSD.
                                VirtualBox
                                konsole and ssh
                                toolchain stuff (mostly LLVM toolchain but also GNU toolchain a bit)
                                gdb (and lldb a bit)
                                git, gitk, meld

                                I need access to a as many systems as possible (ideally the OS running on real hardware, VMs when necessary).

                                I also have a laptop and RPi 4b both running FreeBSD 15.0-RELEASE, an old workstation running OpenIndiana Hipster 2025.10, a mac mini M4 running macOS 26.4 and and old MacBook Pro Intel running macOS 13.6.

                                I've been using FeeeBSD on and off since 2.1 in 1997 (mostly off to start with, for a long time Solaris was my main OS).

                                Two things put me off Linux. Firstly the toxic arrogance of the technical leaders. Torvalds sets a terrible example as a leader, not having an ounce of decency or humility. I'm not saying that the BSD world isn't free of a*seholes.

                                The other thing is the lack of stability. The Linux distros that I've used the most at home are OpenSuSE and Fedora. OpenSUSE is OK, occasional problems a bit like FreeBSD. Fedora is simply junk in my anecdotal experience. I've had way more kernel panics (100x or more) from Fedora than everything else put together, despite the fact that I only use it for a tiny fraction of the amount that I use FreeBSD/macOS/illumos. If the kernel doesn't panic then there is a high probability that you will get a black screen or window manager crashes because the NVIDIA drivers are almost permanently broken.

                                Linux in the corporate world seems better. At work it's Windows 11 and RH/CeontOS/Rocky via NoMachine. I have had more kernel panics than with other OSes but it is acceptably rare.

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                                • darth@silversword.onlineD darth@silversword.online

                                  For *BSD fans, I wish to understand something that truly bothers me.

                                  You are a fan of one or more BSD os. Is that BSD (doesn't matter which one) your daily driver, your primary OS on your main computer?

                                  #BSD #FreeBSD #OpenBSD #NetBSD

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                                  #94

                                  @darth

                                  OpenBSD with CWM for a number of years.

                                  I had more full featured DEs, but then I asked myself, "How often do I *really* move my windows around? Aren't they in the same place and shapes 90% of the time?"

                                  Also, launching ssh sessions is dead easy.

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                                  • darth@silversword.onlineD darth@silversword.online

                                    For *BSD fans, I wish to understand something that truly bothers me.

                                    You are a fan of one or more BSD os. Is that BSD (doesn't matter which one) your daily driver, your primary OS on your main computer?

                                    #BSD #FreeBSD #OpenBSD #NetBSD

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                                    grahamperrin@mastodon.bsd.cafe
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                                    #95

                                    Additional responses in BSD Cafe Billboard and Reddit:

                                    <https://billboard.bsd.cafe/post/235>

                                    <https://www.reddit.com/r/freebsd/comments/1smrjm3/daily_driver_macos_bsd_linux_or_windows/>

                                    @darth

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                                      #96

                                      @darth I think, the real story is BSD Cafe – thanks to @stefano for creating spaces where people can so freely discuss their preferences πŸ™‚

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                                      • grahamperrin@mastodon.bsd.cafeG grahamperrin@mastodon.bsd.cafe

                                        @darth I think, the real story is BSD Cafe – thanks to @stefano for creating spaces where people can so freely discuss their preferences πŸ™‚

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                                        @grahamperrin @stefano I might have met that guy once https://youtu.be/EJBNrHInaQg?list=PL3KVgwMTWoO0WCec7t7-oHHLZY4fktTRr

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                                          #98

                                          @rl_dane @darth Linux is like love making the life difficult for everybody, and sometimes I have impressions because their devs just want do something quirky...! πŸ˜›

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