For *BSD fans, I wish to understand something that truly bothers me.
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@darth That's exactly right—I switched to #DragonFlyBSD as my main OS as soon as Linux started stinking up with systemd. Now I'm using #FreeBSD
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I am in the process of making FreeBSD my primary OS. It’s replaced Debian on my raspberry pi and I have just set up some spare SATA SSDs to install to on my desktop (hoping to use ZFS1). I will be triple booting Debian, FreeBSD, and Windows (for the wife) until I feel more confident.
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@darth I've been running OpenBSD on my laptop(s) since about 2012 or so. It's no big deal.
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@darth Primary, in the sense of "desktop," is OpenBSD—it's been other things at various times, but that's what I keep coming back to. But for servers I generally use OmniOS or Debian (or Debian in an LX branded illumos zone).
And my work system is macOS because of my only two choices, better that than Windows 11.
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Daily driver: FreeBSD
Kid's junker laptop: OpenBSD
Writerdeck Netbook: OpenBSD (though sometimes HaikuOS)
iBook G4: OpenBSD
Travel laptop: one each of OpenBSD & FreeBSD
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@darth Primary workstation is FreeBSD 15 with triple monitors, Wayland, Wayfire.
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@darth it’s complicated.
(My main BSD laptop broke physically, but I got a replacement, but the fast VM I used for building is on a machine I don’t have any more, and I refactored myself into a corner and must fix MirBSD first so atm I daily-drive an X61 with systemd-free Debian but otherwise the same setup (X without DM or DE, evilwm, xterm, screen, sirc, pine, lynx, …) I have on the BSD machine, and intend to switch back once I have sufficient time+tuits to make that usable again and update to LibreSSL, but atm I cannot even set up a. new build VM easily enough, it’s all tricky.)
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@darth I'm mostly using various releases of various BSDs in VMs for cross-platform software testing.
I do have plans to experiment with FreeBSD on a couple of machines in my homelab, and to run NetBSD on a few unusual old computers. If I ever get the opportunity, I'd like to try OpenBSD on a ThinkPad X230.
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@darth used to be FreeBSD until some 4 years ago and I used to be a contributor even. "graduated" to Linux with no regrets tbh
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Both my desktop and my ThinkPad run OpenBSD.
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@darth i use netbsd for everything personal and as much work as possible.
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@darth #openBSD - to give some indication of how simple the installer is: I installed it myself and I'm using it as a daily driver, and I'm such a noob I haven't figured out how to mount a USB stick yet. Seems very secure indeed
I managed easily to give it a GUI, office suite, web browsers, #freeCAD, #GIMP, #nextcloud client, & #flightGear. As a computer ignoramus, I'm really impressed by how easy it is. One day I will understand the disk partitioning too 
One cheap Chinese laptop worked fine except for the trackpad, another one has to be left overnight to boot up (the text-only installer boots swiftly so I guess it's most likely an X problem) and the WiFi card isn't recognised. Moral of the story: you'll probably have an easy life, but probably get a thinkpad if you want some degree of assurance.
It's like art to me: I don't understand it the way the artists that made it do, but when I see a system as carefully documented and thoughtfully constructed to be as elegant as technology seems to permit... Well, I feel like I know it when I see it!
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@darth OpenBSD as primary OS.
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@darth I useOpenBSD (-current) as my main driver. I have also FreeBSD on a second hard-drive to play around from time to time, and Linux to play video games when they are not available on OpenBSD.
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@darth Yeah there are reasons why I have to run Ubuntu on certain nodes, but also given what a disgrace systemd is to actual humankind, I'd shitcan it at the drop of a hat if FreeBSD had Wi-fi and GPU/compute support for the NVidia RTX 500 and newer Intel Wifi7, and IEEE 1588 hardware master support for the I226V (I have a TimeNIC from Time Appliances for my protocol lab, and it needs Ubuntu for the igc driver mods for its custom 1PPS I/O over SMA). Oh, and I need KVM for ipspace netlab just now
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@darth I swear allegiance to no one. But Windows is currently dead to me (for the second time) and I am very much looking forward to the laptop improvements landing in FreeBSD 15.1.
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