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  3. Tonight, an extraordinary order, opinion, and dissent make explicit that the ongoing cold Second American Civil War is raging at the U.S.

Tonight, an extraordinary order, opinion, and dissent make explicit that the ongoing cold Second American Civil War is raging at the U.S.

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  • evan@cosocial.caE evan@cosocial.ca

    @codinghorror @heidilifeldman @jwz Why should *we* leave? We are the majority and we are right.

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    @evan @heidilifeldman @jwz we aren’t leaving. We’re creating something even greater than they can possibly imagine. A new constitution. A better one.

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    • swelljoe@mas.toS swelljoe@mas.to

      @codinghorror @heidilifeldman @jwz secession would guarantee these motherfuckers never face justice, because Democrats would never win another presidential election without those electoral votes. And, they need to face justice.

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      @swelljoe @heidilifeldman @jwz they will face the justice of living with the consequences of their actions for the rest of their lives.

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      • codinghorror@infosec.exchangeC codinghorror@infosec.exchange

        @heidilifeldman cc @jwz look man, I'm ready for two countries. Fuck SCOTUS. That's no longer the United States I believe in. I dissent... permanently. California should secede... anything else is utter cowardice at this point.

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        @codinghorror I’m not from the US, so to a degree none of my business, and definitely outside my expertise. But.. would this work? The one historical attempt to secede didn’t go so well. Wouldn’t the federal government just roll in with the military again? Or is the idea that California’s economic power is such that Washington couldn’t do that?

        (Genuine questions from someone trying to understand your position, btw. Absolutely not trying to poke holes or even “just ask questions”.)

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        • lerxst@az.socialL lerxst@az.social

          @heidilifeldman Alito, Gorsuch, and Thomas should be dropped into a deep dark hole and drink rainwater and eat bugs for the rest of their lives.

          Now, THAT’S what lack of restraint looks like.

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          @lerxst @heidilifeldman

          I dunno. Seems kind of restrained to me.

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          • heidilifeldman@mastodon.socialH heidilifeldman@mastodon.social

            Finally, Alito concludes by chastising Jackson: “It is the dissent’s rhetoric that lacks restraint.” 10/

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            @heidilifeldman so, let me get this straight: the rebuttal from what is supposed to be one of the preëminent juridical minds of the nation is, "No, U"…?

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            • heidilifeldman@mastodon.socialH heidilifeldman@mastodon.social

              All of this has happened on the shadow docket. So the Roberts Court has ok’d election cancellation without merits briefing, oral argument, etc.

              This would be extraordinary and pernicious enough. But because Justice Ketanji Brown Jackson dissented and pointed out how exceptional and dangerous the Court’s order is, Alito, joined by Gorsuch and Thomas, wrote an opinion basically calling her uppity. 4/

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              @heidilifeldman Not an expert on US history, but even I know that word and its ugliness.

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              • rjblaskiewicz@mstdn.socialR rjblaskiewicz@mstdn.social

                @lerxst @heidilifeldman

                I dunno. Seems kind of restrained to me.

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                @rjblaskiewicz @lerxst @heidilifeldman So you have seen the painting in Bruges about the unjust judge?

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                • klara@drupal.communityK klara@drupal.community

                  @rjblaskiewicz @lerxst @heidilifeldman So you have seen the painting in Bruges about the unjust judge?

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                  @Klara @lerxst @heidilifeldman

                  Oooh. It makes me tingly.

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                  • swelljoe@mas.toS swelljoe@mas.to

                    @codinghorror @heidilifeldman @jwz secession would guarantee these motherfuckers never face justice, because Democrats would never win another presidential election without those electoral votes. And, they need to face justice.

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                    @swelljoe @codinghorror @heidilifeldman @jwz after 26+ years, we are no longer waiting for justice in Venezuela. Life is too short.

                    #weComeFromYourFuture

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                    • rjblaskiewicz@mstdn.socialR rjblaskiewicz@mstdn.social

                      @Klara @lerxst @heidilifeldman

                      Oooh. It makes me tingly.

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                      @rjblaskiewicz @Klara @heidilifeldman Wow! Yeah, I retract my prior claim. 😆✊

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                      • lerxst@az.socialL lerxst@az.social

                        @rjblaskiewicz @Klara @heidilifeldman Wow! Yeah, I retract my prior claim. 😆✊

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                        @lerxst @rjblaskiewicz @heidilifeldman So many schoolchildren get a trauma from visiting Bruges. I wish I could say that we improved, that torture doesn't happen anymore.

                        Loved your alt text, with the word invented by your brother.
                        Edit: TIL that the correct name of this punishment is flaying, and they didn't stop at one side for Sisamnes.

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                        • klara@drupal.communityK klara@drupal.community

                          @lerxst @rjblaskiewicz @heidilifeldman So many schoolchildren get a trauma from visiting Bruges. I wish I could say that we improved, that torture doesn't happen anymore.

                          Loved your alt text, with the word invented by your brother.
                          Edit: TIL that the correct name of this punishment is flaying, and they didn't stop at one side for Sisamnes.

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                          @Klara @rjblaskiewicz @heidilifeldman That was Bob who posted that. Apart from music, I'm mostly a fine art philistine. 😁

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                          • lerxst@az.socialL lerxst@az.social

                            @Klara @rjblaskiewicz @heidilifeldman That was Bob who posted that. Apart from music, I'm mostly a fine art philistine. 😁

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                            @lerxst @Klara @heidilifeldman

                            Hemidermectomy was a word that my brother made up when he was learning classical roots of words in high school. It is the stuff of legend in the Blaskiewicz household.

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                            • rjblaskiewicz@mstdn.socialR rjblaskiewicz@mstdn.social

                              @lerxst @Klara @heidilifeldman

                              Hemidermectomy was a word that my brother made up when he was learning classical roots of words in high school. It is the stuff of legend in the Blaskiewicz household.

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                              @rjblaskiewicz @lerxst @heidilifeldman the little scene in the top right shows a new judge later on (his son) with the empty skin draped around his chair as a reminder.

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                              • klara@drupal.communityK klara@drupal.community

                                @rjblaskiewicz @lerxst @heidilifeldman the little scene in the top right shows a new judge later on (his son) with the empty skin draped around his chair as a reminder.

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                                @Klara @lerxst @heidilifeldman

                                I too am an inveterate souvenir collector.

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                                • heidilifeldman@mastodon.socialH heidilifeldman@mastodon.social

                                  Tonight, an extraordinary order, opinion, and dissent make explicit that the ongoing cold Second American Civil War is raging at the U.S. Supreme Court, as it is throughout the U.S. 1/ #LawFedi

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                                  @heidilifeldman Perhaps a better name for the country would be something like „The Biblical Patriarchy of the Confederate States of Apartheid America“ which I'm sure Musk & Thiel would adore. They might even want to induct Jan Smuts, Daniël François Malan and Ian Smith into the ranks of „founding fathers,“ which I'm sure they can bribe/lobby into reality. (Do usanians have any idea how cultish the „founding fathers“ talk sounds to the rest of the world?)

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                                  • beachbum@mastodon.sdf.orgB beachbum@mastodon.sdf.org

                                    @heidilifeldman She’s principled. It truly is time for the Democrats to expand the court and address term limits. I think it might behoove them to run on the importance of the Supreme Court as a priority after the economy. There are so many issues: war, corruption, etc

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                                    @Beachbum @heidilifeldman

                                    There's a list of reforms possible. I like removing crooked justices for ethics violations.

                                    But congress could also pass laws overriding their decisions.

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                                    • heidilifeldman@mastodon.socialH heidilifeldman@mastodon.social

                                      Tonight, an extraordinary order, opinion, and dissent make explicit that the ongoing cold Second American Civil War is raging at the U.S. Supreme Court, as it is throughout the U.S. 1/ #LawFedi

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                                      @heidilifeldman the Civil War was a frozen conflict nobody won. Everyone lost with the possible exception of war industry oligarchs. And yeah, it's thawed.

                                      Shareholder owned prisons equalized who can become a slave while the financial services industry restructured endentured servitude as the default for all but the intergenerationaly wealth. Sharecropping with a cellphone.

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                                      • aggroboy@mastodon.socialA aggroboy@mastodon.social

                                        @codinghorror I’m not from the US, so to a degree none of my business, and definitely outside my expertise. But.. would this work? The one historical attempt to secede didn’t go so well. Wouldn’t the federal government just roll in with the military again? Or is the idea that California’s economic power is such that Washington couldn’t do that?

                                        (Genuine questions from someone trying to understand your position, btw. Absolutely not trying to poke holes or even “just ask questions”.)

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                                        @AggroBoy
                                        Whole can of worms, really

                                        California provides a significant chunk of money to US government and the union as a whole

                                        That money comes via the tech sectors and the oligarchs who own and control the corporations

                                        You see where this is going?

                                        California can not come to a consensus on secession when you have a millionaire governor pretending to be leftist and all his billionaire friends funding the no vote

                                        And if it were successful, then those fascists would either depart with their corps and cash or shred the new country vying to be the top dog

                                        And, of course, the hot war would begin
                                        @codinghorror

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                                        • finitum@mastodon.socialF finitum@mastodon.social

                                          @heidilifeldman mouthing Not True to Obama during SOTU. Has Alito ever indicated which side he wished won the civil war?

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                                          @Finitum @heidilifeldman Yet another example of his willful, motivated ignorance.

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