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The worst thing about online learning is that everything has become a video.

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  • daojoan@mastodon.socialD daojoan@mastodon.social

    The worst thing about online learning is that everything has become a video. Every code tutorial. Every design tutorial. Nobody actually writes out a guide anymore. It's just "hey guys welcome to my tutorial" and watching 10 minutes of content that isn't remotely relevant...

    klausman@mas.toK This user is from outside of this forum
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    #36

    @Daojoan
    Heartily agreed! While _some_ things benefit from video (like "How do you take apart this thing?", though well made photos do the same), most things really don't need a video and bad voice over.

    FWIW, there is this script:

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    which converts YT videos to a series of screenshots along with the subtitled text. I have not tried it, so I don't know how well it works.

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    • daojoan@mastodon.socialD daojoan@mastodon.social

      The worst thing about online learning is that everything has become a video. Every code tutorial. Every design tutorial. Nobody actually writes out a guide anymore. It's just "hey guys welcome to my tutorial" and watching 10 minutes of content that isn't remotely relevant...

      post_reader@wehavecookies.socialP This user is from outside of this forum
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      #37

      @Daojoan
      Just right, I hate videos personally: it is heavy, breaks keyword search and version control.
      What's even worse, I assume we talk about youtube and tiktok/reels videos.

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      • daojoan@mastodon.socialD daojoan@mastodon.social

        The worst thing about online learning is that everything has become a video. Every code tutorial. Every design tutorial. Nobody actually writes out a guide anymore. It's just "hey guys welcome to my tutorial" and watching 10 minutes of content that isn't remotely relevant...

        hc@mastodon.africaH This user is from outside of this forum
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        #38

        @Daojoan and you listen to the annoying video that ultimately doesn't deliver

        or, if it does, you have try to rewind to relisten to the relevant bit and always rewind too far,

        or you try to take a screenshot of the critical part but are not allowed to.

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        • daojoan@mastodon.socialD daojoan@mastodon.social

          The worst thing about online learning is that everything has become a video. Every code tutorial. Every design tutorial. Nobody actually writes out a guide anymore. It's just "hey guys welcome to my tutorial" and watching 10 minutes of content that isn't remotely relevant...

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          #39

          @Daojoan Really annoying
          But luckily I have found an exception for coding:
          Codecademy

          No video, just text and coding exercises. Directly on their platform. You code following the exercise, it corrects you and you can test yourself directly on their platform

          I have a love/hate relationship with them: I love the fact that it is practical, no 30 minute video course, but the pace is really slow.
          But if you want to tackle a new topic in coding, it's just great

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          • daojoan@mastodon.socialD daojoan@mastodon.social

            The worst thing about online learning is that everything has become a video. Every code tutorial. Every design tutorial. Nobody actually writes out a guide anymore. It's just "hey guys welcome to my tutorial" and watching 10 minutes of content that isn't remotely relevant...

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            #40

            @Daojoan
            But every information is repeated 5 times, to get the 10 minutes video filled up.
            With garbage.

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            • daojoan@mastodon.socialD daojoan@mastodon.social

              The worst thing about online learning is that everything has become a video. Every code tutorial. Every design tutorial. Nobody actually writes out a guide anymore. It's just "hey guys welcome to my tutorial" and watching 10 minutes of content that isn't remotely relevant...

              fenixmaster@mastodon.socialF This user is from outside of this forum
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              #41

              @Daojoan We should just return to minimal text pages. No beautiful design, just straight to the point information.

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              • daojoan@mastodon.socialD daojoan@mastodon.social

                The worst thing about online learning is that everything has become a video. Every code tutorial. Every design tutorial. Nobody actually writes out a guide anymore. It's just "hey guys welcome to my tutorial" and watching 10 minutes of content that isn't remotely relevant...

                tydalforce@mastodon.worldT This user is from outside of this forum
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                #42

                @Daojoan A guy I now work with documents internal procedures by linking to YT vids. I'm about ready to rewrite all our wiki pages

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                • daojoan@mastodon.socialD daojoan@mastodon.social

                  The worst thing about online learning is that everything has become a video. Every code tutorial. Every design tutorial. Nobody actually writes out a guide anymore. It's just "hey guys welcome to my tutorial" and watching 10 minutes of content that isn't remotely relevant...

                  nuko147@mastodon.socialN This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #43

                  @Daojoan I dont know if is this or that Discord replaced so many forums, that many problem solving answers and learning material is not searchable or will get lost forever.

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                  • daojoan@mastodon.socialD daojoan@mastodon.social

                    The worst thing about online learning is that everything has become a video. Every code tutorial. Every design tutorial. Nobody actually writes out a guide anymore. It's just "hey guys welcome to my tutorial" and watching 10 minutes of content that isn't remotely relevant...

                    thomasfuchs@hachyderm.ioT This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #44

                    @Daojoan No worries, we now have VibeMaster 2000™ to transform video tutorials into badly written and half-wrong written guides!

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                    • gentlemantech@cyberplace.socialG gentlemantech@cyberplace.social

                      @Daojoan drives me nuts. I can skim text and pick out the necessary info in seconds, but video takes *forever* even at 3x speed where they sound like rabid chipmunks

                      geospaz@mastodon.socialG This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #45

                      @GentlemanTech @Daojoan so much this. I still refuse to listen anyone waffling about when trying to find a simple tech trick, i mute & put cc's on and jump about in a video (if no text-only help available) and when i hit the right keywords start listening.

                      I thought turning video tutorials to text would be the killer app for "ai" but meh. Maybe I should watch a video on how to vibecode a utube2txt .

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                      • daojoan@mastodon.socialD daojoan@mastodon.social

                        The worst thing about online learning is that everything has become a video. Every code tutorial. Every design tutorial. Nobody actually writes out a guide anymore. It's just "hey guys welcome to my tutorial" and watching 10 minutes of content that isn't remotely relevant...

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                        #46

                        this. and that (and the love of books in general) drives me to hoard old books like this 800-pager «workout c» sirca 1992. do i need to (re-)learn c? nope. but the thought that i could without having to subject myself to this new internet trend is warming.

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                        • daojoan@mastodon.socialD daojoan@mastodon.social

                          The worst thing about online learning is that everything has become a video. Every code tutorial. Every design tutorial. Nobody actually writes out a guide anymore. It's just "hey guys welcome to my tutorial" and watching 10 minutes of content that isn't remotely relevant...

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                          @Daojoan I can't agree more! I in particular do best learning through text and am good at scanning a document quickly to find what I need. I hate watching videos produced by amateurs with annoying speaking habits who spend the whole video drawing imaginary circles with their cursor around the menu item they are talking about!

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                          • daojoan@mastodon.socialD daojoan@mastodon.social

                            The worst thing about online learning is that everything has become a video. Every code tutorial. Every design tutorial. Nobody actually writes out a guide anymore. It's just "hey guys welcome to my tutorial" and watching 10 minutes of content that isn't remotely relevant...

                            pitrh@mastodon.socialP This user is from outside of this forum
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                            @Daojoan I only recently started realizing that more often than not, people are surprised to find that for the presentations I give, there usually is a full text written version, and that the references are links to actual text resources.

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                            • elricofmelnibone@mastodon.socialE elricofmelnibone@mastodon.social

                              @Daojoan I blame the platforms (Coursera, Udemy, etc). They all enable mediocre quality video peddlers to make a fair amount of money.

                              A course-creation/monetization platform that didn't rely on video would probably be beneficial.

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                              @elricofmelnibone @Daojoan and now you can't even audit the courses without paying, so good luck deciding from the bot comments if the course is actually legit or just an over-stretched, poorly-explained mess encouraging the use of the outdated tools!

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                              • fenixmaster@mastodon.socialF fenixmaster@mastodon.social

                                @Daojoan We should just return to minimal text pages. No beautiful design, just straight to the point information.

                                hostia@defcon.socialH This user is from outside of this forum
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                                #50

                                @fenixmaster @Daojoan you know it's bad when browsing documentation feels refreshing

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                                • daojoan@mastodon.socialD daojoan@mastodon.social

                                  The worst thing about online learning is that everything has become a video. Every code tutorial. Every design tutorial. Nobody actually writes out a guide anymore. It's just "hey guys welcome to my tutorial" and watching 10 minutes of content that isn't remotely relevant...

                                  ypsilenna@mastodon.greenY This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  #51

                                  @Daojoan I agree. I usually put extra time into searching for text-based alternatives to these videos

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                                  • stevefenton@mastodon.socialS stevefenton@mastodon.social

                                    @Daojoan

                                    "How to save your Google Doc"

                                    00:00 Why digital files need to be saved
                                    07:24 A history of save icons
                                    23:32 Formats used by different office tools
                                    31:56 Famous errors caused by not saving files
                                    58:45 Saving files in Google Docs

                                    And all to say "they save automatically".

                                    Like and subscribe!

                                    gumnos@mastodon.bsd.cafeG This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    @stevefenton

                                    accurate, except for missing the multiple unskippable advertising breaks 😆

                                    @Daojoan

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                                    • daojoan@mastodon.socialD daojoan@mastodon.social

                                      The worst thing about online learning is that everything has become a video. Every code tutorial. Every design tutorial. Nobody actually writes out a guide anymore. It's just "hey guys welcome to my tutorial" and watching 10 minutes of content that isn't remotely relevant...

                                      mvrenselaar@mastodon.nlM This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      #53

                                      @Daojoan this!! #annoying

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                                      • gumnos@mastodon.bsd.cafeG gumnos@mastodon.bsd.cafe

                                        @stevefenton

                                        accurate, except for missing the multiple unskippable advertising breaks 😆

                                        @Daojoan

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                                        #54

                                        @gumnos @Daojoan hahaha!

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                                        • daojoan@mastodon.socialD daojoan@mastodon.social

                                          The worst thing about online learning is that everything has become a video. Every code tutorial. Every design tutorial. Nobody actually writes out a guide anymore. It's just "hey guys welcome to my tutorial" and watching 10 minutes of content that isn't remotely relevant...

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                                          @Daojoan what might help is to try different search engines that focus on blogs and lower the ranking based on ads and tracking.

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                                          Search My Site - Open source search engine and search as a service for personal and independent websites

                                          searchmysite.net - the open source search engine and search as a service for user-submitted personal and independent websites

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                                          Kagi Search - A Premium Search Engine

                                          Better search results with no ads. Welcome to Kagi (pronounced kah-gee), a paid search engine that gives power back to the user.

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                                          Mojeek

                                          Mojeek is a web search engine that provides unbiased, fast, and relevant search results combined with a no tracking privacy policy.

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                                          Mwmbl - Search

                                          The free, open-source and non-profit search engine.

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                                          The big two trackers (google & bing) actively give big tech and ads supported websites higher ratings, leaving independent blogs in the dust, at page 8.

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