Time for a #discord alternatives thread, for no particular reason.
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@mdiluz for now, look at the draupnir documentation, especially the protections list and concepts, like policy lists. It begins here
https://the-draupnir-project.github.io/draupnir-documentation/moderator/setting-up-and-configuring
About power levels and join rules, that stuff is mostly learned by doing, I dk of any well put together resource for specifically this, but as I said, those are kinda hacky and that's more of a last resort thing, use powerlevels and join rules responsibly, but most of those mechanisms should be performed with your moderation bot of choice. If you want certain features or need help with something you want to do but don't know how, feel free to go in the community, the draupnir room is public and available even in the matrix.org room directory, but I can provide a link if you can't find it on the site or in the directory@esoteric_programmer love it, thanks. Will absolutely be getting to know draupnir
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@mdiluz @philipdrobar it's really only a few bucks for a "lifetime" and it can be purchased directly without involvement of e.g. the Google App Store. It's also available as direct download or on F-Droid. That is quite something in that space and sure keeps all the damn spam/scam bots out.
It was also sold [again] this year: https://comitiscapital.com/news/comitis-capital-announces-the-acquisition-of-threema
Jury is still out but since when does this mean any good for users.
@bekopharm @philipdrobar I guess I should clarify. For me I'm totally fine paying for something (I've now paid for Threema to try it out!) but I want communities to be open and have minimal barriers of entry.
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@bekopharm @philipdrobar I guess I should clarify. For me I'm totally fine paying for something (I've now paid for Threema to try it out!) but I want communities to be open and have minimal barriers of entry.
@mdiluz good point. It's a rather good alternative to anything else tied to a phone number though. And to this date I got zero spam over this, thanks to that entry fee I guess.
Indeed not really for the scope of the discussion.
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@mdiluz Delta Chat is another option.
@KarlHeinzHasliP thanks! I came across it but put it under the Signal/Telegram/Threema bucket in that it's not really a community building platform
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@mdiluz good point. It's a rather good alternative to anything else tied to a phone number though. And to this date I got zero spam over this, thanks to that entry fee I guess.
Indeed not really for the scope of the discussion.
@mdiluz shower though: YT is doing the same btw. More slowly but definitely also moving in this direction.
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First, Rocket Chat.
* Fully released
* Paid after 50 users
* Open Source
* Self-hostable*
* No E2E
* Supports calls
* No web clientThis one had so much promise, but from what I can tell is enshittifying in a similar vein to Discord. Not being free beyond 50 users even if you self-host is just very weird to me for an Open Source project and I don't think I can get past that.
@mdiluz
Rocket Chat's limitation on number of users only applies if you sign up to their "free plan". If you don't (and this is fairly hard to navigate, my biggest gripe with rocketchat) you can have as many users you like at the cost of not having some features that I've never missed over the last 6 years. -
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Rocket Chat's limitation on number of users only applies if you sign up to their "free plan". If you don't (and this is fairly hard to navigate, my biggest gripe with rocketchat) you can have as many users you like at the cost of not having some features that I've never missed over the last 6 years.@maswan oh interesting - I didn't discover this when looking into it - what're the limitations?
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@maswan oh interesting - I didn't discover this when looking into it - what're the limitations?
@mdiluz The "plan" is listed as "Community" if you don't sign up to any of the plans. There is a limit to the number of push notifications (but it is fairly high unless you have a culture where you like phones beeping for every message), and then there is some junk like "premium omnichannel" (whatever that is), "premium apps", etc.
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@mdiluz The "plan" is listed as "Community" if you don't sign up to any of the plans. There is a limit to the number of push notifications (but it is fairly high unless you have a culture where you like phones beeping for every message), and then there is some junk like "premium omnichannel" (whatever that is), "premium apps", etc.
@mdiluz From memory the limit on notifications is 10k/month.
Also I clicked around a bit, and it is very corporate features that are missing, like "engagement dashboard" and "device management".
So my biggest gripe is how hard they work at hiding this mode of operation, and a little bit of worry about what the future might bring in this regard.
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@mdiluz From memory the limit on notifications is 10k/month.
Also I clicked around a bit, and it is very corporate features that are missing, like "engagement dashboard" and "device management".
So my biggest gripe is how hard they work at hiding this mode of operation, and a little bit of worry about what the future might bring in this regard.
@maswan I'm kind of surprised a fork hasn't popped up tbh. Anyway yeah thanks for the info?
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