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  • goog@gabboman.xyzG goog@gabboman.xyz

    @aral@mastodon.ar.al @mynameistillian@plush.city

    to any dumbass reporting this post, a simple google search would have spared you the effort of reporting what's a known meme on the polish side of internet

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    Kamil Tumulec – Wikipedia, wolna encyklopedia

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    go care about actual doxxing that happens on your very own cesspool instead of getting mad over a photo of an ID that might as well never really exist

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    @goog @aral @mynameistillian report za tumulca 🥀
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    • eregloch@mastodon.coffeeE eregloch@mastodon.coffee

      @aral

      @lain
      Since I read the info on the verification process, supposedly fully on device, and user name options (real or something else) for now I tend to give it the benefit of doubt. It might even reduce malicious fake accounts.

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      @EregLoch@mastodon.coffee @aral@mastodon.ar.al @lain@lain.com if the verification is truly fully on device, then in theory someone can just spoof the results that get sent back to the server and pretend theyre a real person, which completely defeats the point

      the only way ID verification truly works is when there is some external server doing the verification, which of course has its own even worse problems

      there is no way to make ID verification both private and trustworthy, the two are fundamentally interlinked, so theres no point even entertaining the idea either way

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      • vonkordke@social.vivaldi.netV vonkordke@social.vivaldi.net

        @hsza @lain @aral
        Do you care what monkeys screams when you go near their cage in the zoo? Me neither

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        @vonKordke @lain @aral pspspspspspsps monkey

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        • hsza@social.tudbut.deH hsza@social.tudbut.de

          @vonKordke @lain @aral pspspspspspsps monkey

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          #55

          @vonKordke @aral @lain thats right i dont actually care youve proven you’re not worth listening to heh

          just trolling for the entertainment value now

          vonkordke@social.vivaldi.netV khaleer@mastodon.gamedev.placeK 2 Replies Last reply
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          • hsza@social.tudbut.deH hsza@social.tudbut.de

            @vonKordke @aral @lain thats right i dont actually care youve proven you’re not worth listening to heh

            just trolling for the entertainment value now

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            @hsza @lain @aral

            Not "not worth listening". You just can't understand nor accept different opinions. But that's fine. Not everybody can be open minded.

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            • aral@mastodon.ar.alA aral@mastodon.ar.al

              Scan your passport to join our social network.

              Don’t worry, it’s European.

              Needless to say, unless you’re a complete and utter fool, do not join W and warn your friends not to join W either.

              #EU #europe #W #socialNetwork #identityVerification #surveillance #privacy #humanRights #democracy #data @lain https://lain.com/objects/aaa7d9d6-331b-4a59-aeda-b2badafc15c3

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              #57

              @aral @lain@lain.com as it was said: mr gorbachev, tear that bullshit down

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              • aral@mastodon.ar.alA aral@mastodon.ar.al

                Scan your passport to join our social network.

                Don’t worry, it’s European.

                Needless to say, unless you’re a complete and utter fool, do not join W and warn your friends not to join W either.

                #EU #europe #W #socialNetwork #identityVerification #surveillance #privacy #humanRights #democracy #data @lain https://lain.com/objects/aaa7d9d6-331b-4a59-aeda-b2badafc15c3

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                @aral @lain 😂😂I don't have a passport

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                • crv@akkoma.kruhlovo.xyzC crv@akkoma.kruhlovo.xyz
                  @goog @aral @mynameistillian report za tumulca 🥀
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                  #59

                  @crv@akkoma.kruhlovo.xyz @aral@mastodon.ar.al @mynameistillian@plush.city

                  tylko na fedi takie kwiatki

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                  • goog@gabboman.xyzG goog@gabboman.xyz

                    @crv@akkoma.kruhlovo.xyz @aral@mastodon.ar.al @mynameistillian@plush.city

                    tylko na fedi takie kwiatki

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                    @goog @aral @mynameistillian tumuLec fedi meta
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                    • aral@mastodon.ar.alA aral@mastodon.ar.al

                      Scan your passport to join our social network.

                      Don’t worry, it’s European.

                      Needless to say, unless you’re a complete and utter fool, do not join W and warn your friends not to join W either.

                      #EU #europe #W #socialNetwork #identityVerification #surveillance #privacy #humanRights #democracy #data @lain https://lain.com/objects/aaa7d9d6-331b-4a59-aeda-b2badafc15c3

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                      #61

                      @aral on a somewhat related note LinkedIn wants me to upload my ID to be able to close my account because I do not agree with uploading my ID to continue to use it… and you need an unblocked account to contact the DPO to exercise your rights which implies… uploading the ID. Kind of a catch-22

                      timwardcam@c.imT blogdiva@mastodon.socialB holdenweb@freeradical.zoneH bard@asphodel.ripB freci@piaille.frF 5 Replies Last reply
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                      • causeofbsod@wetdry.worldC causeofbsod@wetdry.world

                        @EregLoch @aral @lain@lain.com if the verification is entirely on-device then it is likely trivial to spoof with some work in ghidra.

                        rule 1 of computer security: the client is untrustworthy

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                        @CauseOfBSOD

                        @aral
                        You are missing rule 2: the server is untrustworthy. In networking any system can be malignant or hacked and become malignant. Assuming otherwise is failure in the waiting.

                        (Rule 3: use open source and invite the world to find vulnerabilities)

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                        • aral@mastodon.ar.alA aral@mastodon.ar.al

                          Scan your passport to join our social network.

                          Don’t worry, it’s European.

                          Needless to say, unless you’re a complete and utter fool, do not join W and warn your friends not to join W either.

                          #EU #europe #W #socialNetwork #identityVerification #surveillance #privacy #humanRights #democracy #data @lain https://lain.com/objects/aaa7d9d6-331b-4a59-aeda-b2badafc15c3

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                          @aral @lain Lsocial lol

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                          • aral@mastodon.ar.alA aral@mastodon.ar.al

                            Scan your passport to join our social network.

                            Don’t worry, it’s European.

                            Needless to say, unless you’re a complete and utter fool, do not join W and warn your friends not to join W either.

                            #EU #europe #W #socialNetwork #identityVerification #surveillance #privacy #humanRights #democracy #data @lain https://lain.com/objects/aaa7d9d6-331b-4a59-aeda-b2badafc15c3

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                            @aral thank you for speaking up! Also see @_elena's post: https://mastodon.social/@_elena/116537351402947996

                            @lain

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                            • eregloch@mastodon.coffeeE eregloch@mastodon.coffee

                              @CauseOfBSOD

                              @aral
                              You are missing rule 2: the server is untrustworthy. In networking any system can be malignant or hacked and become malignant. Assuming otherwise is failure in the waiting.

                              (Rule 3: use open source and invite the world to find vulnerabilities)

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                              @EregLoch @aral seems i need to make my argument explicit as youve clearly misunderstood

                              We know that the client is not guaranteed to be trustworthy from the perspective of the server. We assume that the identity verification is done on the client only as stated. Per this assumption that means that the result of the verification is sent back as some form of yes/no (coupled with a name to be matched on the server, in case of success) or similar, without any other data that would allow the verification to be repeated on the server being sent back. As the client may be untrustworthy, it may manipulate the verification process or just send back modified data from a recorded successful verification with the attackers preferred values. Therefore, we can conclude that it is trivially possible to create fake accounts unless the assumption is false.

                              Whether or not the server is trustworthy is irrelevant to this attack.

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                              • causeofbsod@wetdry.worldC causeofbsod@wetdry.world

                                @EregLoch @aral seems i need to make my argument explicit as youve clearly misunderstood

                                We know that the client is not guaranteed to be trustworthy from the perspective of the server. We assume that the identity verification is done on the client only as stated. Per this assumption that means that the result of the verification is sent back as some form of yes/no (coupled with a name to be matched on the server, in case of success) or similar, without any other data that would allow the verification to be repeated on the server being sent back. As the client may be untrustworthy, it may manipulate the verification process or just send back modified data from a recorded successful verification with the attackers preferred values. Therefore, we can conclude that it is trivially possible to create fake accounts unless the assumption is false.

                                Whether or not the server is trustworthy is irrelevant to this attack.

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                                @EregLoch If you have an actual counterargument (i.e. not another non sequitur) then now is the time to present it

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                                • aral@mastodon.ar.alA aral@mastodon.ar.al

                                  Scan your passport to join our social network.

                                  Don’t worry, it’s European.

                                  Needless to say, unless you’re a complete and utter fool, do not join W and warn your friends not to join W either.

                                  #EU #europe #W #socialNetwork #identityVerification #surveillance #privacy #humanRights #democracy #data @lain https://lain.com/objects/aaa7d9d6-331b-4a59-aeda-b2badafc15c3

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                                  #67

                                  @aral
                                  Look. No matter who's running it, or where it's hosted, if it's run for profit, you're the product. It's as simple as that.
                                  Just stay the fuck away from it.
                                  @lain

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                                  • freci@piaille.frF freci@piaille.fr

                                    @aral on a somewhat related note LinkedIn wants me to upload my ID to be able to close my account because I do not agree with uploading my ID to continue to use it… and you need an unblocked account to contact the DPO to exercise your rights which implies… uploading the ID. Kind of a catch-22

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                                    @freci @aral Same with Twitter. So my account there still exists but has been abandoned for some years.

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                                    • freci@piaille.frF freci@piaille.fr

                                      @aral on a somewhat related note LinkedIn wants me to upload my ID to be able to close my account because I do not agree with uploading my ID to continue to use it… and you need an unblocked account to contact the DPO to exercise your rights which implies… uploading the ID. Kind of a catch-22

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                                      @freci @aral class action lawsuit. they do it on purpose because they know individuals won't sue them.

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                                      • timwardcam@c.imT timwardcam@c.im

                                        @freci @aral Same with Twitter. So my account there still exists but has been abandoned for some years.

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                                        @TimWardCam @freci Oh, I reported Twitter to the Irish DPO as they don’t actually delete accounts regardless.

                                        Went nowhere.

                                        CC @noybeu

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                                          @Zeb@merovingian.club @lain You and your antisemitic account can fuck right off. Go! Shoo!

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