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We've come to an icky time in security when the concern about using outdated, unpatched software starts to become overshadowed by the fear of downloading some backdoored update.

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  • briankrebs@infosec.exchangeB briankrebs@infosec.exchange

    We've come to an icky time in security when the concern about using outdated, unpatched software starts to become overshadowed by the fear of downloading some backdoored update.

    noplasticshower@infosec.exchangeN This user is from outside of this forum
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    @briankrebs I guess the only real answer is building secure software in the first place

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    • briankrebs@infosec.exchangeB briankrebs@infosec.exchange

      We've come to an icky time in security when the concern about using outdated, unpatched software starts to become overshadowed by the fear of downloading some backdoored update.

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      @briankrebs

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      • briankrebs@infosec.exchangeB briankrebs@infosec.exchange

        We've come to an icky time in security when the concern about using outdated, unpatched software starts to become overshadowed by the fear of downloading some backdoored update.

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        @briankrebs Return to abacus.

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        • briankrebs@infosec.exchangeB briankrebs@infosec.exchange

          We've come to an icky time in security when the concern about using outdated, unpatched software starts to become overshadowed by the fear of downloading some backdoored update.

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          @briankrebs this vibe is perfectly captured in Benn Jordan's video about finding malware in UniTree robot dogs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lA8WuXDXfcI

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          • briankrebs@infosec.exchangeB briankrebs@infosec.exchange

            We've come to an icky time in security when the concern about using outdated, unpatched software starts to become overshadowed by the fear of downloading some backdoored update.

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            @briankrebs doesn't this mean that a motivated bad actor could compromise Microsoft/Apple/Google/Amazon and break the world? Stongarm the nerds, then push out some diabolical patch.

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            • sraars@hippodon.comS sraars@hippodon.com

              @briankrebs Return to abacus.

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              @sraars "someone stole the beads!" 😆 @briankrebs

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              • docpop@mastodon.socialD docpop@mastodon.social

                @briankrebs this vibe is perfectly captured in Benn Jordan's video about finding malware in UniTree robot dogs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lA8WuXDXfcI

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                @docpop @briankrebs Benn Jordan is a national treasure.

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                • briankrebs@infosec.exchangeB briankrebs@infosec.exchange

                  We've come to an icky time in security when the concern about using outdated, unpatched software starts to become overshadowed by the fear of downloading some backdoored update.

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                  @briankrebs i feel like a lesson from xz was that it's actually good if there exist professional nerds whose needs are met and who aren't overworked or micromanaged so they have the space to needle and poke things. i'm sure someone with a linkedin acct is going "ai could fix this" but we're this deep into ai and this fix is apparently arriving on the same schedule as that exponential rise in software quality

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                  • briankrebs@infosec.exchangeB briankrebs@infosec.exchange

                    We've come to an icky time in security when the concern about using outdated, unpatched software starts to become overshadowed by the fear of downloading some backdoored update.

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                    For a while now I've been waiting a couple of days to let everyone else try the updates first, unless it's to patch something specific. What happens if everyone starts waiting for everyone else?

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                    • kirakira@furry.engineerK kirakira@furry.engineer

                      @briankrebs i feel like a lesson from xz was that it's actually good if there exist professional nerds whose needs are met and who aren't overworked or micromanaged so they have the space to needle and poke things. i'm sure someone with a linkedin acct is going "ai could fix this" but we're this deep into ai and this fix is apparently arriving on the same schedule as that exponential rise in software quality

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                      @kirakira all valid. I feel like we have learned 1000 lessons since xz on how not to do software security, most especially with countless devs having their NPM and/or GitHub repos completely pwned or silently backdoored. This is happening on a somewhat industrial scale from a variety of threat actors in real time, and some of them are finding great success in subverting the pipelines of companies that sell security software!

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                      • notasnek@infosec.exchangeN notasnek@infosec.exchange

                        @briankrebs doesn't this mean that a motivated bad actor could compromise Microsoft/Apple/Google/Amazon and break the world? Stongarm the nerds, then push out some diabolical patch.

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                        @notasnek @briankrebs *cough* 20240718 *cough* as a PoC for that?

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                        • briankrebs@infosec.exchangeB briankrebs@infosec.exchange

                          We've come to an icky time in security when the concern about using outdated, unpatched software starts to become overshadowed by the fear of downloading some backdoored update.

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                          @briankrebs Thus has been my icky time for some years now.. 😩

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                          • briankrebs@infosec.exchangeB briankrebs@infosec.exchange

                            We've come to an icky time in security when the concern about using outdated, unpatched software starts to become overshadowed by the fear of downloading some backdoored update.

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                            @briankrebs As it was foretold...

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                            • briankrebs@infosec.exchangeB briankrebs@infosec.exchange

                              We've come to an icky time in security when the concern about using outdated, unpatched software starts to become overshadowed by the fear of downloading some backdoored update.

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                              @briankrebs
                              You have reminded me that I need a new phone. Damn.

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                              • briankrebs@infosec.exchangeB briankrebs@infosec.exchange

                                We've come to an icky time in security when the concern about using outdated, unpatched software starts to become overshadowed by the fear of downloading some backdoored update.

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                                @briankrebs

                                Is it the point in history where we go back to the Commodore 64?

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                                • briankrebs@infosec.exchangeB briankrebs@infosec.exchange

                                  We've come to an icky time in security when the concern about using outdated, unpatched software starts to become overshadowed by the fear of downloading some backdoored update.

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                                  @briankrebs

                                  I anyway have #UpdateAngst all the time because of new bugs, loss personal data like bookmarks/favourites, worse interfaces, more ads, the usual enshitification, and now backdoors. 🥳

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                                  • briankrebs@infosec.exchangeB briankrebs@infosec.exchange

                                    We've come to an icky time in security when the concern about using outdated, unpatched software starts to become overshadowed by the fear of downloading some backdoored update.

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                                    @briankrebs redundant “backdoored” in there

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                                    • briankrebs@infosec.exchangeB briankrebs@infosec.exchange

                                      We've come to an icky time in security when the concern about using outdated, unpatched software starts to become overshadowed by the fear of downloading some backdoored update.

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                                      @briankrebs Well said!

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                                      • briankrebs@infosec.exchangeB briankrebs@infosec.exchange

                                        We've come to an icky time in security when the concern about using outdated, unpatched software starts to become overshadowed by the fear of downloading some backdoored update.

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                                        @briankrebs I've been feeling this lately with regards to most software updates (for personal usage), continuous enshittification is a factor too

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                                        • briankrebs@infosec.exchangeB briankrebs@infosec.exchange

                                          We've come to an icky time in security when the concern about using outdated, unpatched software starts to become overshadowed by the fear of downloading some backdoored update.

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                                          @briankrebs

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