maintainers treating me like an adult online is how i got my first open source contribution actually https://pizza.enby.city/@domo/116489839281295297 maybe we shouldn't treat users differently based upon their assumed age how about that
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maintainers treating me like an adult online is how i got my first open source contribution actually https://pizza.enby.city/@domo/116489839281295297 maybe we shouldn't treat users differently based upon their assumed age how about that
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maintainers treating me like an adult online is how i got my first open source contribution actually https://pizza.enby.city/@domo/116489839281295297 maybe we shouldn't treat users differently based upon their assumed age how about that
@hipsterelectron I'm perpetually baffled by people who are roughly my age (or within maybe 5-10 years) who want to filter out children from their existence anywhere (online and offline). Most of us benefited from that online anonymity of people we talked to not really knowing how old we were (while maybe being able to recognise that we weren't adults, though not really calling us out for it) and engaging with people who helped us learn and grow.
Hell, even when people did know how old we were (again, online/offline), we largely benefited from being able to still engage with them and learn... whatever. I spent so much time in free workshops (at first with my mom, then without her when I saw something I liked that she didn't) that, while they didn't prohibit children, weren't made for children... but I loved that so much, and the people running them made me feel welcome and like an equal participant.
This whole "silo the kids into kid-focused [surveillance] spaces" is so bizarre to me.
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@hipsterelectron I'm perpetually baffled by people who are roughly my age (or within maybe 5-10 years) who want to filter out children from their existence anywhere (online and offline). Most of us benefited from that online anonymity of people we talked to not really knowing how old we were (while maybe being able to recognise that we weren't adults, though not really calling us out for it) and engaging with people who helped us learn and grow.
Hell, even when people did know how old we were (again, online/offline), we largely benefited from being able to still engage with them and learn... whatever. I spent so much time in free workshops (at first with my mom, then without her when I saw something I liked that she didn't) that, while they didn't prohibit children, weren't made for children... but I loved that so much, and the people running them made me feel welcome and like an equal participant.
This whole "silo the kids into kid-focused [surveillance] spaces" is so bizarre to me.
@whatanerd @hipsterelectron right? like... don't pull the ladder up after you!
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@hipsterelectron I'm perpetually baffled by people who are roughly my age (or within maybe 5-10 years) who want to filter out children from their existence anywhere (online and offline). Most of us benefited from that online anonymity of people we talked to not really knowing how old we were (while maybe being able to recognise that we weren't adults, though not really calling us out for it) and engaging with people who helped us learn and grow.
Hell, even when people did know how old we were (again, online/offline), we largely benefited from being able to still engage with them and learn... whatever. I spent so much time in free workshops (at first with my mom, then without her when I saw something I liked that she didn't) that, while they didn't prohibit children, weren't made for children... but I loved that so much, and the people running them made me feel welcome and like an equal participant.
This whole "silo the kids into kid-focused [surveillance] spaces" is so bizarre to me.
@whatanerd you've kinda hit the nail on the head but i'm also excessively weirded out by the insistence that there is a specific form of emotional expression that identifies a child and furthermore is worthy of protection. if you give a shit about not breaking people's dreams, don't fucking do it to anyone, regardless of whether they use fucking emojis
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@whatanerd you've kinda hit the nail on the head but i'm also excessively weirded out by the insistence that there is a specific form of emotional expression that identifies a child and furthermore is worthy of protection. if you give a shit about not breaking people's dreams, don't fucking do it to anyone, regardless of whether they use fucking emojis
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@whatanerd you've kinda hit the nail on the head but i'm also excessively weirded out by the insistence that there is a specific form of emotional expression that identifies a child and furthermore is worthy of protection. if you give a shit about not breaking people's dreams, don't fucking do it to anyone, regardless of whether they use fucking emojis
@hipsterelectron Oh, definitely. And considering some of the people I talk to on a regular basis, it's silly to even try to categorise "person using lots of emojis" as child. (Hell, half of the kids and teens I talk to regularly... don't use emojis in text-based communication? Or do so sparingly.)
I think it's fine to internally think "Hm, this person feels young based on their responses" and consider how you should respond to them, but I also don't think it should mean you talk down to them or undermine them. (For me, this thought only really hits when I mention something, realise it doesn't connect, and then am like... Oh, maybe I'm old? Lol. Which usually makes me think "I feel like I should ask another question so I can engage with them better" or something in that vein.)
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@hipsterelectron Oh, definitely. And considering some of the people I talk to on a regular basis, it's silly to even try to categorise "person using lots of emojis" as child. (Hell, half of the kids and teens I talk to regularly... don't use emojis in text-based communication? Or do so sparingly.)
I think it's fine to internally think "Hm, this person feels young based on their responses" and consider how you should respond to them, but I also don't think it should mean you talk down to them or undermine them. (For me, this thought only really hits when I mention something, realise it doesn't connect, and then am like... Oh, maybe I'm old? Lol. Which usually makes me think "I feel like I should ask another question so I can engage with them better" or something in that vein.)
@whatanerd this is why you're the teacher. really helpful analysis thank you
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maintainers treating me like an adult online is how i got my first open source contribution actually https://pizza.enby.city/@domo/116489839281295297 maybe we shouldn't treat users differently based upon their assumed age how about that
@hipsterelectron @Lunaphied Exactly! We have the ability to be polite, helpful, honest, and respectful to pretty much everyone.
(Except trolls and the like, but we can at least assume good faith at the start.)
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@hipsterelectron @Lunaphied Exactly! We have the ability to be polite, helpful, honest, and respectful to pretty much everyone.
(Except trolls and the like, but we can at least assume good faith at the start.)
@samir @Lunaphied trolls can be handled
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@samir @Lunaphied trolls can be handled
@samir @Lunaphied [scientist walking around lab] over the years we have developed a taxonomy of techniques to identify and respond to troll-based stimuli
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