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#copyfail is why the Forgejo Actions runner service i'm setting up will be using kvm and single shot VMs rather than containers

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  • whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW whitequark@social.treehouse.systems

    #copyfail is why the Forgejo Actions runner service i'm setting up will be using kvm and single shot VMs rather than containers

    chaos@gts.schizofucked.monsterC This user is from outside of this forum
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    @whitequark dunno what copyfail is but we're gonna end up doing the same
    currently working on migration to our alpine+libvirt+scripts hypervisor os on main server specifically to allow for stuff like this
    eventually plan to make a thing to let us do docker compose style services, but as a full VM per service or a container runtime if required

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    • whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW whitequark@social.treehouse.systems

      @thejpster yep, the plan is to do something like that with microVMs (or the closest approximation if the obvious solution is non-viable)

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      @whitequark I suspect you won't be using VMware vSphere and the VMware Perl SDK though 😕

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      • whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW whitequark@social.treehouse.systems

        @janl yes (already underway) and uh want to buy me a motherboard?

        alex@feed.yopp.meA This user is from outside of this forum
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        @whitequark I have my old box collecting dust while waiting for a crazy enough buyer. Im slowly lowering price, but probably it’s not going to be sold in next few months.

        If it’s any use for you in meantime, I can give you direct access to bcm webui so you can do whatever you like with it 🙂

        We can figure out how much of heads up you need in case someone would be willing to buy it. And I have second low power box that can be used for backups

        EPYC 7551P (1gen, 32C/64T) on Gigabyte MZ01-CE1 (with browser based KVM)
        RAM 256G: 8× 32G M393A4K40BB2-CTD DDR4-2666
        NVME 2T: 1× WD Black SN850X
        HDD 12T: 4× 3TB HGST Ultrastar 7K300

        • 2× Tesla P40 (if you are in a mood for messing with sharing gpu with workers)
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        • chaos@gts.schizofucked.monsterC chaos@gts.schizofucked.monster

          @whitequark dunno what copyfail is but we're gonna end up doing the same
          currently working on migration to our alpine+libvirt+scripts hypervisor os on main server specifically to allow for stuff like this
          eventually plan to make a thing to let us do docker compose style services, but as a full VM per service or a container runtime if required

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          @whitequark hoping there is a way to speed up vm launch time though, if you have any resources that might be useful, feel free to send us, medical issues are making it almost impossible for us to focus enough to find resources on how to best do this kinda thing securely and decently

          while we'd love to use xcp-ng, the old kernel / xen kinda limits its use on little guys (fucked cpu freq scaling), and proxmox requires so much host configuration for our weird setups which we'd rather avoid, so making our own embedded style alpine distro with A/B boot specifically for this

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          • wren6991@types.plW wren6991@types.pl

            @whitequark containers: the convenience of a VM and the security of rawdogging userspace 😎

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            whitequark@social.treehouse.systems
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            @wren6991 yep

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            • chaos@gts.schizofucked.monsterC chaos@gts.schizofucked.monster

              @whitequark hoping there is a way to speed up vm launch time though, if you have any resources that might be useful, feel free to send us, medical issues are making it almost impossible for us to focus enough to find resources on how to best do this kinda thing securely and decently

              while we'd love to use xcp-ng, the old kernel / xen kinda limits its use on little guys (fucked cpu freq scaling), and proxmox requires so much host configuration for our weird setups which we'd rather avoid, so making our own embedded style alpine distro with A/B boot specifically for this

              whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW This user is from outside of this forum
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              @chaos firecracker or crosvm is the current plan but i'm not recommending either until i get actual operational experience

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              • thejpster@hachyderm.ioT thejpster@hachyderm.io

                @whitequark I suspect you won't be using VMware vSphere and the VMware Perl SDK though 😕

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                whitequark@social.treehouse.systems
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                @thejpster mercifully, no

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                • alex@feed.yopp.meA alex@feed.yopp.me

                  @whitequark I have my old box collecting dust while waiting for a crazy enough buyer. Im slowly lowering price, but probably it’s not going to be sold in next few months.

                  If it’s any use for you in meantime, I can give you direct access to bcm webui so you can do whatever you like with it 🙂

                  We can figure out how much of heads up you need in case someone would be willing to buy it. And I have second low power box that can be used for backups

                  EPYC 7551P (1gen, 32C/64T) on Gigabyte MZ01-CE1 (with browser based KVM)
                  RAM 256G: 8× 32G M393A4K40BB2-CTD DDR4-2666
                  NVME 2T: 1× WD Black SN850X
                  HDD 12T: 4× 3TB HGST Ultrastar 7K300

                  • 2× Tesla P40 (if you are in a mood for messing with sharing gpu with workers)
                  whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW This user is from outside of this forum
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                  @alex access would help a lot for testing, yeah!

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                  • whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW whitequark@social.treehouse.systems

                    @chaos firecracker or crosvm is the current plan but i'm not recommending either until i get actual operational experience

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                    @whitequark let us know how you get on with em

                    we did some hacking on crosvm and used it a while ago but knowledge gained never sync'd

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                    • chaos@gts.schizofucked.monsterC chaos@gts.schizofucked.monster

                      @whitequark let us know how you get on with em

                      we did some hacking on crosvm and used it a while ago but knowledge gained never sync'd

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                      @chaos ack, I will be sharing it here

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                      • whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW whitequark@social.treehouse.systems

                        #copyfail is why the Forgejo Actions runner service i'm setting up will be using kvm and single shot VMs rather than containers

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                        @whitequark Wow... that one is pretty bad.

                        Guess I'm deleting some kernel modules today.

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                        • thejpster@hachyderm.ioT thejpster@hachyderm.io

                          @whitequark I suspect you won't be using VMware vSphere and the VMware Perl SDK though 😕

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                          @thejpster i have to say Solaris zones are surprisingly slow for this

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                          • whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW whitequark@social.treehouse.systems

                            @alex access would help a lot for testing, yeah!

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                            @whitequark awesome! Gimme some time, I'll prepare everything. How can I reach you to hand over access credentials?

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                            • alex@feed.yopp.meA alex@feed.yopp.me

                              @whitequark awesome! Gimme some time, I'll prepare everything. How can I reach you to hand over access credentials?

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                              @alex whitequark@whitequark.org, you can encrypt to https://codeberg.org/whitequark.keys

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                              • whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW whitequark@social.treehouse.systems

                                #copyfail is why the Forgejo Actions runner service i'm setting up will be using kvm and single shot VMs rather than containers

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                                @whitequark wanna tell me a bit more about that forgejo runner system? 🙂 interested.

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                                • whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW whitequark@social.treehouse.systems

                                  #copyfail is why the Forgejo Actions runner service i'm setting up will be using kvm and single shot VMs rather than containers

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                                  @whitequark What do you use the orchestrate the VMs? Every time I try to do this I end up trying to reinvent half of libvirt.

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                                  • jorijn@toot.communityJ jorijn@toot.community

                                    @whitequark wanna tell me a bit more about that forgejo runner system? 🙂 interested.

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                                    @jorijn it's very much WIP

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                                    • ananas@scicomm.xyzA ananas@scicomm.xyz

                                      @whitequark What do you use the orchestrate the VMs? Every time I try to do this I end up trying to reinvent half of libvirt.

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                                      @ananas nothing specific yet, trying out some stuff

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                                      • whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW whitequark@social.treehouse.systems

                                        @jorijn it's very much WIP

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                                        @whitequark interesting nonetheless, does it resemble https://codeberg.org/forgejo/discussions/issues/152?

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                                        • jorijn@toot.communityJ jorijn@toot.community

                                          @whitequark interesting nonetheless, does it resemble https://codeberg.org/forgejo/discussions/issues/152?

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                                          @jorijn i'm leaving the actual forgejo specific bits until the end, want to see that i can reliably and quickly spawn VMs first

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