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Ageless Linux: Software for humans of indeterminate age.

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  • sirwumpus@tilde.zoneS sirwumpus@tilde.zone

    @nixCraft

    Or if you're a young developer, you download the source, stub out the age tests, and build your own version to install from - you going to sue a teen cause they have skills?

    The whole notion of age verification in open source software where the source of the software is available to modify, is so brain damaged and unenforceable.

    Maybe add age verification as a loadable kernel module. Then people can opt-out or opt-in at the time of install.

    I am amazed that #California of all places, being open to ideas and a hub of technology is parking their brain cells in a handicap zone.

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    @sirwumpus @nixCraft it’s a picket fence with a latched gate.

    Visible boundary that will be used for other things in court.

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    • nixcraft@mastodon.socialN nixcraft@mastodon.social

      Ageless Linux: Software for humans of indeterminate age. We don't know how old you are. We don't want to know. We are legally required to ask. We won't.

      Ageless Linux — Software for Humans of Indeterminate Age

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      @nixCraft I've been looking for an excuse to try out the Milk-V boards. I did not expect it to be this

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      • me@doasu.devM me@doasu.dev
        Heh... That would coincide with the birthday of nigh everyone on Steam 😄

        See: https://web.archive.org/web/20130715011254/http://www.thenobleeskimo.com/steamusers.html
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        @me What a pleasant coincidence!

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        • nixcraft@mastodon.socialN nixcraft@mastodon.social

          Ageless Linux: Software for humans of indeterminate age. We don't know how old you are. We don't want to know. We are legally required to ask. We won't.

          Ageless Linux — Software for Humans of Indeterminate Age

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          @nixCraft @rogue_cells This is fantastic

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          • nixcraft@mastodon.socialN nixcraft@mastodon.social

            Ageless Linux: Software for humans of indeterminate age. We don't know how old you are. We don't want to know. We are legally required to ask. We won't.

            Ageless Linux — Software for Humans of Indeterminate Age

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            @nixCraft in which the flightless bird gang flies the bird at california
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            • nixcraft@mastodon.socialN nixcraft@mastodon.social

              Ageless Linux: Software for humans of indeterminate age. We don't know how old you are. We don't want to know. We are legally required to ask. We won't.

              Ageless Linux — Software for Humans of Indeterminate Age

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              @nixCraft

              Or comply in the worst way.

              aged. Age daemon.

              Reads ~/config/age.conf for self-set date of birth.

              Thats it.

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              • nixcraft@mastodon.socialN nixcraft@mastodon.social

                Ageless Linux: Software for humans of indeterminate age. We don't know how old you are. We don't want to know. We are legally required to ask. We won't.

                Ageless Linux — Software for Humans of Indeterminate Age

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                People here acting like these laws won't just be stillborn, impossible to actually enforce, or challenged in court immediately after they take effect. At least in the US since code is free speech and enacting this on people (especially hobbyist distros) is not only unconstitutional but an anti-trust situation, since clearly this seems to be primarily targeting Microsoft, Apple, and Google. Also there is already a precedent from years ago saying you can't force people to use an operating system they don't want on their own computer and you can't lock a computer to disallow switching it.

                Also its linux, even if its put in its a simple sudo away from active destruction, the old fucks in charge should be wheeled back into the nursing home or shot behind the shed.

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                • nixcraft@mastodon.socialN nixcraft@mastodon.social

                  Ageless Linux: Software for humans of indeterminate age. We don't know how old you are. We don't want to know. We are legally required to ask. We won't.

                  Ageless Linux — Software for Humans of Indeterminate Age

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                  @nixCraft One can assemble your own linux-based operating system from scratch... how's blocking that gonna work?

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                  • sirwumpus@tilde.zoneS sirwumpus@tilde.zone

                    @nixCraft

                    Or if you're a young developer, you download the source, stub out the age tests, and build your own version to install from - you going to sue a teen cause they have skills?

                    The whole notion of age verification in open source software where the source of the software is available to modify, is so brain damaged and unenforceable.

                    Maybe add age verification as a loadable kernel module. Then people can opt-out or opt-in at the time of install.

                    I am amazed that #California of all places, being open to ideas and a hub of technology is parking their brain cells in a handicap zone.

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                    @sirwumpus @nixCraft > you going to sue a teen cause they have skills?

                    Yes, absolutely. Time honored tradition dating back to the late 90's of folks who reported a problem they stumbled across. I worked for a few companies that did that.

                    Strike the shepherd and the sheep will scatter.

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                    • boud@framapiaf.orgB boud@framapiaf.org

                      @nixCraft Here's the #Debian #SystemDCensorD proposal, using D-Bus - "On installation, the user will be required to enter their location. ... This location and user data will be managed by a new daemon, systemd-censord, ... For example, ... a unit for China will implement keyword scans ... debian will need to switch to being a binary-only distribution ... with ... controls to prevent any non-signed software from being installed , written, or compiled, ..."

                      @debian

                      [1] https://lists.debian.org/debian-legal/2026/03/msg00018.html

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                      @boud @nixCraft @debian Is this a goddamn joke?!

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                      • sirwumpus@tilde.zoneS sirwumpus@tilde.zone

                        @nixCraft

                        Or if you're a young developer, you download the source, stub out the age tests, and build your own version to install from - you going to sue a teen cause they have skills?

                        The whole notion of age verification in open source software where the source of the software is available to modify, is so brain damaged and unenforceable.

                        Maybe add age verification as a loadable kernel module. Then people can opt-out or opt-in at the time of install.

                        I am amazed that #California of all places, being open to ideas and a hub of technology is parking their brain cells in a handicap zone.

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                        @sirwumpus @nixCraft As source code has been dragged through the courts and defined as Free Speech in the US any open source based distribution would seem to have the ability to use the constitution against any state based law.

                        IANAL

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                        • gunstick@mastodon.opencloud.luG gunstick@mastodon.opencloud.lu

                          @utf_7 @nixCraft Debian now asks for age on install???

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                          @gunstick @nixCraft i dont think so, but maybe in near future?

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                          • utf_7@mastodon.socialU utf_7@mastodon.social

                            @gunstick @nixCraft i dont think so, but maybe in near future?

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                            @utf_7 @nixCraft from this post I deduce that Debian will never ask for age.
                            But move the responsibility to distros with a faster turnaround. Their LTS goes until 2033.
                            https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2026/03/msg00016.html

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                            • nixcraft@mastodon.socialN nixcraft@mastodon.social

                              Ageless Linux: Software for humans of indeterminate age. We don't know how old you are. We don't want to know. We are legally required to ask. We won't.

                              Ageless Linux — Software for Humans of Indeterminate Age

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                              @nixCraft Aye, going to drop Ubuntu and switch to Ageless Debian. I don't mind if I build up fines in California.

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                              • drwho@masto.hackers.townD drwho@masto.hackers.town

                                @boud @nixCraft @debian Is this a goddamn joke?!

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                                @drwho @nixCraft

                                What I quoted from is a satirical response (not by me - I can't claim the credit) to what was originally a serious proposal to handle a real-world dystopian problem. The satirical proposal doesn't have a [[WP:SNOW]]ball's chance in hell of being accepted. You'll have to follow the thread to see if *some* sort of opt-in proposal gets accepted, or is seen as too dangerous. Maybe adding "ageless-linux" as an opt-in Debian package could be doable.

                                @debian

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                                • boud@framapiaf.orgB boud@framapiaf.org

                                  @drwho @nixCraft

                                  What I quoted from is a satirical response (not by me - I can't claim the credit) to what was originally a serious proposal to handle a real-world dystopian problem. The satirical proposal doesn't have a [[WP:SNOW]]ball's chance in hell of being accepted. You'll have to follow the thread to see if *some* sort of opt-in proposal gets accepted, or is seen as too dangerous. Maybe adding "ageless-linux" as an opt-in Debian package could be doable.

                                  @debian

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                                  @boud @nixCraft @debian It took me a while to figure that out, because it's written so much like the non-fake proposals I couldn't tell. Which is frightening in and of itself.

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                                  • nixcraft@mastodon.socialN nixcraft@mastodon.social

                                    Ageless Linux: Software for humans of indeterminate age. We don't know how old you are. We don't want to know. We are legally required to ask. We won't.

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                                    @nixCraft

                                    Didn't expect this meme to age this well.

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