I've been thinking about the FCC's insane new ban on foreign-made routers.
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I've been thinking about the FCC's insane new ban on foreign-made routers. Note the end of the BBC story at https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c74787w149zo:
"One exception to the general absence of US-made routers is the newer Starlink WiFi router. Starlink is part of Elon Musk's company SpaceX."The company says the Starlink routers are made in Texas."
And per the FCC's FAQ (https://www.fcc.gov/faqs-recent-updates-fcc-covered-list-regarding-routers-produced-foreign-countries), even US-written software (or, I assume, open source software like OpenWRT) won't exempt foreign-made routers from the ban.
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I've been thinking about the FCC's insane new ban on foreign-made routers. Note the end of the BBC story at https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c74787w149zo:
"One exception to the general absence of US-made routers is the newer Starlink WiFi router. Starlink is part of Elon Musk's company SpaceX."The company says the Starlink routers are made in Texas."
And per the FCC's FAQ (https://www.fcc.gov/faqs-recent-updates-fcc-covered-list-regarding-routers-produced-foreign-countries), even US-written software (or, I assume, open source software like OpenWRT) won't exempt foreign-made routers from the ban.
@SteveBellovin Like I've said elsewhere, the current USA-nian administration is playing "Fantasy Supply Chain". TAANSTAFL as Robert Heinlein said
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I've been thinking about the FCC's insane new ban on foreign-made routers. Note the end of the BBC story at https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c74787w149zo:
"One exception to the general absence of US-made routers is the newer Starlink WiFi router. Starlink is part of Elon Musk's company SpaceX."The company says the Starlink routers are made in Texas."
And per the FCC's FAQ (https://www.fcc.gov/faqs-recent-updates-fcc-covered-list-regarding-routers-produced-foreign-countries), even US-written software (or, I assume, open source software like OpenWRT) won't exempt foreign-made routers from the ban.
@SteveBellovin Guessing foreign made computers and phones are next.
Take care of your hardware, everybody. USA is about to embargo itself.
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I've been thinking about the FCC's insane new ban on foreign-made routers. Note the end of the BBC story at https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c74787w149zo:
"One exception to the general absence of US-made routers is the newer Starlink WiFi router. Starlink is part of Elon Musk's company SpaceX."The company says the Starlink routers are made in Texas."
And per the FCC's FAQ (https://www.fcc.gov/faqs-recent-updates-fcc-covered-list-regarding-routers-produced-foreign-countries), even US-written software (or, I assume, open source software like OpenWRT) won't exempt foreign-made routers from the ban.
@SteveBellovin maybe they should ban security perimeter products if they really want to secure the supply chain.
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I've been thinking about the FCC's insane new ban on foreign-made routers. Note the end of the BBC story at https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c74787w149zo:
"One exception to the general absence of US-made routers is the newer Starlink WiFi router. Starlink is part of Elon Musk's company SpaceX."The company says the Starlink routers are made in Texas."
And per the FCC's FAQ (https://www.fcc.gov/faqs-recent-updates-fcc-covered-list-regarding-routers-produced-foreign-countries), even US-written software (or, I assume, open source software like OpenWRT) won't exempt foreign-made routers from the ban.
@SteveBellovin I'm also sure they will use this approval power to extract bribes and political concessions like they have with tiktok, CBS, etc.
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I've been thinking about the FCC's insane new ban on foreign-made routers. Note the end of the BBC story at https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c74787w149zo:
"One exception to the general absence of US-made routers is the newer Starlink WiFi router. Starlink is part of Elon Musk's company SpaceX."The company says the Starlink routers are made in Texas."
And per the FCC's FAQ (https://www.fcc.gov/faqs-recent-updates-fcc-covered-list-regarding-routers-produced-foreign-countries), even US-written software (or, I assume, open source software like OpenWRT) won't exempt foreign-made routers from the ban.
@SteveBellovin @fsinn correct.
The way the order is written, they have effectively banned home Internet. There is no such thing as a DOCSIS modem that is not also capable of routing; every fiber ONT is foreign and capable of routing.
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@SteveBellovin @fsinn correct.
The way the order is written, they have effectively banned home Internet. There is no such thing as a DOCSIS modem that is not also capable of routing; every fiber ONT is foreign and capable of routing.
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@SteveBellovin @fsinn correct.
The way the order is written, they have effectively banned home Internet. There is no such thing as a DOCSIS modem that is not also capable of routing; every fiber ONT is foreign and capable of routing.
All the better for controlling media and impeding organized dissent. Iran has been dark, without internet, for how many weeks now?
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@SteveBellovin @rootwyrm @fsinn Wouldn't the need for waivers give the government a huge amount of leverage over ISPs? If you don't cut off people we don't like, we'll withhold your wavier, etc.
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@SteveBellovin @rootwyrm @fsinn Wouldn't the need for waivers give the government a huge amount of leverage over ISPs? If you don't cut off people we don't like, we'll withhold your wavier, etc.
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@SteveBellovin @rootwyrm @fsinn Wouldn't the need for waivers give the government a huge amount of leverage over ISPs? If you don't cut off people we don't like, we'll withhold your wavier, etc.
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I've been thinking about the FCC's insane new ban on foreign-made routers. Note the end of the BBC story at https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c74787w149zo:
"One exception to the general absence of US-made routers is the newer Starlink WiFi router. Starlink is part of Elon Musk's company SpaceX."The company says the Starlink routers are made in Texas."
And per the FCC's FAQ (https://www.fcc.gov/faqs-recent-updates-fcc-covered-list-regarding-routers-produced-foreign-countries), even US-written software (or, I assume, open source software like OpenWRT) won't exempt foreign-made routers from the ban.
@SteveBellovin
Got it! Starlink will be the modern "Volksempfaenger" device for all US citizens. May the rule of proxy guide you - to your next ICE service point
️https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volksempf%C3%A4nger
#musk #starlink #fcc #router #nazi #opensource #fascism #bigtech
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@SteveBellovin @astrashe @fsinn gimme a sec to catch up here; I was talking exactly this with some press folks and it goes MUCH deeper.
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@SteveBellovin @astrashe @fsinn gimme a sec to catch up here; I was talking exactly this with some press folks and it goes MUCH deeper.
@SteveBellovin @astrashe @fsinn basically, any company can apply for a 'conditional approval' from the DoD + DHS - it requires BOTH to approve. This is a bright red flag and a clear signal of intent.
That conditional approval is going to be dependent on one, a bribe. And two, doing whatever the government says. That could be censorship lists. But it could also be mandatory 'age verification' with ID to use the Internet, back doors, wire taps, etc.
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@SteveBellovin @astrashe @fsinn basically, any company can apply for a 'conditional approval' from the DoD + DHS - it requires BOTH to approve. This is a bright red flag and a clear signal of intent.
That conditional approval is going to be dependent on one, a bribe. And two, doing whatever the government says. That could be censorship lists. But it could also be mandatory 'age verification' with ID to use the Internet, back doors, wire taps, etc.
@SteveBellovin @astrashe @fsinn there is no upper bound to the kind of fuckery possible, nor is it possible to overstate the risks. Especially as government-mandated backdoors, stripping anonymity, and breaking encryption has been on the wishlist of every fucking president since Reagan. ESPECIALLY the supposed 'opposition' ones.
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@SteveBellovin @astrashe @fsinn basically, any company can apply for a 'conditional approval' from the DoD + DHS - it requires BOTH to approve. This is a bright red flag and a clear signal of intent.
That conditional approval is going to be dependent on one, a bribe. And two, doing whatever the government says. That could be censorship lists. But it could also be mandatory 'age verification' with ID to use the Internet, back doors, wire taps, etc.
@rootwyrm @astrashe @fsinn Up to a point. It is clearly unconstitutional for the government to require private companies to censor speech—but the trick will be proving it in court. Similarly, the Supreme Court has held that there is a constitutional right to anonymous speech—even Justice Thomas has said so. Again, though, you'd have to prove in court that the restrictions were at government request; private companies can do what they want.
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