You will pry my em dashes from my cold — and dead — hands.
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@arensb @dramypsyd I was thinking wishfully, but with my rational mind I think what you say is accurate. I am more scepical about genAI having uses that justify the costs, but I'm sure there are some once those who care about the financing stop having wet dreams about it.
@robparsons @dramypsyd From what I've seen, it seems pretty good at summarizing long texts.
I'd also love to see the AI learning phase followed by an optimization phase, where a trained model is cleaned up and made more efficient, so that it takes fewer resources to run it. Especially for any model that will be used by many people.
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You will pry my em dashes from my cold — and dead — hands. I had them before AI was conceived and I’ll have them long after it’s gone.
@dramypsyd As someone ruined early on by LaTeX, I can point to a ... well, depends on how you count, but it's got a 30-40+ year history in digital text.
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@divVerent I learned something new today—thank you!
@dramypsyd @divVerent Germans use en-dashes? That's possible, but I'd love some explanation. I see Germans use mostly hyphens or em-dashes, and for "speaking" we have quotation marks (that are different from the English style ones I used just there).
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@dramypsyd @divVerent Germans use en-dashes? That's possible, but I'd love some explanation. I see Germans use mostly hyphens or em-dashes, and for "speaking" we have quotation marks (that are different from the English style ones I used just there).
@jens@social.finkhaeuser.de @dramypsyd@ohai.social By German typography rules, indeed, en-dash with spaces around it is.
I also can confirm that most books do follow that standard.
Germans who write emails or documents though very frequently use the em-dash with spaces around it, or just a single dash and don't care (in my case, I might use it more if it were more convenient to type, like the --- alias most word processors have). -
@dramypsyd @divVerent Germans use en-dashes? That's possible, but I'd love some explanation. I see Germans use mostly hyphens or em-dashes, and for "speaking" we have quotation marks (that are different from the English style ones I used just there).
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@jens@social.finkhaeuser.de @dramypsyd@ohai.social By German typography rules, indeed, en-dash with spaces around it is.
I also can confirm that most books do follow that standard.
Germans who write emails or documents though very frequently use the em-dash with spaces around it, or just a single dash and don't care (in my case, I might use it more if it were more convenient to type, like the --- alias most word processors have).@divVerent @dramypsyd You confused me a little here, but fair enough. I was wondering about your point on *speaking* German, because I don't tend to speak dashes.
So I thought you meant speech/quotation marks. I've encountered German text that used en or em dashes here as well, but that's a fairly rare thing.
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@divVerent @dramypsyd You confused me a little here, but fair enough. I was wondering about your point on *speaking* German, because I don't tend to speak dashes.
So I thought you meant speech/quotation marks. I've encountered German text that used en or em dashes here as well, but that's a fairly rare thing.
@jens@social.finkhaeuser.de @dramypsyd@ohai.social Yeah, sorry - that was a mistake indeed. When I wrote speaking, meant speaking as in using a language, not as in moving one's mouth. But that indeed is not proper and I am sorry for the confusion. -
You will pry my em dashes from my cold — and dead — hands. I had them before AI was conceived and I’ll have them long after it’s gone.
@dramypsyd The problem with using them is now that — if you do — you are suspected of having an LLM ghostwriter. Personally I find their usage clunky.
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@dramypsyd The problem with using them is now that — if you do — you are suspected of having an LLM ghostwriter. Personally I find their usage clunky.
@edwtjo The problem I run into is my writing was used to train LLMs without my consent so sometimes I get flagged for sounding like myself
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@edwtjo The problem I run into is my writing was used to train LLMs without my consent so sometimes I get flagged for sounding like myself
@dramypsyd @edwtjo This is the reason I don't trust those LLM detection tools any more than I trust the LLMs themselves. It's all cheap* parlour tricks.
* Actually, they're rather expensive, but you know what I mean.
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