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I started elementary as a high school student.

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  • alienghic@timeloop.cafeA alienghic@timeloop.cafe

    @drwho @martin_t

    Yes some things sound like conspiracies.

    But sometimes we've got the court cases showing there were intentional conspiracies.

    Straight up funding for a climate denial group was found as an outstanding debt for a bankrupt coal company.

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    By Charles Mandel for the National Observer.

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    The Narwhal (thenarwhal.ca)

    The USA oil companies figured out global warming would happen and threaten catastrophic destruction between 1950 and 1970s.

    Instead of doing anything to move off of oil the funded disinformation groups to block the transition off of oil

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    @alienghic @martin_t I know. I nearly took gigs working for two of them about fifteen years back.

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    • drwho@masto.hackers.townD drwho@masto.hackers.town

      @alienghic @martin_t I know. I nearly took gigs working for two of them about fifteen years back.

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      @drwho @martin_t

      I ended up arguing with Friends of Science on twitter, and their arguments were so bad.

      I remember one of their works included "we cant trust the IPCC report because it was written by people who don't wear suits".

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      • alienghic@timeloop.cafeA alienghic@timeloop.cafe

        @drwho @martin_t

        Yes some things sound like conspiracies.

        But sometimes we've got the court cases showing there were intentional conspiracies.

        Straight up funding for a climate denial group was found as an outstanding debt for a bankrupt coal company.

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        Canadian Climate Denial Group, Friends of Science, Named as Creditor in Coal Giant's Bankruptcy Files | The Narwhal

        By Charles Mandel for the National Observer.

        favicon

        The Narwhal (thenarwhal.ca)

        The USA oil companies figured out global warming would happen and threaten catastrophic destruction between 1950 and 1970s.

        Instead of doing anything to move off of oil the funded disinformation groups to block the transition off of oil

        Link Preview Image
        Home | ExxonKnew

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        (exxonknew.org)

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        @alienghic @drwho

        Yup, many are real. What I was trying to say is that to the average person, it doesn't matter what is true, what matters is whether it sounds true.

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        • alienghic@timeloop.cafeA alienghic@timeloop.cafe

          @martin_t

          There will likely be millions dead due to the USAID cuts.

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          Study: 14 million lives could be lost due to Trump aid cuts

          A new study looks at lives saved by USAID in the past and what the future without the agency will look like.

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          NPR (www.npr.org)

          Trump and his faction support Israel's ethnic cleansing in Gaza

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          Trump’s genocidal plan to ‘clean out’ Gaza was there all along

          The US president has clearly had only Israeli and real estate interests at heart.

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          Al Jazeera (www.aljazeera.com)

          Anti-vaxers are gutting american public health, undermining or even cancelling vaccines to fit with wellness influencer fantasies will also have a significant body count.

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          RFK Jr. moves on vaccines could have broad ramifications for public health, says expert | Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health

          Yonatan Grad, professor of immunology and infectious diseases, comments on the potential impact of recent decisions related to vaccines made by Health and Human Services Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr.

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          Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health (hsph.harvard.edu)

          Anti-vax ideology led to measles vaccine refusal and several hundred documented deaths in the USA.

          Gutting FEMA will lead to more deaths from disasters.

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          Some FEMA staff call out Trump cuts in public letter of dissent

          More than 180 current and former FEMA employees have published a letter warning of potential disaster due to cuts in the agency.

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          AP News (apnews.com)

          Dozens have died in the ICE internment camps

          https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2026/04/16/ice-deaths-under-trump-administration/89645594007/

          ICE stopped paying for prisoner healthcare months ago.

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          ICE stopped paying for detainee medical care as population surged, Ossoff investigation finds widespread neglect

          Records show ICE has stopped paying for detainee medical care as the detained population has nearly doubled, and reports of neglect have mounted.

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          There have been significant outbreaks of COVID, Measles, and Tuberculosis over the past few years in ICE interment camps.

          Oh right, and ICE straight up shot people on camera.

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          @alienghic I wanted to say "killing people directly" but was out of characters. Gotta find a better instance.

          To many people (sounds arrogant but the average person isn't very smart) there's a huge diff between lining people up next to a wall and shooting them vs putting them into a camp and killing them via malnutrition and disease.

          > ICE straight up shot people on camera

          Yup, and I hope the people responsible will be shot in return, though I have little hope of it happening intralegally.

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          • martin_t@mastodon.socialM martin_t@mastodon.social

            @alienghic I wanted to say "killing people directly" but was out of characters. Gotta find a better instance.

            To many people (sounds arrogant but the average person isn't very smart) there's a huge diff between lining people up next to a wall and shooting them vs putting them into a camp and killing them via malnutrition and disease.

            > ICE straight up shot people on camera

            Yup, and I hope the people responsible will be shot in return, though I have little hope of it happening intralegally.

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            @martin_t

            Ah ok. yeah. the character limits.

            A core mastodon inequality.

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            • danirabbit@mastodon.onlineD danirabbit@mastodon.online

              I started elementary as a high school student. When we were building the first versions of our desktop environment, one of our core developers was in high school and his parents accompanied him to the Ubuntu Developer Summit. How many things we have today wouldn’t exist if young people weren’t allowed to participate? The cost of not creating spaces that we can safely share with young people is too high

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              @danirabbit 100% agree. There is a huge range of contributions young people can make (and have made). In all fields, and I do not exaggerate.

              I used to be a special prize judge for the US national science and engineering fair. (Was Westinghouse, then Intel). Every year I was astonished by the work of students who were often very young. One year I met a young woman at the competition, age 13 or so, and she was brilliant. She was there every year with something new. A brain computer interface at age 16! The next year I got her a hosted day at Caltech to hang out, attend some lectures. Not your ordinary college interview. A well known professor of astrophysics told me later that she asked better questions than his graduate students! Caltech offered her a free ride, a stipend, a fully equipped lab, an assistant … she ultimately chose MIT which was closer to her home. She has had a brilliant career.

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              • danirabbit@mastodon.onlineD danirabbit@mastodon.online

                We’ve pushed young people completely out of our public physical spaces and now they’re getting pushed out of our digital spaces as well. Where are they supposed to go?

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                @danirabbit Church, bible studdy, and to their rooms where they are seen but not heard.

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                • alienghic@timeloop.cafeA alienghic@timeloop.cafe

                  @drwho @martin_t

                  I ended up arguing with Friends of Science on twitter, and their arguments were so bad.

                  I remember one of their works included "we cant trust the IPCC report because it was written by people who don't wear suits".

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                  @alienghic @martin_t Ye gods, talk about a crit fail.

                  They weren't really trying there, were they?

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                  • drwho@masto.hackers.townD drwho@masto.hackers.town

                    @alienghic @martin_t Ye gods, talk about a crit fail.

                    They weren't really trying there, were they?

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                    @drwho @martin_t

                    That argument was so bad I was wondering if they were scamming the oil companies.

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                    • danirabbit@mastodon.onlineD danirabbit@mastodon.online

                      I started elementary as a high school student. When we were building the first versions of our desktop environment, one of our core developers was in high school and his parents accompanied him to the Ubuntu Developer Summit. How many things we have today wouldn’t exist if young people weren’t allowed to participate? The cost of not creating spaces that we can safely share with young people is too high

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                      @danirabbit This is very surprising to me because I thought it was a requirement to finish elementary before starting high school.

                      This is a joke, and I’d like to apologize to you for making this joke.

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                      • danirabbit@mastodon.onlineD danirabbit@mastodon.online

                        We’ve pushed young people completely out of our public physical spaces and now they’re getting pushed out of our digital spaces as well. Where are they supposed to go?

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                        @danirabbit simple answer: they aren't. they're supposed to have nothing outside their parents, their school approved reading materials and ,in the cases of a lot of the people pushing this, the church

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                        • tranquillity@mastodon.minionflo.netT tranquillity@mastodon.minionflo.net

                          @danirabbit lock them in the closet until they're 18 (?)

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                          @tranquillity @danirabbit
                          But when they are released at 18, they must be perfectly fitting in members of the society. ☝️

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                          • kawunngg@mastoart.socialK kawunngg@mastoart.social

                            @tranquillity @danirabbit
                            But when they are released at 18, they must be perfectly fitting in members of the society. ☝️

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                            @kawunngg @danirabbit yep, gotta magically figure it out 😆

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                            • danirabbit@mastodon.onlineD danirabbit@mastodon.online

                              We’ve pushed young people completely out of our public physical spaces and now they’re getting pushed out of our digital spaces as well. Where are they supposed to go?

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                              @danirabbit and that question is one that no parent wants to have to ask about their child.

                              When there's no obvious place to exercise an interest in a healthy way, it'll be done in a sketchy place in an unhealthy way.

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                              • danirabbit@mastodon.onlineD danirabbit@mastodon.online

                                We’ve pushed young people completely out of our public physical spaces and now they’re getting pushed out of our digital spaces as well. Where are they supposed to go?

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                                @danirabbit They'll get let into our spaces as long as they do exactly as we say.

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                                • danirabbit@mastodon.onlineD danirabbit@mastodon.online

                                  We’ve pushed young people completely out of our public physical spaces and now they’re getting pushed out of our digital spaces as well. Where are they supposed to go?

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                                  @danirabbit
                                  I’m Rania from Gaza 💔
                                  We lost our home, and now my children and I are living in a fragile tent with no protection from the cold or illness.
                                  Watching my children suffer while I can’t provide even the basics is breaking my heart every single day.
                                  Please don’t leave us alone in this pain 🙏
                                  Even the smallest donation or a simple share could help us survive 🤍

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                                  • danirabbit@mastodon.onlineD danirabbit@mastodon.online

                                    We’ve pushed young people completely out of our public physical spaces and now they’re getting pushed out of our digital spaces as well. Where are they supposed to go?

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                                    @danirabbit We live in a place where the state, and its paid up “elected” agents, look at children like they’re animals to be controlled. Of course, seeing how things are going, our same government does not seem too crazy about the adults, either. Control and profits are the twin evils and motives of our age.

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                                    • danirabbit@mastodon.onlineD danirabbit@mastodon.online

                                      I started elementary as a high school student. When we were building the first versions of our desktop environment, one of our core developers was in high school and his parents accompanied him to the Ubuntu Developer Summit. How many things we have today wouldn’t exist if young people weren’t allowed to participate? The cost of not creating spaces that we can safely share with young people is too high

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                                      @danirabbit Thank you for your and the folks hardwork \o/

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                                      • martin_t@mastodon.socialM martin_t@mastodon.social

                                        @danirabbit I don't think "safely" is even relevant. I had unfiltered access to the net since I was ~12 and I turned out fine. A friend told me she started watching porn when she was 13 and she turned out fine.

                                        Yes, some people end up as NEETs/shut-ins/incels but those are outliers good for clickbait headlines. If we (decisions should be made by people, not politicians) are to restrict freedoms, we need sufficient proof of a causal relationship.

                                        Until them, age-restrictionists can fuck off.

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                                        @martin_t i was thinking of safety more in terms of from predatory adults. In terms of content I wish that our society was focused a lot more on violent content. I’m not a child psychologist but I think being exposed to extreme violence and death is probably not good for anyone to see let alone a child. Being exposed to sexuality as a teen seems vaguely developmentally appropriate. I remember reading gay smut with my friends in class lol

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                                        • danirabbit@mastodon.onlineD danirabbit@mastodon.online

                                          We’ve pushed young people completely out of our public physical spaces and now they’re getting pushed out of our digital spaces as well. Where are they supposed to go?

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                                          @danirabbit Some of the powerful have plans, but I think they've all drunk too deeply of the idea that they can do whatever they want and let the externalities take care of themselves. And what they want is for anyone and anything that questions them or gets in their way to not exist anymore.

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