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  3. the hi hat shuffle work in this song is so poor, producers wrote based on a 6/8 feel but didn’t notice how the 16th note straight hi hats that don’t even line up with the groove, annoys the shit out of me!

the hi hat shuffle work in this song is so poor, producers wrote based on a 6/8 feel but didn’t notice how the 16th note straight hi hats that don’t even line up with the groove, annoys the shit out of me!

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  • nnirror@post.lurk.orgN This user is from outside of this forum
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    the hi hat shuffle work in this song is so poor, producers wrote based on a 6/8 feel but didn’t notice how the 16th note straight hi hats that don’t even line up with the groove, annoys the shit out of me!

    protect bernard purdie from this lazy time keeping!

    https://youtu.be/oIv_Y2RPQ_A?si=sot5-mhFcux9YXjC

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    • nnirror@post.lurk.orgN nnirror@post.lurk.org

      the hi hat shuffle work in this song is so poor, producers wrote based on a 6/8 feel but didn’t notice how the 16th note straight hi hats that don’t even line up with the groove, annoys the shit out of me!

      protect bernard purdie from this lazy time keeping!

      https://youtu.be/oIv_Y2RPQ_A?si=sot5-mhFcux9YXjC

      tsrono@mastodon.socialT This user is from outside of this forum
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      @nnirror good enough song either way ofc...possible that shift was on purpose but who knows other than the producers 🤷‍♂️

      i'm going to hear that shift now tho, thanks for pointing it out 😬

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      • tsrono@mastodon.socialT tsrono@mastodon.social

        @nnirror good enough song either way ofc...possible that shift was on purpose but who knows other than the producers 🤷‍♂️

        i'm going to hear that shift now tho, thanks for pointing it out 😬

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        @tsrono yeah it’s still better than most pop songs! it just detracts from being truly great imho. sounds like a metronome was left on underneath human playing

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        • nnirror@post.lurk.orgN nnirror@post.lurk.org

          @tsrono yeah it’s still better than most pop songs! it just detracts from being truly great imho. sounds like a metronome was left on underneath human playing

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          @nnirror @tsrono haha, my friend Daniel Rogerson plays guitar for her.

          He says she’s really nice to work for. I wish I could enjoy her overall music more (as pop), but somehow the harmonic aspect always leaves me a bit cold.

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          • cognessence@social.linux.pizzaC cognessence@social.linux.pizza

            @nnirror @tsrono haha, my friend Daniel Rogerson plays guitar for her.

            He says she’s really nice to work for. I wish I could enjoy her overall music more (as pop), but somehow the harmonic aspect always leaves me a bit cold.

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            @Cognessence @tsrono oh neat! see this is why i rarely talk shit on the internet.. sounds like i am at most three steps away from whoever is responsible for this hi hat lol

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            • nnirror@post.lurk.orgN nnirror@post.lurk.org

              @Cognessence @tsrono oh neat! see this is why i rarely talk shit on the internet.. sounds like i am at most three steps away from whoever is responsible for this hi hat lol

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              @nnirror @tsrono Haha, I feel you there.

              But now you’ve got me curious - I’ve got to ask about those hi hats. 😝

              (I actually really *want* to like things that friends are involved in that are kicking off - but alas, no sheer amount of listens can enable it. 😬)

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              • cognessence@social.linux.pizzaC cognessence@social.linux.pizza

                @nnirror @tsrono Haha, I feel you there.

                But now you’ve got me curious - I’ve got to ask about those hi hats. 😝

                (I actually really *want* to like things that friends are involved in that are kicking off - but alas, no sheer amount of listens can enable it. 😬)

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                @Cognessence @tsrono 🫣

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                • cognessence@social.linux.pizzaC cognessence@social.linux.pizza

                  @nnirror @tsrono haha, my friend Daniel Rogerson plays guitar for her.

                  He says she’s really nice to work for. I wish I could enjoy her overall music more (as pop), but somehow the harmonic aspect always leaves me a bit cold.

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                  @Cognessence to me that sorta disconnected 'cold' feel that some pop leans into is part of the appeal. it's almost a hyper-perfected version of the standard pop song of the 1900s, taken to extremes. i don't often click with those but this track worked in that context for me (but would i probably really like a warmer, more humanized/live/vulnerable version? probably!)

                  @nnirror

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                  • tsrono@mastodon.socialT tsrono@mastodon.social

                    @Cognessence to me that sorta disconnected 'cold' feel that some pop leans into is part of the appeal. it's almost a hyper-perfected version of the standard pop song of the 1900s, taken to extremes. i don't often click with those but this track worked in that context for me (but would i probably really like a warmer, more humanized/live/vulnerable version? probably!)

                    @nnirror

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                    @tsrono @nnirror That's a really interesting point. I'm not just backtracking - I agree with you in general about that disconnected "cold" feel - paradoxically packaged in something hyperreal / highly produced. It's probably part of why I'm addicted to certain K-Pop tracks! So maximalist and in some respects virtuosic, but so artificial and "cold" too. I too really enjoy that hyper-perfected sound (so it's funny hearing people criticise it for those things. Subjectivity, eh?)

                    It's all good. Humanized/live/vulnerable...disconnected, perfect and cold...why not be open to it all?

                    In terms of Olivia Dean specifically, I do quite like this track as it is a little more restrained and slightly mysterious, and the arrangement is pretty lush:
                    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JN_Vyg_wURY&list=RDJN_Vyg_wURY&start_radio=1

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                    • cognessence@social.linux.pizzaC cognessence@social.linux.pizza

                      @tsrono @nnirror That's a really interesting point. I'm not just backtracking - I agree with you in general about that disconnected "cold" feel - paradoxically packaged in something hyperreal / highly produced. It's probably part of why I'm addicted to certain K-Pop tracks! So maximalist and in some respects virtuosic, but so artificial and "cold" too. I too really enjoy that hyper-perfected sound (so it's funny hearing people criticise it for those things. Subjectivity, eh?)

                      It's all good. Humanized/live/vulnerable...disconnected, perfect and cold...why not be open to it all?

                      In terms of Olivia Dean specifically, I do quite like this track as it is a little more restrained and slightly mysterious, and the arrangement is pretty lush:
                      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JN_Vyg_wURY&list=RDJN_Vyg_wURY&start_radio=1

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                      @Cognessence for sure! no bad way to make music & no accounting for taste - sometimes a style/sound just doesn't vibe w/ someone.

                      liking this track too, i definitely need to give more of her stuff a listen. supporting vocals really make it & add to that mystery.
                      @nnirror

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