Good morning!
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From a Q&A: An important thing to note - as people try to find alternatives to large socials, it doesn't mean it HAS to be federated. Or perhaps just partially federated.
Newsmast is building according to the needs of their communities, and that doesn't always include federation.
There's a lot to say about local community instances. Not EVERYTHING needs to be federated.
Sneak peak mention of a click and point configuration of a community platform from Newsmast, including the app itself with a "Build an App" website.
With that, #FediMTL is on a bit of break. The pup is asking for a walk, and she's a dawdler, so I may not make it back right on time.
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From a Q&A: An important thing to note - as people try to find alternatives to large socials, it doesn't mean it HAS to be federated. Or perhaps just partially federated.
Newsmast is building according to the needs of their communities, and that doesn't always include federation.
There's a lot to say about local community instances. Not EVERYTHING needs to be federated.
@box464 I saw the other day a picture that summed it up pretty well: it was a comparison of centralized, federated and decentralized architectures. Unfortunately I can't remember where it was...
In the centralized one, there is one big circle in the middle (the server) and plenty of links pointing to small dots (the users).
In the federated one, there are "islands" of servers linked together, of different sizes. They aren't all connected to each other, so there can be single ones, smaller groups or a big land, so it kind of makes an archipelago. Local community instances could be like the smaller islands here.
In the decentralized one, each server is connected to everything else, so it is just one big mesh. -
@box464 I saw the other day a picture that summed it up pretty well: it was a comparison of centralized, federated and decentralized architectures. Unfortunately I can't remember where it was...
In the centralized one, there is one big circle in the middle (the server) and plenty of links pointing to small dots (the users).
In the federated one, there are "islands" of servers linked together, of different sizes. They aren't all connected to each other, so there can be single ones, smaller groups or a big land, so it kind of makes an archipelago. Local community instances could be like the smaller islands here.
In the decentralized one, each server is connected to everything else, so it is just one big mesh.@Varpie I think that might be the archipelago concept.
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Sneak peak mention of a click and point configuration of a community platform from Newsmast, including the app itself with a "Build an App" website.
With that, #FediMTL is on a bit of break. The pup is asking for a walk, and she's a dawdler, so I may not make it back right on time.
We're back with @evan - sans mustache. I wasn't ready for this.
He's going back to the basics - Introducing the Fediverse.
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@Varpie I think that might be the archipelago concept.
@box464 It is the same principle, I saw that comparison as a diagram in a documentation website and I can't find it back, but I remember thinking that it was a neat comparison... I should use bookmarks for this kind of situation.
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We're back with @evan - sans mustache. I wasn't ready for this.
He's going back to the basics - Introducing the Fediverse.
Evan asks "Do social networks matter?" - more then 50% of adults check social media daily. And in 2025, more people get their news from social media than new outlets. So, the answer is yes. They do matter!
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Evan asks "Do social networks matter?" - more then 50% of adults check social media daily. And in 2025, more people get their news from social media than new outlets. So, the answer is yes. They do matter!
All of the current big platforms rely on advertising and even moreso, targeted advertising based on your online behavior. So keeping you locked in to their platform is essential so they know even MORE about you.
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All of the current big platforms rely on advertising and even moreso, targeted advertising based on your online behavior. So keeping you locked in to their platform is essential so they know even MORE about you.
Algorithms are optimized to keep you on platform and engaged. Stay here for EVERYTHING. The platform will decide what's important for you in the moment.
Jeff Side Note: I want to re-iterate that algorithms aren't evil in and of themselves - it's the platforms that manipulate you with their algorithms that are the problem.
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Algorithms are optimized to keep you on platform and engaged. Stay here for EVERYTHING. The platform will decide what's important for you in the moment.
Jeff Side Note: I want to re-iterate that algorithms aren't evil in and of themselves - it's the platforms that manipulate you with their algorithms that are the problem.
Evan's not making a great argument for using social media!
52% of users report feeling worse after using social media.
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Evan's not making a great argument for using social media!
52% of users report feeling worse after using social media.
Evan says "We need meaningful choice for our social web. Choosing your own platform, your own client and most importantly, keep your existing connections - the people that matter to you."
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Evan says "We need meaningful choice for our social web. Choosing your own platform, your own client and most importantly, keep your existing connections - the people that matter to you."
How do we pay for the fediverse? Co-ops, subscriptions, donations, even advertising (gasp). They don't have to all be federated with each other - just to the communities that make sense for their needs.
I'm starting to hear this more often. Newsmast group is thinking similarly as well.
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How do we pay for the fediverse? Co-ops, subscriptions, donations, even advertising (gasp). They don't have to all be federated with each other - just to the communities that make sense for their needs.
I'm starting to hear this more often. Newsmast group is thinking similarly as well.
The fediverse does have connections to larger social platforms, showing interest in connecting to the larger audience. Flipboard and Surf are great examples of ways to incorporate fediverse content into mainstream social timelines.
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The fediverse does have connections to larger social platforms, showing interest in connecting to the larger audience. Flipboard and Surf are great examples of ways to incorporate fediverse content into mainstream social timelines.
"We'll know that the fediverse wins...when mainstream media starts showing posts from users in the fediverse rather than X, Facebook, etc."
We've already seen some of this with Bluesky, but he's right, not sure I've seen a Fediverse handle out there yet.
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"We'll know that the fediverse wins...when mainstream media starts showing posts from users in the fediverse rather than X, Facebook, etc."
We've already seen some of this with Bluesky, but he's right, not sure I've seen a Fediverse handle out there yet.
Evan: "Finally, we need policy makers to do the work to require interoperability."
Yep. Canada, you have more of a chance than the U.S.
Jeff Note: Sometimes the policy has to start small - get your local library to crate a fediverse account. Your fire department. Your city hall. Help them get setup if you can.
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Not knowing exactly what the fediverse or open social web is - isn't a bad thing - we have a blank slate. That's a good thing.
How do we introduce normies to the fediverse?
The current fediverse culture isn't as welcoming. And there are UI issues that need to be addressed. Even small UI issues can push people away - an accidental posting of a private post to a public timeline for example.
@box464 Early-stage networks always confuse architecture with culture. Most people don’t need to understand federation any more than they understand SMTP. They need clarity, guardrails, and social proof. Blank slates are fragile. If onboarding feels like joining a protocol instead of a community, churn follows. The leverage isn’t ideology. It’s interface design and default norms. Reduce friction, make privacy clear, and let belonging precede explanation.
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Evan: "Finally, we need policy makers to do the work to require interoperability."
Yep. Canada, you have more of a chance than the U.S.
Jeff Note: Sometimes the policy has to start small - get your local library to crate a fediverse account. Your fire department. Your city hall. Help them get setup if you can.
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Evan: "Finally, we need policy makers to do the work to require interoperability."
Yep. Canada, you have more of a chance than the U.S.
Jeff Note: Sometimes the policy has to start small - get your local library to crate a fediverse account. Your fire department. Your city hall. Help them get setup if you can.
Alright. A little break and then back to it. However, the last session is in French, so again I won't be of much use.
The Next Phase of Qlub, presented by @meadmin
"A look back at one year of Qlub, a presentation of upcoming initiatives, and the launch of the #Culture Channel, a news feed dedicated to Quebec culture."
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Survey of the normal people - "What is the fediverse?". Oh boy. We've got some work to do, y'all. Tho I'd love it if we were all part of an MCU plot.
Open Social fared a bit better than this.
@box464 looks like we need a comic book
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We're back with @evan - sans mustache. I wasn't ready for this.
He's going back to the basics - Introducing the Fediverse.
@box464 you and me both
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Algorithms are optimized to keep you on platform and engaged. Stay here for EVERYTHING. The platform will decide what's important for you in the moment.
Jeff Side Note: I want to re-iterate that algorithms aren't evil in and of themselves - it's the platforms that manipulate you with their algorithms that are the problem.
@box464 I got to that!
