In April 24, Trudi Warner, a retired social worker, stood outside Inner London Crown Court holding a sign that read: "Jurors, you have an absolute right to acquit a defendant according to your conscience"
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The weird thing is... in retrospect, it kinda was. I'm old enough to remember.
@Remittancegirl @runoutgroover @Geri the Thatcher era was great apart from the poverty, unemployment, class war, riots and dissolution of any kind of business law. Oh and the turning the police into the de facto military wing of the Tory party. Apart from that and the fact that long tail of Thatcherism is behind many of the problems we face today not only in this country but all over the world, it was great.
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@Remittancegirl @runoutgroover @Geri the Thatcher era was great apart from the poverty, unemployment, class war, riots and dissolution of any kind of business law. Oh and the turning the police into the de facto military wing of the Tory party. Apart from that and the fact that long tail of Thatcherism is behind many of the problems we face today not only in this country but all over the world, it was great.
Do not fucking straw-man me, Mark. NO ONE is saying it was great.
I have ZERO patience for this kind of zero sum crap.
There is a very convincing argument to be made that many people's lives and futures look far bleaker now than then.
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Do not fucking straw-man me, Mark. NO ONE is saying it was great.
I have ZERO patience for this kind of zero sum crap.
There is a very convincing argument to be made that many people's lives and futures look far bleaker now than then.
@Remittancegirl @runoutgroover @Geri No problem. block me if you wish but I felt agreeing with the term ‘liberal paradise’ was showing some kind of approval of the Thatcher years.
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@Remittancegirl @runoutgroover @Geri No problem. block me if you wish but I felt agreeing with the term ‘liberal paradise’ was showing some kind of approval of the Thatcher years.
You didn't bother to read the nuance in the post - that it was 'almost as if'
In hindsight, at that time, people had better health coverage, could afford housing, free education including university, far, far less state surveillance, much more tolerance for peaceful public protest.
I lived through it. It was grim. But now is also grim. It's grim in different ways. I think it felt more possible to see a brighter future then than it does now.
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You didn't bother to read the nuance in the post - that it was 'almost as if'
In hindsight, at that time, people had better health coverage, could afford housing, free education including university, far, far less state surveillance, much more tolerance for peaceful public protest.
I lived through it. It was grim. But now is also grim. It's grim in different ways. I think it felt more possible to see a brighter future then than it does now.
@Remittancegirl @runoutgroover @Geri thanks for explaining your point of view rather than just rage blocking. I can see you a re saying but I think the not being possible to see a brighter future is more to do with world politics than domestic. Back then we only had nuclear Armageddon and the thee minute warning. Kids now have that AND ecological breakdown and global war. I feel for them.
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@Remittancegirl @runoutgroover @Geri thanks for explaining your point of view rather than just rage blocking. I can see you a re saying but I think the not being possible to see a brighter future is more to do with world politics than domestic. Back then we only had nuclear Armageddon and the thee minute warning. Kids now have that AND ecological breakdown and global war. I feel for them.
@markmason
"think the not being possible to see a brighter future is more to do with world politics than domestic"You could be right. But honestly, I think it is about economics and a lack of sense of the possible, which is really about domestic politics. But I could be wrong.
runoutgroover@cloudisland.nz @Geri
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@Geri All while MPs lie as a matter of daily life.
An insane distortion of values.
@NicelyManifest @Geri the MPs are also largely inebriated, so there's that
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@Remittancegirl @runoutgroover @Geri the Thatcher era was great apart from the poverty, unemployment, class war, riots and dissolution of any kind of business law. Oh and the turning the police into the de facto military wing of the Tory party. Apart from that and the fact that long tail of Thatcherism is behind many of the problems we face today not only in this country but all over the world, it was great.
@markmason @Remittancegirl @runoutgroover @Geri and her being pals with Jimmy Savile
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