677: I Accept the Battery Costhttps://atp.fm/677

[atpfm@mastodon.social]

677: I Accept the Battery Cost
https://atp.fm/677

If you really don’t like AI, we have some bad news for you.

[vnkr@mastodon.social]

@atpfm Cloudflare Zero Trust is a colloquial name for a group of products. Cloudflare Access is part of Zero Trust and it does not require any agent at all. Access can be enabled on any hostname that is either proxied through Cloudflare or being hosted on Cloudflare Workers. And it puts an authentication flow, essentially a login page in front of your application. And you can use external authentication providers to authenticate through this page. 1/2

[vnkr@mastodon.social]

@atpfm For example, you can connect it to Google and allow yourself and your family to use Gmail logins. Or you can integrate it with Pocket ID, which was mentioned on the show. It is a great little tool that allows passkey authentication. Or you can just request a one-time pin to your email address and log in this way.
Access is really easy to set up, doesn't cost you anything unless you want to have a lot of users. Give it a try. 2/2

[vmachiel@mastodon.nl]

@atpfm I know.. im sick and tired of AI everywhere and all the talk about it.. but I get it’s here to stay

[vmachiel@mastodon.nl]

@atpfm it’s just.. we just don’t think about the energy use, all the stuff that was stolen to make it, and how it’s used to mess up society even more. Just because ‘he it works for me’

[siracusa@mastodon.social]

@vmachiel Many people do think about it, including me! And we all should.

[vmachiel@mastodon.nl]

@siracusa yeah sorry I took it out on your post after seeing OMG agent coding posts for the last 36 hours

[starling@keyboards.social]

@atpfm

Skipped ahead to the AI ethics chapter. I think it is important for you all to try this kind of stuff and report on it, but every bit of reporting you do on it should be explaining the horrors of the system. Otherwise you’re whitewashing their crimes and are complicit in the creation of their technofascist state.

It is only inevitable if everyone goes along with it, especially people with such a large platform as y’all. The people have power if we participate in collective action!

[rmorey@mastodon.social]

@atpfm I really appreciate the nuance and bridge-building regarding AI in this episode - every day I feel the AI culture war rising in temperature and it scares me…

[jon@det.social]

@atpfm @caseyliss your snowpocalypse stories seem to suggest that you do in fact care very much about the freezing temperature of water outside, Casey

[caseyliss@mastodon.social]

@jon

this is just about the only pro-Celsius argument I’ve heard that wasn’t utter bullshit

[mpbarlow@mastodon.social]

@atpfm The AI ethics section hurt to listen to.
The industrial revolution example: that may yet lead to the end of habitability for large parts of our planet. The negative externalities affecting people right now are presumably not affecting you all that much yet. “There are huge downsides yes, but we need it for our work” does not feel like an ethical argument when you are well-respected folks with an audience, and when these companies have done absolutely nothing in good faith. I’m sorry.

[colman@mastodon.ie]

@siracusa @vmachiel and yet they (and you) will manage to rationalise using it.

[bnys@lasersword.club]

@DanEngler @atpfm

well on one hand we have a coming financial collapse, mass layoffs, and an ecological disaster cheered on by and enriching the most deranged lunatics in the world.

but at least llms write fantastic, creative code that saves time and is verifiably more secure, and they don't burn dumpsters of money doing a middling job at most things. seems like everyone is just making a mountain out of a mole hill

[v600@mastodon.au]

@atpfm I propose the following one true conversion system.

1 mile = 1.5km
1 lb = 0.5kg (always round down to the nearest significant digit) i.e. both 20 and 21lb = 10kg, 350lb = 170kg
75f = 25c (minus 25 and divide by 2 - always round down. 80f also = 25c. Minutes 30 for oven temperature)

[siracusa@mastodon.social]

@mpbarlow I think I made all the points you mentioned regarding the industrial revolution on the show. Presumably you also use electricity, manufactured products, etc., despite climate change and other ongoing negative externalities. There's no ethical consumption under capitalism.

[avakining@hachyderm.io]

@siracusa @mpbarlow There’s still less-unethical consumption.

There’s a reason the order is reduce, *then* reuse, *then* recycle. Not creating demand or wastage when it’s not needed is better than just giving up/in.

[siracusa@mastodon.social]

@Colman So will you, and everyone else, eventually—for better AND for worse. (See also: electricity, automobiles, modern agriculture, manufactured goods of all kinds, etc.)

[avakining@hachyderm.io]

@v600 @atpfm I mean for miles to kilometres, you just multiply by the golden ratio (or take the next Fibonacci number, so 5 miles ≈ 8 km; 13 mi ≈ 21 km)

[siracusa@mastodon.social]

@avakining @mpbarlow I'm not giving up!