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  3. Stopping the system fans to heat up the system to shift clock phase by a few femtoseconds is one of the less hinged ideas I’ve seen come out of CERN lol.

Stopping the system fans to heat up the system to shift clock phase by a few femtoseconds is one of the less hinged ideas I’ve seen come out of CERN lol.

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  • evey@chaos.socialE evey@chaos.social

    @jaseg @coral This those readout cards are stupidly expensive, next upgrade for HL-LHC they will be upgraded to next gen cards but yea even then.

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    @jaseg @coral See https://indico.belle2.org/event/10782/contributions/74815/attachments/27775/41084/LHCb_Giessen.pdf for some info on how they are used and where they are installed.

    and https://indico.cern.ch/event/681247/contributions/2929079/attachments/1639220/2616679/PCIe40_Common_Readout_for_LHCb_and_Alice.pdf for more card specific info

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    • jaseg@chaos.socialJ jaseg@chaos.social

      Stopping the system fans to heat up the system to shift clock phase by a few femtoseconds is one of the less hinged ideas I’ve seen come out of CERN lol.

      (AFAIU this was an experiment for a software retrofit to hardware otherwise incapable of such adjustments)

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      @jaseg Which kind of implementations could this be used for?

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      • john_ligher@urusai.socialJ john_ligher@urusai.social

        @jaseg Which kind of implementations could this be used for?

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        @John_Ligher I think if you can avoid it there are better ways to achieve the same result. AFAIU this was meant as a retrofit for boards that lacked the necessary circuitry to do this in a nicer way.

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        • jaseg@chaos.socialJ jaseg@chaos.social

          @John_Ligher I think if you can avoid it there are better ways to achieve the same result. AFAIU this was meant as a retrofit for boards that lacked the necessary circuitry to do this in a nicer way.

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          @jaseg I see. Thanks for explaining. ^^

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          • jaseg@chaos.socialJ jaseg@chaos.social

            Stopping the system fans to heat up the system to shift clock phase by a few femtoseconds is one of the less hinged ideas I’ve seen come out of CERN lol.

            (AFAIU this was an experiment for a software retrofit to hardware otherwise incapable of such adjustments)

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            @jaseg@chaos.social Wow, neat.

            Obligatory xkcd:

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            • jaseg@chaos.socialJ jaseg@chaos.social

              Stopping the system fans to heat up the system to shift clock phase by a few femtoseconds is one of the less hinged ideas I’ve seen come out of CERN lol.

              (AFAIU this was an experiment for a software retrofit to hardware otherwise incapable of such adjustments)

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              @jaseg Wat.

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              • jaseg@chaos.socialJ jaseg@chaos.social

                Stopping the system fans to heat up the system to shift clock phase by a few femtoseconds is one of the less hinged ideas I’ve seen come out of CERN lol.

                (AFAIU this was an experiment for a software retrofit to hardware otherwise incapable of such adjustments)

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                @jaseg that's a slick idea ⌚

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                • jaseg@chaos.socialJ jaseg@chaos.social

                  Stopping the system fans to heat up the system to shift clock phase by a few femtoseconds is one of the less hinged ideas I’ve seen come out of CERN lol.

                  (AFAIU this was an experiment for a software retrofit to hardware otherwise incapable of such adjustments)

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                  @jaseg Proper madness from the devs at CERN. I always like it when there is a common goal and someone is like "let me try something ridiculous so it fits our budget." - Vi

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                  • jaseg@chaos.socialJ jaseg@chaos.social

                    Stopping the system fans to heat up the system to shift clock phase by a few femtoseconds is one of the less hinged ideas I’ve seen come out of CERN lol.

                    (AFAIU this was an experiment for a software retrofit to hardware otherwise incapable of such adjustments)

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                    @jaseg how very CERN lol

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                    • jaseg@chaos.socialJ jaseg@chaos.social

                      Stopping the system fans to heat up the system to shift clock phase by a few femtoseconds is one of the less hinged ideas I’ve seen come out of CERN lol.

                      (AFAIU this was an experiment for a software retrofit to hardware otherwise incapable of such adjustments)

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                      @jaseg i think lady heather is doing fan temperature control for timing stuff for a while.

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                      • jaseg@chaos.socialJ jaseg@chaos.social

                        Stopping the system fans to heat up the system to shift clock phase by a few femtoseconds is one of the less hinged ideas I’ve seen come out of CERN lol.

                        (AFAIU this was an experiment for a software retrofit to hardware otherwise incapable of such adjustments)

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                        @jaseg physicists will do anything to gain a few femtoseconds.

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                        • f4grx@chaos.socialF f4grx@chaos.social

                          @jaseg how very CERN lol

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                          @f4grx @jaseg gotta make do! *unhinged hacks ensue*
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                          • jaseg@chaos.socialJ jaseg@chaos.social

                            Stopping the system fans to heat up the system to shift clock phase by a few femtoseconds is one of the less hinged ideas I’ve seen come out of CERN lol.

                            (AFAIU this was an experiment for a software retrofit to hardware otherwise incapable of such adjustments)

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                            @jaseg That's actually not to strange of an idea. Some types of tunable lasers are also tuned via temperature.
                            Also many years ago there was some paper about determining the location of a computer based on the drift of their clock. Essentially the idea was that room temperature changes with the sun and therefore you can find out of it's day or night. Based on that you can find out the location.

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                            • jaseg@chaos.socialJ jaseg@chaos.social

                              Stopping the system fans to heat up the system to shift clock phase by a few femtoseconds is one of the less hinged ideas I’ve seen come out of CERN lol.

                              (AFAIU this was an experiment for a software retrofit to hardware otherwise incapable of such adjustments)

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                              @jaseg This is really neat! What's the scale of the x axis?

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                              • davidr@hachyderm.ioD davidr@hachyderm.io

                                @jaseg This is really neat! What's the scale of the x axis?

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                                @davidr about half an hour I think. The original slides are linked down thread.

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                                • jaseg@chaos.socialJ jaseg@chaos.social

                                  Stopping the system fans to heat up the system to shift clock phase by a few femtoseconds is one of the less hinged ideas I’ve seen come out of CERN lol.

                                  (AFAIU this was an experiment for a software retrofit to hardware otherwise incapable of such adjustments)

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                                  @jaseg no, this makes sense 🫠
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                                  • jaseg@chaos.socialJ jaseg@chaos.social

                                    Stopping the system fans to heat up the system to shift clock phase by a few femtoseconds is one of the less hinged ideas I’ve seen come out of CERN lol.

                                    (AFAIU this was an experiment for a software retrofit to hardware otherwise incapable of such adjustments)

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                                    @jaseg I am impressed.

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