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> "AI" is not software as we commonly understand it.

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  • davidgerard@circumstances.runD This user is from outside of this forum
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    > "AI" is not software as we commonly understand it.

    this sentence is instantly and obviously correct

    tante (@tante@tldr.nettime.org)

    I do have a hot take in me that I hopefully can write something about tonight: "AI" is not software as we commonly understand it.

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    • davidgerard@circumstances.runD davidgerard@circumstances.run

      > "AI" is not software as we commonly understand it.

      this sentence is instantly and obviously correct

      tante (@tante@tldr.nettime.org)

      I do have a hot take in me that I hopefully can write something about tonight: "AI" is not software as we commonly understand it.

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      benaveling@infosec.exchangeB This user is from outside of this forum
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      @davidgerard
      I’m curious to hear what he thinks the implications of that statement are…

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      • davidgerard@circumstances.runD davidgerard@circumstances.run

        > "AI" is not software as we commonly understand it.

        this sentence is instantly and obviously correct

        tante (@tante@tldr.nettime.org)

        I do have a hot take in me that I hopefully can write something about tonight: "AI" is not software as we commonly understand it.

        favicon

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        pettter@social.accum.seP This user is from outside of this forum
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        @davidgerard What is meant by 'AI' here? LLM chatbots? ML in general?

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        • pettter@social.accum.seP pettter@social.accum.se

          @davidgerard What is meant by 'AI' here? LLM chatbots? ML in general?

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          @davidgerard Or more most of the things that are part of the ideological project as such?

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          • davidgerard@circumstances.runD davidgerard@circumstances.run

            > "AI" is not software as we commonly understand it.

            this sentence is instantly and obviously correct

            tante (@tante@tldr.nettime.org)

            I do have a hot take in me that I hopefully can write something about tonight: "AI" is not software as we commonly understand it.

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            tinybird@timetheft.socialT This user is from outside of this forum
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            @davidgerard similarly I've heard "it's just a tool!" from boosters so many times. but to me, a tool is something that does exactly what's expected of it, and can be wielded precisely by a skilled operator.

            if I'm a woodworker and my bandsaw sometimes cuts in a straight line and sometimes zig-zags, that's not a tool, it's a fucking liability

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            • tinybird@timetheft.socialT tinybird@timetheft.social

              @davidgerard similarly I've heard "it's just a tool!" from boosters so many times. but to me, a tool is something that does exactly what's expected of it, and can be wielded precisely by a skilled operator.

              if I'm a woodworker and my bandsaw sometimes cuts in a straight line and sometimes zig-zags, that's not a tool, it's a fucking liability

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              @tinybird this is also why AI generated video is useless for real work

              it can't be directed

              things previously called "AI", like face swaps, are now just part of the CGI toolkit. because they are *directable*. you can budget and buy it in and you'll get what you expect.

              the MPEG gacha game cannot be used as part of a workflow

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              • davidgerard@circumstances.runD davidgerard@circumstances.run

                > "AI" is not software as we commonly understand it.

                this sentence is instantly and obviously correct

                tante (@tante@tldr.nettime.org)

                I do have a hot take in me that I hopefully can write something about tonight: "AI" is not software as we commonly understand it.

                favicon

                tldr.nettime (tldr.nettime.org)

                aharoni@wikis.worldA This user is from outside of this forum
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                @davidgerard Like, yes, but also no? It is software. Unpredictable, undebuggable, fraudulently marketed, and only rarely useful, but still software 🤷‍♂️

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                • aharoni@wikis.worldA aharoni@wikis.world

                  @davidgerard Like, yes, but also no? It is software. Unpredictable, undebuggable, fraudulently marketed, and only rarely useful, but still software 🤷‍♂️

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                  @aharoni yes that means it's a sequence of bytes that control a computer, and the difference is "as we commonly understand it"

                  it's not hard to understand this

                  i think you can wait until he's written the actual piece!

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