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  3. AI in the emergency room:"Adam Hart has been a nurse for 14 years.

AI in the emergency room:"Adam Hart has been a nurse for 14 years.

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  • temptoetiam@eldritch.cafeT This user is from outside of this forum
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    AI in the emergency room:
    "Adam Hart has been a nurse for 14 years. he was listening to the ambulance report on a patient who’d just arrived—an elderly woman with dangerously low blood pressure—when a sepsis flag flashed in the hospital’s electronic system.

    (.) The flag prompted the charge nurse to instruct Hart to room the patient immediately, take her vitals and begin intravenous (IV) fluids. It was protocol; in an emergency room, that often means speed.

    But when Hart examined the woman, he saw that she had a dialysis catheter below her collarbone. Her kidneys weren’t keeping up. A routine flood of IV fluids, he warned, could overwhelm her system and end up in her lungs. The charge nurse told him to do it anyway because of the sepsis alert generated by the hospital’s artificial-intelligence system. Hart refused."
    https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/ai-is-entering-health-care-and-nurses-are-being-asked-to-trust-it/

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      AI in the emergency room:
      "Adam Hart has been a nurse for 14 years. he was listening to the ambulance report on a patient who’d just arrived—an elderly woman with dangerously low blood pressure—when a sepsis flag flashed in the hospital’s electronic system.

      (.) The flag prompted the charge nurse to instruct Hart to room the patient immediately, take her vitals and begin intravenous (IV) fluids. It was protocol; in an emergency room, that often means speed.

      But when Hart examined the woman, he saw that she had a dialysis catheter below her collarbone. Her kidneys weren’t keeping up. A routine flood of IV fluids, he warned, could overwhelm her system and end up in her lungs. The charge nurse told him to do it anyway because of the sepsis alert generated by the hospital’s artificial-intelligence system. Hart refused."
      https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/ai-is-entering-health-care-and-nurses-are-being-asked-to-trust-it/

      temptoetiam@eldritch.cafeT This user is from outside of this forum
      temptoetiam@eldritch.cafeT This user is from outside of this forum
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      "Anthropic in February signed a three-year memorandum of understanding with the government of Rwanda to embed its artificial intelligence systems across the country’s health ministry, public sector agencies and education system"
      https://www.techpolicy.press/anthropic-is-becoming-the-backbone-of-rwandas-government-but-who-is-accountable/

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      • temptoetiam@eldritch.cafeT temptoetiam@eldritch.cafe

        AI in the emergency room:
        "Adam Hart has been a nurse for 14 years. he was listening to the ambulance report on a patient who’d just arrived—an elderly woman with dangerously low blood pressure—when a sepsis flag flashed in the hospital’s electronic system.

        (.) The flag prompted the charge nurse to instruct Hart to room the patient immediately, take her vitals and begin intravenous (IV) fluids. It was protocol; in an emergency room, that often means speed.

        But when Hart examined the woman, he saw that she had a dialysis catheter below her collarbone. Her kidneys weren’t keeping up. A routine flood of IV fluids, he warned, could overwhelm her system and end up in her lungs. The charge nurse told him to do it anyway because of the sepsis alert generated by the hospital’s artificial-intelligence system. Hart refused."
        https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/ai-is-entering-health-care-and-nurses-are-being-asked-to-trust-it/

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        @temptoetiam devastating

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        • temptoetiam@eldritch.cafeT temptoetiam@eldritch.cafe

          AI in the emergency room:
          "Adam Hart has been a nurse for 14 years. he was listening to the ambulance report on a patient who’d just arrived—an elderly woman with dangerously low blood pressure—when a sepsis flag flashed in the hospital’s electronic system.

          (.) The flag prompted the charge nurse to instruct Hart to room the patient immediately, take her vitals and begin intravenous (IV) fluids. It was protocol; in an emergency room, that often means speed.

          But when Hart examined the woman, he saw that she had a dialysis catheter below her collarbone. Her kidneys weren’t keeping up. A routine flood of IV fluids, he warned, could overwhelm her system and end up in her lungs. The charge nurse told him to do it anyway because of the sepsis alert generated by the hospital’s artificial-intelligence system. Hart refused."
          https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/ai-is-entering-health-care-and-nurses-are-being-asked-to-trust-it/

          snowgaze@masto.ptS This user is from outside of this forum
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          @temptoetiam "AI is not supposed to replace human judgment", but also "because things are automated you have to do what the AI says"

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          • temptoetiam@eldritch.cafeT temptoetiam@eldritch.cafe

            "Anthropic in February signed a three-year memorandum of understanding with the government of Rwanda to embed its artificial intelligence systems across the country’s health ministry, public sector agencies and education system"
            https://www.techpolicy.press/anthropic-is-becoming-the-backbone-of-rwandas-government-but-who-is-accountable/

            foucperotin@piaille.frF This user is from outside of this forum
            foucperotin@piaille.frF This user is from outside of this forum
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            @temptoetiam avec du Paul Kagame dans ce choix… C’est fou comme les dictateurs aiment l’IA.

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            • snowgaze@masto.ptS snowgaze@masto.pt

              @temptoetiam "AI is not supposed to replace human judgment", but also "because things are automated you have to do what the AI says"

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              @snowgaze @temptoetiam
              This is gonna get people killed.

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