"Healthy people cost less

[argals@mstdn.ca]

"Healthy people cost less.
Educated people contribute more.
Housed people are more stable.

...in a healthy society there are no "undeserving".
There are just people."

[baloouriza@social.tulsa.ok.us]

@argals Republicans should be housed in prisons until properly disposed of, tho.

[falcennial@mastodon.social]

@argals common sense feels like cool, clean water hydrating my face.

good faith social democracy is the only valid type of government. all other "government" types are inherently corrupt.

the crazy thing is... just do what these folks do.

[kirch@tilde.zone]

@argals reminds me of:

“A developed country is not a place where the poor have cars. It’s where the rich use public transport. It is where the rich walk and where they use bikes. We should create cities where rich and poor meet as equals: in parks, on the sidewalks, on public transport.”
― Meik Wiking, The Little Book of Lykke: Secrets of the World’s Happiest People

[dbattistella@mstdn.ca]

@argals True, also,

Healthy people are less vulnerable.
Educated people have more options.
Housed people are braver.

A sick society wants its populace oppressed and fearful. They're easier to control.

[ildiavolorosso@sfba.social]

@argals There are plenty of undeserving. We just call them “billionaires”

[ferrix@mastodon.online]

@argals @soatok also regardless, means testing is always cumbersome and expensive to administer.

The most efficient way to help everyone who deserves it is to help everyone.

[spiegelmama@infosec.exchange]

@ferrix @argals @soatok I will shout that every time it's applicable. Thank you so much for saving me the effort! Means testing is a scam set up to discourage qualified people from applying.

[cavyherd@wandering.shop]

@dbattistella @argals

Friend of mine came back from the Netherlands after visiting family, & told me about a meeting he sat in on with some of wife's colleagues & their management. Friend was boggling at how colleagues were just taking the •piss• out of mgmt for some stupid decision.

My immediate thought: "That's socialized healthcare for you."

[pinsk@freeradical.zone]

@argals while I fully embrace and endorse the sentiment and message from the Norwegian, I wonder if all Norwegians would be as enthusiastic about paying for public goods to support everybody in Norway if they had as ethnically diverse a populace as the US does

[wintergr33n@lingo.lol]

@argals

Was it Norway where some guy with a lot of money get a $200,000 (or similar) speeding ticket?

[noodlemaz@mstdn.games]

@argals sadly a lot of their countryfolk don't buy it. There's a big problem of right-wing thought in Norway too, with racism, misogyny and anti-state sentiment. Not too different from a lot of places really.
Not to say they're wrong or anything, and I agree. Just in case anyone comes with Norway (I married one, but they left the country, so)

[leeloo@c.im]

@Wintergr33n @argals
Probably Switzerland.

They may not be the only country to do it, but they are infamous for it.

As I understand, speeding fines are a percentage of the price of the car. Speeding in a Ferrari? That's going to be expensive. Speeding in a 2CV? Good luck with that.

[energisch_@troet.cafe]

@argals dignity is part of human rights and it must be for everyone, not only priviledged - if our societies aren't there yet, we need to work hard toward this goal! #HumanRights #Dignity

[jmopp@masto.ai]

@pinsk @argals The thing about that statement is that investing in public goods and a country's demographic makeup are unrelated, and it only serves racists to conflate the two.

[nikkileah@mendeddrum.org]

@leeloo @Wintergr33n @argals speeding in a 2CV, the cops are behind cheering the driver on before having a friendly word after

[nihkeys@mastodontti.fi]

@leeloo @Wintergr33n @argals In Finland speeding tickets (once the speeding is severe) are calculated based on income levels based on last taxed income (and additionally based on severity).

Other countries using similar arrangements are Sweden, Denmark, Germany, Mexico and Macao (according to wikipedia): https://fi.wikipedia.org/wiki/P%C3%A4iv%C3%A4sakko

[henningbuddenbaum@mastodon.online]

@Nikkileah @leeloo @Wintergr33n @argals https://www.reddit.com/r/OldSchoolRidiculous/comments/156y492/of_course_a_2cv_is_faster_than_a_ferrari/

[nikkileah@mendeddrum.org]

@henningbuddenbaum @leeloo @Wintergr33n @argals brilliant!!
Also faster than Jimmy Broadbent's Ferrari 360 Modena as long as it's parked.
The 2CV really is Best Car! ️

[heptasean@social.tchncs.de]

@nihkeys @leeloo @Wintergr33n @argals Germany's speeding tickets are (unfortunately) not based on income.
Yes, we have day-fines based on income, but only for criminal offences, while speeding tickets are usually only regulatory offences.