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  • argals@mstdn.caA argals@mstdn.ca

    "Healthy people cost less.
    Educated people contribute more.
    Housed people are more stable.

    ...in a healthy society there are no "undeserving".
    There are just people."

    kirch@tilde.zoneK This user is from outside of this forum
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    #4

    @argals reminds me of:

    “A developed country is not a place where the poor have cars. It’s where the rich use public transport. It is where the rich walk and where they use bikes. We should create cities where rich and poor meet as equals: in parks, on the sidewalks, on public transport.”
    ― Meik Wiking, The Little Book of Lykke: Secrets of the World’s Happiest People

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    • argals@mstdn.caA argals@mstdn.ca

      "Healthy people cost less.
      Educated people contribute more.
      Housed people are more stable.

      ...in a healthy society there are no "undeserving".
      There are just people."

      dbattistella@mstdn.caD This user is from outside of this forum
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      #5

      @argals True, also,

      Healthy people are less vulnerable.
      Educated people have more options.
      Housed people are braver.

      A sick society wants its populace oppressed and fearful. They're easier to control.

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      • argals@mstdn.caA argals@mstdn.ca

        "Healthy people cost less.
        Educated people contribute more.
        Housed people are more stable.

        ...in a healthy society there are no "undeserving".
        There are just people."

        ildiavolorosso@sfba.socialI This user is from outside of this forum
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        #6

        @argals There are plenty of undeserving. We just call them “billionaires”

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        • argals@mstdn.caA argals@mstdn.ca

          "Healthy people cost less.
          Educated people contribute more.
          Housed people are more stable.

          ...in a healthy society there are no "undeserving".
          There are just people."

          ferrix@mastodon.onlineF This user is from outside of this forum
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          #7

          @argals @soatok also regardless, means testing is always cumbersome and expensive to administer.

          The most efficient way to help everyone who deserves it is to help everyone.

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          • ferrix@mastodon.onlineF ferrix@mastodon.online

            @argals @soatok also regardless, means testing is always cumbersome and expensive to administer.

            The most efficient way to help everyone who deserves it is to help everyone.

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            #8

            @ferrix @argals @soatok I will shout that every time it's applicable. Thank you so much for saving me the effort! Means testing is a scam set up to discourage qualified people from applying.

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            • dbattistella@mstdn.caD dbattistella@mstdn.ca

              @argals True, also,

              Healthy people are less vulnerable.
              Educated people have more options.
              Housed people are braver.

              A sick society wants its populace oppressed and fearful. They're easier to control.

              cavyherd@wandering.shopC This user is from outside of this forum
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              #9

              @dbattistella @argals

              Friend of mine came back from the Netherlands after visiting family, & told me about a meeting he sat in on with some of wife's colleagues & their management. Friend was boggling at how colleagues were just taking the •piss• out of mgmt for some stupid decision.

              My immediate thought: "That's socialized healthcare for you."

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              • argals@mstdn.caA argals@mstdn.ca

                "Healthy people cost less.
                Educated people contribute more.
                Housed people are more stable.

                ...in a healthy society there are no "undeserving".
                There are just people."

                pinsk@freeradical.zoneP This user is from outside of this forum
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                #10

                @argals while I fully embrace and endorse the sentiment and message from the Norwegian, I wonder if all Norwegians would be as enthusiastic about paying for public goods to support everybody in Norway if they had as ethnically diverse a populace as the US does

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                • argals@mstdn.caA argals@mstdn.ca

                  "Healthy people cost less.
                  Educated people contribute more.
                  Housed people are more stable.

                  ...in a healthy society there are no "undeserving".
                  There are just people."

                  wintergr33n@lingo.lolW This user is from outside of this forum
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                  wintergr33n@lingo.lol
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                  #11

                  @argals

                  Was it Norway where some guy with a lot of money get a $200,000 (or similar) speeding ticket?

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                  • argals@mstdn.caA argals@mstdn.ca

                    "Healthy people cost less.
                    Educated people contribute more.
                    Housed people are more stable.

                    ...in a healthy society there are no "undeserving".
                    There are just people."

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                    #12

                    @argals sadly a lot of their countryfolk don't buy it. There's a big problem of right-wing thought in Norway too, with racism, misogyny and anti-state sentiment. Not too different from a lot of places really.
                    Not to say they're wrong or anything, and I agree. Just in case anyone comes with 😍 Norway (I married one, but they left the country, so)

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                    • wintergr33n@lingo.lolW wintergr33n@lingo.lol

                      @argals

                      Was it Norway where some guy with a lot of money get a $200,000 (or similar) speeding ticket?

                      leeloo@c.imL This user is from outside of this forum
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                      @Wintergr33n @argals
                      Probably Switzerland.

                      They may not be the only country to do it, but they are infamous for it.

                      As I understand, speeding fines are a percentage of the price of the car. Speeding in a Ferrari? That's going to be expensive. Speeding in a 2CV? Good luck with that.

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                      • argals@mstdn.caA argals@mstdn.ca

                        "Healthy people cost less.
                        Educated people contribute more.
                        Housed people are more stable.

                        ...in a healthy society there are no "undeserving".
                        There are just people."

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                        #14

                        @argals dignity is part of human rights and it must be for everyone, not only priviledged - if our societies aren't there yet, we need to work hard toward this goal! #HumanRights #Dignity

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                        • pinsk@freeradical.zoneP pinsk@freeradical.zone

                          @argals while I fully embrace and endorse the sentiment and message from the Norwegian, I wonder if all Norwegians would be as enthusiastic about paying for public goods to support everybody in Norway if they had as ethnically diverse a populace as the US does

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                          @pinsk @argals The thing about that statement is that investing in public goods and a country's demographic makeup are unrelated, and it only serves racists to conflate the two.

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                          • leeloo@c.imL leeloo@c.im

                            @Wintergr33n @argals
                            Probably Switzerland.

                            They may not be the only country to do it, but they are infamous for it.

                            As I understand, speeding fines are a percentage of the price of the car. Speeding in a Ferrari? That's going to be expensive. Speeding in a 2CV? Good luck with that.

                            nikkileah@mendeddrum.orgN This user is from outside of this forum
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                            @leeloo @Wintergr33n @argals speeding in a 2CV, the cops are behind cheering the driver on before having a friendly word after 😋

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                            • leeloo@c.imL leeloo@c.im

                              @Wintergr33n @argals
                              Probably Switzerland.

                              They may not be the only country to do it, but they are infamous for it.

                              As I understand, speeding fines are a percentage of the price of the car. Speeding in a Ferrari? That's going to be expensive. Speeding in a 2CV? Good luck with that.

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                              @leeloo @Wintergr33n @argals In Finland speeding tickets (once the speeding is severe) are calculated based on income levels based on last taxed income (and additionally based on severity).

                              Other countries using similar arrangements are Sweden, Denmark, Germany, Mexico and Macao (according to wikipedia): https://fi.wikipedia.org/wiki/P%C3%A4iv%C3%A4sakko

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                              • nikkileah@mendeddrum.orgN nikkileah@mendeddrum.org

                                @leeloo @Wintergr33n @argals speeding in a 2CV, the cops are behind cheering the driver on before having a friendly word after 😋

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                                @Nikkileah @leeloo @Wintergr33n @argals https://www.reddit.com/r/OldSchoolRidiculous/comments/156y492/of_course_a_2cv_is_faster_than_a_ferrari/

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                                • henningbuddenbaum@mastodon.onlineH henningbuddenbaum@mastodon.online

                                  @Nikkileah @leeloo @Wintergr33n @argals https://www.reddit.com/r/OldSchoolRidiculous/comments/156y492/of_course_a_2cv_is_faster_than_a_ferrari/

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                                  @henningbuddenbaum @leeloo @Wintergr33n @argals brilliant!!
                                  Also faster than Jimmy Broadbent's Ferrari 360 Modena as long as it's parked.
                                  The 2CV really is Best Car! ☺️😋

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                                  • nihkeys@mastodontti.fiN nihkeys@mastodontti.fi

                                    @leeloo @Wintergr33n @argals In Finland speeding tickets (once the speeding is severe) are calculated based on income levels based on last taxed income (and additionally based on severity).

                                    Other countries using similar arrangements are Sweden, Denmark, Germany, Mexico and Macao (according to wikipedia): https://fi.wikipedia.org/wiki/P%C3%A4iv%C3%A4sakko

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                                    @nihkeys @leeloo @Wintergr33n @argals Germany's speeding tickets are (unfortunately) not based on income.
                                    Yes, we have day-fines based on income, but only for criminal offences, while speeding tickets are usually only regulatory offences.

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                                    • argals@mstdn.caA argals@mstdn.ca

                                      "Healthy people cost less.
                                      Educated people contribute more.
                                      Housed people are more stable.

                                      ...in a healthy society there are no "undeserving".
                                      There are just people."

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                                      @argals The problem with U.S. is if it’s not good for me I don’t want it. The U.S. is very selfish and there has to be major societal changes before “we” could ever enact something like “democratic socialism” it’s sad but it’s the truth. The government has always been about “profits before people”.

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                                      • argals@mstdn.caA argals@mstdn.ca

                                        "Healthy people cost less.
                                        Educated people contribute more.
                                        Housed people are more stable.

                                        ...in a healthy society there are no "undeserving".
                                        There are just people."

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                                        @argals Here in the UK we feel disgusted at the idea of the lower classes receiving anything they haven't earned by toil and suffering. Poverty is seen as a moral failing, proof of laziness, criminality and stupidity. The US inherited that from us.

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                                        • argals@mstdn.caA argals@mstdn.ca

                                          "Healthy people cost less.
                                          Educated people contribute more.
                                          Housed people are more stable.

                                          ...in a healthy society there are no "undeserving".
                                          There are just people."

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                                          #23

                                          @argals Ever the wrong people pumping out overly simple and flawed messages with the media supporting them every step of the way.

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