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  3. the AI alignment problem is entirely a smokescreen designed to distract from the capital class alignment problem

the AI alignment problem is entirely a smokescreen designed to distract from the capital class alignment problem

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  • mcc@mastodon.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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    #28

    @flipper @davidgerard @deshipu @travisfw @glyph i (a frequentist) once dated a Bayesian for a while. Nothing was learned from this experience which applies to other situations

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    • glyph@mastodon.socialG glyph@mastodon.social

      @3psboyd @mcc I feel a *little* bad for the lesswrongers generally because this is really judging the community by its worst and most extreme elements, and here we are on fedi (not a group whose most extreme and unpleasant members I would like to represent me) but that faction is certainly … unduly powerful in society right now

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      @glyph @3psboyd @mcc
      This. I know some decent ones.
      But the decent ones tend to follow the Bentham-Utilitarianism-on-acid (aka longtermist) nutters, wherever they lead, IME.

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        @glyph @3psboyd @mcc
        This. I know some decent ones.
        But the decent ones tend to follow the Bentham-Utilitarianism-on-acid (aka longtermist) nutters, wherever they lead, IME.

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        @jaystephens @3psboyd @mcc if they were at least real Benthamites they’d get out the felicific calculus and do the damn arithmetic and not just slosh around a bunch of half-assed Fermi estimates with orders of magnitude instead of numbers

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        • glyph@mastodon.socialG glyph@mastodon.social

          @jaystephens @3psboyd @mcc if they were at least real Benthamites they’d get out the felicific calculus and do the damn arithmetic and not just slosh around a bunch of half-assed Fermi estimates with orders of magnitude instead of numbers

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          @jaystephens @3psboyd @mcc consider this my “born in the dark” Bane speech

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          • glyph@mastodon.socialG glyph@mastodon.social

            @jaystephens @3psboyd @mcc if they were at least real Benthamites they’d get out the felicific calculus and do the damn arithmetic and not just slosh around a bunch of half-assed Fermi estimates with orders of magnitude instead of numbers

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            @glyph @jaystephens @3psboyd @mcc

            I know what “felicific calculus” refers to, but every time I see that phrase, I’m annoyed that it refers to generic happiness and not to the number of cats people have (or that they would like to have).

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            • glyph@mastodon.socialG glyph@mastodon.social

              @xgranade I don't think there's an exaggeration here, just some uncharitable phrasing

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              @glyph @xgranade They would tend to say spacegod instead of god, intelligence instead of feelings, and spacehell instead of hell, because to them that makes it Science and Fact rather than religion or fantasy.

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                @flipper @deshipu @travisfw @mcc @glyph "Bayesian" is a contraction of "Bay Area sex pest"

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                • glyph@mastodon.socialG glyph@mastodon.social

                  @jaystephens @3psboyd @mcc if they were at least real Benthamites they’d get out the felicific calculus and do the damn arithmetic and not just slosh around a bunch of half-assed Fermi estimates with orders of magnitude instead of numbers

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                  @glyph @3psboyd @mcc
                  Mate, what's a bit of child labour in Africa compared to the happiness of the quadrillions of humans who'll flourish once we're spread across the galaxy? Any malnutrition and lost limbs in the here and now is a rounding error.

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                  • xgranade@wandering.shopX xgranade@wandering.shop

                    @glyph

                    ML ethics: here's why including ZIP codes in the data used by a classifier is bad

                    AI ethics: what if some cryptogod hundreds of millennia in the future gets their feelings hurt by mean posts and decides to invent hell?

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                    @glyph@mastodon.social @xgranade@wandering.shop Eliezer Yudkowsky and his consequences have been a disaster for the human race

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                    • xgranade@wandering.shopX xgranade@wandering.shop

                      @glyph (I hate how little I had to exaggerate to make that joke.)

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                      @xgranade @glyph No exaggeration spotted here

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