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  3. I know 100% that people will argue with me over this, but I miss when movies were professionally lit, when actors were intentionally blocked, and when more than teal, orange and beige were allowed to be on the screen.

I know 100% that people will argue with me over this, but I miss when movies were professionally lit, when actors were intentionally blocked, and when more than teal, orange and beige were allowed to be on the screen.

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  • gargron@mastodon.socialG gargron@mastodon.social

    I know 100% that people will argue with me over this, but I miss when movies were professionally lit, when actors were intentionally blocked, and when more than teal, orange and beige were allowed to be on the screen. The medium has something to do with it--film made a lot of these things fundamentally necessary--but I think it's more complex than just that. The last few years' movies are just not pleasant to look at, with very few exceptions, and the change occurred sometime around 2015.

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    @Gargron actually the change occurred after 2000 when Harvey Weinstein took over Hollywood. Movies were original, incredible, stimulating and then Harvey wanted to push out terrible remakes to increase sales and fill movie seats.

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    • gargron@mastodon.socialG gargron@mastodon.social

      I know 100% that people will argue with me over this, but I miss when movies were professionally lit, when actors were intentionally blocked, and when more than teal, orange and beige were allowed to be on the screen. The medium has something to do with it--film made a lot of these things fundamentally necessary--but I think it's more complex than just that. The last few years' movies are just not pleasant to look at, with very few exceptions, and the change occurred sometime around 2015.

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      @Gargron The thing that bothers me the most is the sound quality. Older things took pains to be audible. Modern stuff, half the time I can't understand what they're saying. But it's not my ears. I go back and listen to older stuff, and it's still clear.

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      • gargron@mastodon.socialG gargron@mastodon.social

        I know 100% that people will argue with me over this, but I miss when movies were professionally lit, when actors were intentionally blocked, and when more than teal, orange and beige were allowed to be on the screen. The medium has something to do with it--film made a lot of these things fundamentally necessary--but I think it's more complex than just that. The last few years' movies are just not pleasant to look at, with very few exceptions, and the change occurred sometime around 2015.

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        #32

        @Gargron I agree entirely, I stop watching when I can’t see the details of the scene and sometimes even give up entirely 🤭

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        • gargron@mastodon.socialG gargron@mastodon.social

          I know 100% that people will argue with me over this, but I miss when movies were professionally lit, when actors were intentionally blocked, and when more than teal, orange and beige were allowed to be on the screen. The medium has something to do with it--film made a lot of these things fundamentally necessary--but I think it's more complex than just that. The last few years' movies are just not pleasant to look at, with very few exceptions, and the change occurred sometime around 2015.

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          #33

          @Gargron on the topic of movies that look good: The Ballad of Narayama (1958) 🤌

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          • gargron@mastodon.socialG gargron@mastodon.social

            I know 100% that people will argue with me over this, but I miss when movies were professionally lit, when actors were intentionally blocked, and when more than teal, orange and beige were allowed to be on the screen. The medium has something to do with it--film made a lot of these things fundamentally necessary--but I think it's more complex than just that. The last few years' movies are just not pleasant to look at, with very few exceptions, and the change occurred sometime around 2015.

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            #34

            @Gargron nothing to argue here. The movie industry right now is a noob photographer who thinks "great, with that dynamic range I don't even have to expose correctly anymore". And that's what they are literally doing.

            When has "I don't know if this scene will be in daylight or night time right now, let's shoot anyway and fix it in post" became a thing?

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            • gargron@mastodon.socialG gargron@mastodon.social

              I know 100% that people will argue with me over this, but I miss when movies were professionally lit, when actors were intentionally blocked, and when more than teal, orange and beige were allowed to be on the screen. The medium has something to do with it--film made a lot of these things fundamentally necessary--but I think it's more complex than just that. The last few years' movies are just not pleasant to look at, with very few exceptions, and the change occurred sometime around 2015.

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              @Gargron I know where you're coming from and partly share the sentiment myself, but I can assure you there are MANY great films being made today! One just have to look further than Hollywood's blockbusters or Netflix recommendations. Let's support the artists making that happen 🙂

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              • hostia@defcon.socialH hostia@defcon.social

                @Gargron I know where you're coming from and partly share the sentiment myself, but I can assure you there are MANY great films being made today! One just have to look further than Hollywood's blockbusters or Netflix recommendations. Let's support the artists making that happen 🙂

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                #36

                @hostia @Gargron can we make this a recommentation thread of photoghracically well made movies?

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                • gargron@mastodon.socialG gargron@mastodon.social

                  I know 100% that people will argue with me over this, but I miss when movies were professionally lit, when actors were intentionally blocked, and when more than teal, orange and beige were allowed to be on the screen. The medium has something to do with it--film made a lot of these things fundamentally necessary--but I think it's more complex than just that. The last few years' movies are just not pleasant to look at, with very few exceptions, and the change occurred sometime around 2015.

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                  #37

                  @Gargron if we making 1000+ movies around the world in an year, only 50 movies are worth to watch

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                  • gargron@mastodon.socialG gargron@mastodon.social

                    I know 100% that people will argue with me over this, but I miss when movies were professionally lit, when actors were intentionally blocked, and when more than teal, orange and beige were allowed to be on the screen. The medium has something to do with it--film made a lot of these things fundamentally necessary--but I think it's more complex than just that. The last few years' movies are just not pleasant to look at, with very few exceptions, and the change occurred sometime around 2015.

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                    #38

                    @Gargron Die Film-Industrie ist aber auch immer ein Spiegel der Gesellschaft. Seit einigen Jahren gibt es kaum mehr Komödien.
                    Die Filme sind sehr häufig düster, dunkel, dystopisch und auch immer wieder so seicht, dass das Meditieren einer Schnittblume fast schon als spannend bezeichnet werden kann.
                    Ja, die Krisen, Kriege, Konflikte machen etwas mit den Menschen - dies sehen wir heute auf den Leinwänden. Leider!

                    Als Gesellschaft müsste uns dies zu denken geben.

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                    • gargron@mastodon.socialG gargron@mastodon.social

                      I know 100% that people will argue with me over this, but I miss when movies were professionally lit, when actors were intentionally blocked, and when more than teal, orange and beige were allowed to be on the screen. The medium has something to do with it--film made a lot of these things fundamentally necessary--but I think it's more complex than just that. The last few years' movies are just not pleasant to look at, with very few exceptions, and the change occurred sometime around 2015.

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                      #39

                      @Gargron I agree with you that this trend exists and is swallowing up lots of movies, but there is some relief in the wide-ranging supply. I went looking just for a still from "Sinners", which I think is a fine example against that trend, but I found a dozen more to boot.

                      for your consideration:

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                      The Best Film Cinematography of 2025

                      IndieWire picks the films with the best cinematography of the year, from 'Sinners' and 'One Battle After Another' to 'The Naked Gun.'

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                      IndieWire (www.indiewire.com)

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                      • gargron@mastodon.socialG gargron@mastodon.social

                        I know 100% that people will argue with me over this, but I miss when movies were professionally lit, when actors were intentionally blocked, and when more than teal, orange and beige were allowed to be on the screen. The medium has something to do with it--film made a lot of these things fundamentally necessary--but I think it's more complex than just that. The last few years' movies are just not pleasant to look at, with very few exceptions, and the change occurred sometime around 2015.

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                        @Gargron I totally agree. Nowadays, it feels like movies are afraid of real shadows and vibrant colors. Everything has turned into a gray, digital mush to accommodate streaming and CGI, but we lost the soul of cinematography in the process. Older films had a texture and depth that today's color grading algorithms simply cannot replicate.

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                        • gargron@mastodon.socialG gargron@mastodon.social

                          I know 100% that people will argue with me over this, but I miss when movies were professionally lit, when actors were intentionally blocked, and when more than teal, orange and beige were allowed to be on the screen. The medium has something to do with it--film made a lot of these things fundamentally necessary--but I think it's more complex than just that. The last few years' movies are just not pleasant to look at, with very few exceptions, and the change occurred sometime around 2015.

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                          @Gargron I will agree with you 100% on this. There is so much about modern movies that I hate. The lighting is dreadful a lot of the time. It's like it's a lost art. Also, sound mixing is bloody terrible.

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                          • gargron@mastodon.socialG gargron@mastodon.social

                            I know 100% that people will argue with me over this, but I miss when movies were professionally lit, when actors were intentionally blocked, and when more than teal, orange and beige were allowed to be on the screen. The medium has something to do with it--film made a lot of these things fundamentally necessary--but I think it's more complex than just that. The last few years' movies are just not pleasant to look at, with very few exceptions, and the change occurred sometime around 2015.

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                            @Gargron also, actors used to speak clearly. I watched Dune part 2 last night and have absolutely no clue what half the dialogue was.

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                              @EricBono @Gargron thank you for the explanation, could this also be the onset of AI into the post production world? Asking you as you are the expert.

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                              • gargron@mastodon.socialG gargron@mastodon.social

                                I know 100% that people will argue with me over this, but I miss when movies were professionally lit, when actors were intentionally blocked, and when more than teal, orange and beige were allowed to be on the screen. The medium has something to do with it--film made a lot of these things fundamentally necessary--but I think it's more complex than just that. The last few years' movies are just not pleasant to look at, with very few exceptions, and the change occurred sometime around 2015.

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                                @Gargron watched the 1955 Austrian movie Sissi the other day, not a masterpiece by any means but good god it’s nice to have natural (though I suppose in reality it was anything but natural) lighting and colours.

                                That said, there are plenty of beautiful looking movies made today too, just not the norm.

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                                • swanksalot@toot.communityS swanksalot@toot.community

                                  @Gargron also the sound staff seems to have all been fired - dialogue etc. hard to hear

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                                  #45

                                  The ultimate "how could this ever leave post like this" movie is Dunkirk. But apparently Christopher Nolan had a reason to make the dialogue utterly impossible to hear. Or something.
                                  @swanksalot @Gargron

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                                  • gargron@mastodon.socialG gargron@mastodon.social

                                    I know 100% that people will argue with me over this, but I miss when movies were professionally lit, when actors were intentionally blocked, and when more than teal, orange and beige were allowed to be on the screen. The medium has something to do with it--film made a lot of these things fundamentally necessary--but I think it's more complex than just that. The last few years' movies are just not pleasant to look at, with very few exceptions, and the change occurred sometime around 2015.

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                                    @Gargron RE: Blocking in Film - you are reminding me of director Mike Nichols (The Graduate, The Birdcage). He and his stage partner Elaine May were some of the earliest improve comedians in the US. His films were meticulously acted because the casts would rehearse the films like a play for weeks before filming. That allowed them to inhabit their roles, have natural reactions, and to get the blocking just right.

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                                    • gargron@mastodon.socialG gargron@mastodon.social

                                      I know 100% that people will argue with me over this, but I miss when movies were professionally lit, when actors were intentionally blocked, and when more than teal, orange and beige were allowed to be on the screen. The medium has something to do with it--film made a lot of these things fundamentally necessary--but I think it's more complex than just that. The last few years' movies are just not pleasant to look at, with very few exceptions, and the change occurred sometime around 2015.

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                                      @Gargron yesterday I just watched Therminator from 1984, not the best film but I loved everything how it’s made. Can’t watch today’s movies anymore.

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                                      • emmacox@writing.exchangeE emmacox@writing.exchange

                                        @Gargron also, actors used to speak clearly. I watched Dune part 2 last night and have absolutely no clue what half the dialogue was.

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                                        @Emmacox @Gargron sadly the last generation to be properly stage-trained to enunciate and project are beginning to die off 😞 Despite my mild HL and ASD-linked auditory processing problems, I have never failed to understand Judi Dench, for example!

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                                        • gargron@mastodon.socialG gargron@mastodon.social

                                          I know 100% that people will argue with me over this, but I miss when movies were professionally lit, when actors were intentionally blocked, and when more than teal, orange and beige were allowed to be on the screen. The medium has something to do with it--film made a lot of these things fundamentally necessary--but I think it's more complex than just that. The last few years' movies are just not pleasant to look at, with very few exceptions, and the change occurred sometime around 2015.

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                                          @Gargron I agree, mainly American movies.

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