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  • fishidwardrobe@mastodon.me.ukF fishidwardrobe@mastodon.me.uk

    @Khrys we like to think of FOSS as some sort of anarchist collective°. it never has been.

    it's run by a series of people with absolute power, for the most part. the benefit is that it's a lot of tiny dictators rather than a few big ones; that in theory anyone can become one, you don't need to be rich; and that these dictators tend to have technical knowledge.

    but they can still be arseholes.

    ° i mean, we might not CALL it that.

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    @fishidwardrobe
    I'm glad most tend to be BDFLs.
    @Khrys

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    • 0x0@hachyderm.io0 0x0@hachyderm.io

      @fishidwardrobe
      I'm glad most tend to be BDFLs.
      @Khrys

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      @0x0 @Khrys do they? the title was originally ironic, but these days everyone seems fine taking it seriously.

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      • fishidwardrobe@mastodon.me.ukF fishidwardrobe@mastodon.me.uk

        @lori @Khrys i've recently been thinking about — and this is beyond my skills, so i should really say "fantasising about" — some sort of common retrocomputing platform, maybe based on an esp32 or something, which is completely incompatible with commercial computers and so can't be used commercially.

        but it would also be missing all the spy-firmware (minix in the cpu, tiny computers in usb plugs etc). maybe we could start our own replacement for the internet!

        … yeah, right. sorry.

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        @fishidwardrobe

        Open hardware would be incompatible with modern day commercial aspirations.
        Coupled with FOSS of course.

        #ESP32 is more for IoT than regular computing – but you can use it for #meshcore (and other #LoRa-based projects), wish is an interesting, albeight very basic, alternative to common (controlled) networks.

        @lori @Khrys

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        • 0x0@hachyderm.io0 0x0@hachyderm.io

          @fishidwardrobe

          Open hardware would be incompatible with modern day commercial aspirations.
          Coupled with FOSS of course.

          #ESP32 is more for IoT than regular computing – but you can use it for #meshcore (and other #LoRa-based projects), wish is an interesting, albeight very basic, alternative to common (controlled) networks.

          @lori @Khrys

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          @0x0 @lori @Khrys folks are, amazingly, building tiny computers that run python or basic around esp32. surprised me too!

          you need another chip to handle vga, and some external static RAM, it appears.

          here is a project emulating i386 that runs windows 98! on an esp32!! https://hackaday.com/2021/07/28/emulating-the-ibm-pc-on-an-esp32/

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          • mcv@friendica.opensocial.spaceM mcv@friendica.opensocial.space

            @Salty @jonathankoren @Khrys

            This is not giving away your freedom.

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            @mcv

            Yet.

            @Khrys @Salty @jonathankoren

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            • fishidwardrobe@mastodon.me.ukF fishidwardrobe@mastodon.me.uk

              @0x0 @lori @Khrys folks are, amazingly, building tiny computers that run python or basic around esp32. surprised me too!

              you need another chip to handle vga, and some external static RAM, it appears.

              here is a project emulating i386 that runs windows 98! on an esp32!! https://hackaday.com/2021/07/28/emulating-the-ibm-pc-on-an-esp32/

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              @fishidwardrobe

              It really says a lot when we can use low end hardware (for today's standards) to run simpler software that suffices for most tasks.
              Maybe RAM prices will bring that ingenuity back.

              @lori @Khrys

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                @fishidwardrobe

                It really says a lot when we can use low end hardware (for today's standards) to run simpler software that suffices for most tasks.
                Maybe RAM prices will bring that ingenuity back.

                @lori @Khrys

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                @0x0 @lori @Khrys i'm old enough to be certain that i, for one, do not need the power of a modern computer – given the right software.

                something between a BBC Model B / Acorn Electron and a 386 would be just fine.

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                • fishidwardrobe@mastodon.me.ukF fishidwardrobe@mastodon.me.uk

                  @0x0 @lori @Khrys i'm old enough to be certain that i, for one, do not need the power of a modern computer – given the right software.

                  something between a BBC Model B / Acorn Electron and a 386 would be just fine.

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                  @Khrys @fishidwardrobe @0x0 Everything I do other than surfing the web I could retrocompute. Both of the two (2) viable web layout engines are bloatware because the web standard is bloatware.

                  astoundingteam.com/2020/04/21/…

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                  • fishidwardrobe@mastodon.me.ukF fishidwardrobe@mastodon.me.uk

                    @0x0 @lori @Khrys i'm old enough to be certain that i, for one, do not need the power of a modern computer – given the right software.

                    something between a BBC Model B / Acorn Electron and a 386 would be just fine.

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                    @fishidwardrobe @0x0 @lori @Khrys The Motorola 68000 powered a generation of pretty awesome machines, I'd happily fall back to my STe as a daily driver for most tasks if I won the Lotto.

                    (Of course I would have to be paying the idiot tax for that scenario to have any possibility of happening 😂)

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                    • lori@cambrian.socialL lori@cambrian.social

                      @Khrys @fishidwardrobe @0x0 Everything I do other than surfing the web I could retrocompute. Both of the two (2) viable web layout engines are bloatware because the web standard is bloatware.

                      astoundingteam.com/2020/04/21/…

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                      @lori @Khrys @0x0 maybe we should start a thing where we bring back "this site best viewed in Netscape Navigator"…

                      edit: for some reason caniuse.com does not list this browser.

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                      • nblr@chaos.socialN nblr@chaos.social

                        @joschi
                        The article is as much about the multi-layer organisational failure as it is about the "contribution" - which indeed is not just one "I don't like". Please take your framing and go elsewhere. Thank you.

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                        @nblr @joschi

                        The title focuses on ‘the engineer’, the top level sentence calls him out by name and calls him an ‘idiot’
                        There are later some thoughts on organisational failures. But to me it mostly reads as a personal attack.
                        You can read it anyway you want, frame it anyway you want. But please give others the same courtesy.

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                        • khrys@mamot.frK khrys@mamot.fr

                          The Engineer Who Tried to Put Age Verification Into Linux

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                          The Engineer Who Tried to Put Age Verification Into Linux

                          Dylan, useful idiot with commit access, pushed age verification PRs to systemd, Ubuntu & Arch, got 2 Microslop employees to merge it, called it 'hilariously pointless' in the PR itself, then watched Lennart personally block the revert. Unpaid compliance simp.

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                          Sam Bent (www.sambent.com)

                          The lasting damage was knowing it could happen at all: that a single contributor with no stated organizational backing could submit compliance infrastructure for surveillance law directly into the software that boots your computer, get it merged by two Microsoft employees, and have the creator of systemd personally block the removal.

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                          @Khrys that's called harassment
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