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  3. Four years ago I asked whether "Google Pass" was a thing that I needed to give a shit about and consensus was, "no, nobody uses that."

Four years ago I asked whether "Google Pass" was a thing that I needed to give a shit about and consensus was, "no, nobody uses that."

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  • jwz@mastodon.socialJ jwz@mastodon.social

    Four years ago I asked whether "Google Pass" was a thing that I needed to give a shit about and consensus was, "no, nobody uses that." But I have heard anecdotally, recently, that this might no longer be true. Thoughts?

    The goal here is, "reduce the amount of time it takes for someone standing in front of my nightclub to wave their QR code at the door staff."

    Note: I don't use Android and know as little about its ecosystem as possible, so please use small words.
    https://jwz.org/b/yk45

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    @jwz Anecdotally, I've used it to get into/on movies (Atom tickets uses it), flights, plays, and museums.

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    • jleedev@mastodon.sdf.orgJ jleedev@mastodon.sdf.org

      @jwz Google Play Services can ingest the .pkpass file directly and show it in Wallet. This is apparently new as of 2 years ago. It makes you click a few more buttons than the native Google Pass button but it absolutely works.

      (It also tries to trick you into downloading an app named "Google Wallet" even though all of this functionality is part of Play Services.)

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      @jleedev If this were generally true, that would be great news, because it would mean that my existing passes work on Android without me having to do anything.

      But I cannot reproduce.

      In the Android emulator, clicking on a .pkpass link (content-type application/vnd.apple.pkpass) downloads it and says "cannot open file".

      This is Android 16 sending UA "Mozilla/5.0 (Linux; Android 10; K) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/133.0.0.0 Mobile Safari/537.36".

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      • jwz@mastodon.socialJ jwz@mastodon.social

        @jleedev If this were generally true, that would be great news, because it would mean that my existing passes work on Android without me having to do anything.

        But I cannot reproduce.

        In the Android emulator, clicking on a .pkpass link (content-type application/vnd.apple.pkpass) downloads it and says "cannot open file".

        This is Android 16 sending UA "Mozilla/5.0 (Linux; Android 10; K) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/133.0.0.0 Mobile Safari/537.36".

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        @jwz If I had to guess, the emulator system image being "Google Play" or "Google APIs" has something to do with this; I'm on Pixel 4a with Android 13.

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        • jleedev@mastodon.sdf.orgJ jleedev@mastodon.sdf.org

          @jwz If I had to guess, the emulator system image being "Google Play" or "Google APIs" has something to do with this; I'm on Pixel 4a with Android 13.

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          @jleedev I switched the emulator from "Google APIs" to "Google Play Store" and it had slightly different behavior; the pkpass file still shows up in Downloads, and it doesn't say "can't open file" any more but neither does it open it.

          There is some crud in "adb logcat" about "com.google.android.gms/com.google.android.gms.pay.deeplink.AliasSavePkPassActivity" so maybe it's trying?

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          • jwz@mastodon.socialJ jwz@mastodon.social

            @jleedev If this were generally true, that would be great news, because it would mean that my existing passes work on Android without me having to do anything.

            But I cannot reproduce.

            In the Android emulator, clicking on a .pkpass link (content-type application/vnd.apple.pkpass) downloads it and says "cannot open file".

            This is Android 16 sending UA "Mozilla/5.0 (Linux; Android 10; K) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/133.0.0.0 Mobile Safari/537.36".

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            @jwz @jleedev
            If you share a pkpass file (for a fictitious event), some of us will tell you whether it imports into Google Wallet on our phones, with what phone and what Android version.

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            • jwz@mastodon.socialJ jwz@mastodon.social

              Four years ago I asked whether "Google Pass" was a thing that I needed to give a shit about and consensus was, "no, nobody uses that." But I have heard anecdotally, recently, that this might no longer be true. Thoughts?

              The goal here is, "reduce the amount of time it takes for someone standing in front of my nightclub to wave their QR code at the door staff."

              Note: I don't use Android and know as little about its ecosystem as possible, so please use small words.
              https://jwz.org/b/yk45

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              If those of you using Android could click on this link and tell me whether it does anything even remotely useful, and if so, some detail about how horrible/stupid the whole experience is, that would be helpful: https://www.jwz.org/images/2026/test.pkpass

              And tell me what version you're using, obviously. Possibly this requires some "Play" [sic] stuff to work.

              UPDATE: Thanks! You can stop now.

              (Unless you have read the dozens of replies and have had a materially different experience than those.)

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              • jwz@mastodon.socialJ jwz@mastodon.social

                If those of you using Android could click on this link and tell me whether it does anything even remotely useful, and if so, some detail about how horrible/stupid the whole experience is, that would be helpful: https://www.jwz.org/images/2026/test.pkpass

                And tell me what version you're using, obviously. Possibly this requires some "Play" [sic] stuff to work.

                UPDATE: Thanks! You can stop now.

                (Unless you have read the dozens of replies and have had a materially different experience than those.)

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                @jwz nothing remotely useful - I get a dialog as for any unrecognized file for download.

                Edit: Android13/lineageOS/google play from microg/fennec browser (firefox)

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                • jwz@mastodon.socialJ jwz@mastodon.social

                  If those of you using Android could click on this link and tell me whether it does anything even remotely useful, and if so, some detail about how horrible/stupid the whole experience is, that would be helpful: https://www.jwz.org/images/2026/test.pkpass

                  And tell me what version you're using, obviously. Possibly this requires some "Play" [sic] stuff to work.

                  UPDATE: Thanks! You can stop now.

                  (Unless you have read the dozens of replies and have had a materially different experience than those.)

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                  @jwz Downloads a pkpass file. That's it.

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                  • jwz@mastodon.socialJ jwz@mastodon.social

                    If those of you using Android could click on this link and tell me whether it does anything even remotely useful, and if so, some detail about how horrible/stupid the whole experience is, that would be helpful: https://www.jwz.org/images/2026/test.pkpass

                    And tell me what version you're using, obviously. Possibly this requires some "Play" [sic] stuff to work.

                    UPDATE: Thanks! You can stop now.

                    (Unless you have read the dozens of replies and have had a materially different experience than those.)

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                    @jwz asks to download the test.pkpass file. (Using a browser with no script enabled, didn't go any farther than the prompt)

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                    • jwz@mastodon.socialJ jwz@mastodon.social

                      If those of you using Android could click on this link and tell me whether it does anything even remotely useful, and if so, some detail about how horrible/stupid the whole experience is, that would be helpful: https://www.jwz.org/images/2026/test.pkpass

                      And tell me what version you're using, obviously. Possibly this requires some "Play" [sic] stuff to work.

                      UPDATE: Thanks! You can stop now.

                      (Unless you have read the dozens of replies and have had a materially different experience than those.)

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                      @jwz the file is downloaded, nothing more

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                      • jwz@mastodon.socialJ jwz@mastodon.social

                        If those of you using Android could click on this link and tell me whether it does anything even remotely useful, and if so, some detail about how horrible/stupid the whole experience is, that would be helpful: https://www.jwz.org/images/2026/test.pkpass

                        And tell me what version you're using, obviously. Possibly this requires some "Play" [sic] stuff to work.

                        UPDATE: Thanks! You can stop now.

                        (Unless you have read the dozens of replies and have had a materially different experience than those.)

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                        @jwz Apparently I now have a pass to an event. It went pretty seamlessly apart from me having to say Yes to things I haven't used before. Galaxy Tab A9, Android 16.

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                        • jwz@mastodon.socialJ jwz@mastodon.social

                          If those of you using Android could click on this link and tell me whether it does anything even remotely useful, and if so, some detail about how horrible/stupid the whole experience is, that would be helpful: https://www.jwz.org/images/2026/test.pkpass

                          And tell me what version you're using, obviously. Possibly this requires some "Play" [sic] stuff to work.

                          UPDATE: Thanks! You can stop now.

                          (Unless you have read the dozens of replies and have had a materially different experience than those.)

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                          @jwz Unsupported file type error on Android 13 (opened on Google Wallet)

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                          • jwz@mastodon.socialJ jwz@mastodon.social

                            If those of you using Android could click on this link and tell me whether it does anything even remotely useful, and if so, some detail about how horrible/stupid the whole experience is, that would be helpful: https://www.jwz.org/images/2026/test.pkpass

                            And tell me what version you're using, obviously. Possibly this requires some "Play" [sic] stuff to work.

                            UPDATE: Thanks! You can stop now.

                            (Unless you have read the dozens of replies and have had a materially different experience than those.)

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                            @jwz it:
                            1. asks if I want to download a file
                            2. downloads a file with a .pkpass extension
                            3. asks if I want to open the file
                            4. opens the file in Google Wallet and asks if I was to add
                            5. asks if I want to add a ticket to Powerman 5000 at DNA lounge

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                            • jwz@mastodon.socialJ jwz@mastodon.social

                              If those of you using Android could click on this link and tell me whether it does anything even remotely useful, and if so, some detail about how horrible/stupid the whole experience is, that would be helpful: https://www.jwz.org/images/2026/test.pkpass

                              And tell me what version you're using, obviously. Possibly this requires some "Play" [sic] stuff to work.

                              UPDATE: Thanks! You can stop now.

                              (Unless you have read the dozens of replies and have had a materially different experience than those.)

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                              @jwz Downloaded the pkpass file using Samsung Internet, I then tried to open the file and got this

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                              • jwz@mastodon.socialJ jwz@mastodon.social

                                If those of you using Android could click on this link and tell me whether it does anything even remotely useful, and if so, some detail about how horrible/stupid the whole experience is, that would be helpful: https://www.jwz.org/images/2026/test.pkpass

                                And tell me what version you're using, obviously. Possibly this requires some "Play" [sic] stuff to work.

                                UPDATE: Thanks! You can stop now.

                                (Unless you have read the dozens of replies and have had a materially different experience than those.)

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                                @jwz android 11, downloads the file and imports successfully in google wallet

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                                • wnd@fosstodon.orgW wnd@fosstodon.org

                                  @jwz it:
                                  1. asks if I want to download a file
                                  2. downloads a file with a .pkpass extension
                                  3. asks if I want to open the file
                                  4. opens the file in Google Wallet and asks if I was to add
                                  5. asks if I want to add a ticket to Powerman 5000 at DNA lounge

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                                  @jwz I can send a picture of the QR code and now think you now own my phone

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                                  • jwz@mastodon.socialJ jwz@mastodon.social

                                    If those of you using Android could click on this link and tell me whether it does anything even remotely useful, and if so, some detail about how horrible/stupid the whole experience is, that would be helpful: https://www.jwz.org/images/2026/test.pkpass

                                    And tell me what version you're using, obviously. Possibly this requires some "Play" [sic] stuff to work.

                                    UPDATE: Thanks! You can stop now.

                                    (Unless you have read the dozens of replies and have had a materially different experience than those.)

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                                    @jwz just downloaded, nothing else. Pixel 6a, latest Android

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                                    • sully@splodge.fluff.orgS sully@splodge.fluff.org

                                      @jwz Downloaded the pkpass file using Samsung Internet, I then tried to open the file and got this

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                                      @sully @jwz I got this too lol, I don't think it's related, just some spyware shit. I clicked no thanks and it proceeded to import the pass

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                                      • sully@splodge.fluff.orgS sully@splodge.fluff.org

                                        @jwz Downloaded the pkpass file using Samsung Internet, I then tried to open the file and got this

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                                        @jwz I mean, I could have done the thing but it's a lot of text and warning, some people might not?

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                                        • wnd@fosstodon.orgW wnd@fosstodon.org

                                          @jwz I can send a picture of the QR code and now think you now own my phone

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                                          @jwz so I got this:

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