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Personally I think alt-text is valuable for everyone, not for just people with visual impairments.

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  • yehuda@turtleisland.socialY yehuda@turtleisland.social

    Personally I think alt-text is valuable for everyone, not for just people with visual impairments. I read alt-text all the time. I'm curious if my theory that a wide swath of people read alt-text is true.
    #AltTxt #AltText

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    @Yehuda I dont really read it but i still think its important to have.

    But i use subtitles on movies etc even though i speak the language, so yeah these things arent always *just* for the people you might have in mind first.

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    • yehuda@turtleisland.socialY yehuda@turtleisland.social

      Personally I think alt-text is valuable for everyone, not for just people with visual impairments. I read alt-text all the time. I'm curious if my theory that a wide swath of people read alt-text is true.
      #AltTxt #AltText

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      @Yehuda 100%. I read alt text sometimes just to feel less stupid about whatever I was supposed to notice or infer about the image or body text.

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      • yehuda@turtleisland.socialY yehuda@turtleisland.social

        Personally I think alt-text is valuable for everyone, not for just people with visual impairments. I read alt-text all the time. I'm curious if my theory that a wide swath of people read alt-text is true.
        #AltTxt #AltText

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        @Yehuda I read most of them out of curiosity.

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        • yehuda@turtleisland.socialY yehuda@turtleisland.social

          Personally I think alt-text is valuable for everyone, not for just people with visual impairments. I read alt-text all the time. I'm curious if my theory that a wide swath of people read alt-text is true.
          #AltTxt #AltText

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          @Yehuda the curb cut principle

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          • rozeboosje@masto.aiR rozeboosje@masto.ai

            @Yehuda Yup. No visual deficiencies. Always read it. Always write it.

            With memes I tend to keep it short. E.g. I just say "finger guy meme" for the one on this reply. When it's something visual I describe it. When it's one of my cats I like to keep it funny and I use their names, "calico tortie Thebe" or "tuxedo tom Tobi".

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            @rozeboosje @Yehuda yeah, I also subscribe to the idea of "getting to the point" when writing alt text. I take the "alt" part to heart, focusing on "the point" or key details of why I posted it, instead of going full descriptive text. Sometimes "full descriptive" is the intent tho.

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            • yehuda@turtleisland.socialY yehuda@turtleisland.social

              Personally I think alt-text is valuable for everyone, not for just people with visual impairments. I read alt-text all the time. I'm curious if my theory that a wide swath of people read alt-text is true.
              #AltTxt #AltText

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              @Yehuda (I voted "I'm not visually impaired and often read alt text" although I'm technically visually impaired because I'm short sighted. But it's not influencing if I'm able to see pictures posted here: I always wear my glasses or hold my phone close enough to my face to be able to see the screen clearly)

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              • gloriouscow@oldbytes.spaceG gloriouscow@oldbytes.space

                @realtegan @Yehuda

                i like hiding little bits of humor in alt text but i've worried that overdoing it might be annoying to people with actual need for it

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                @gloriouscow @realtegan @Yehuda

                I like to add extra bits of humour especially with them in mind. Or some more background info. I don’t think it’s annoying, more like a little extra treat that makes reading it more enjoyable.

                I think alt-text readers all deserve an extra smile or giggle 🙂

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                • springdiesel@spore.socialS springdiesel@spore.social

                  @Yehuda

                  I'm intermittently impaired and often read alt text whether impaired or not. Sometimes I see an image fine but don't understand something about it.

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                  @springdiesel @Yehuda Yeah! I don't consider myself impaired, but some posts really don't provide enough context without alt text. I don't think most people need full descriptive text, but hitting on "why" you chose to include this image succinctly can greatly improve everyone's understanding.

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                  • yehuda@turtleisland.socialY yehuda@turtleisland.social

                    Personally I think alt-text is valuable for everyone, not for just people with visual impairments. I read alt-text all the time. I'm curious if my theory that a wide swath of people read alt-text is true.
                    #AltTxt #AltText

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                    #29

                    @Yehuda I've disabled media previews in my Mastodon app, so I only see alt text or the ugly "no description" message when it's absent. Then I decide if I wanna click to see the pic/vid/gif.

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                    • yehuda@turtleisland.socialY yehuda@turtleisland.social

                      Personally I think alt-text is valuable for everyone, not for just people with visual impairments. I read alt-text all the time. I'm curious if my theory that a wide swath of people read alt-text is true.
                      #AltTxt #AltText

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                      @Yehuda It is so useful on a small screen and adds context if it’s a meme I’m not familiar with.

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                      • yehuda@turtleisland.socialY yehuda@turtleisland.social

                        Personally I think alt-text is valuable for everyone, not for just people with visual impairments. I read alt-text all the time. I'm curious if my theory that a wide swath of people read alt-text is true.
                        #AltTxt #AltText

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                        @Yehuda
                        I'm not visually impaired, but my facial recognition skills suck. So when there are images showing famous people I'm supposed to recognize to understand what the whole post/thread is about, I'm very, very thankful for alt text telling me who it is I'm looking at

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                        • yehuda@turtleisland.socialY yehuda@turtleisland.social

                          Personally I think alt-text is valuable for everyone, not for just people with visual impairments. I read alt-text all the time. I'm curious if my theory that a wide swath of people read alt-text is true.
                          #AltTxt #AltText

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                          @Yehuda I love alt text! Its another chance to be spicy!

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                          • scandigonian@pnw.zoneS scandigonian@pnw.zone

                            @Yehuda
                            At this point, 245 people have taken this survey and only 2% say, "I'm visually impaired & often read AltTxt."

                            I'm surprised it's that low.

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                            @scandigonian @Yehuda I don't mean this to offend anyone, but those of us that are vocal about alt text might just be louder than those who need it. 😅

                            It's a bit like that crude joke "How do you know someone is vegan? They'll tell you". This poll is the perfect bait for anyone who wants—on some level—to brag about their commitment to alt text. I'd be lying if I didn't say some part of me is fishing for a thank you. However, this poll also highlights that I too have noticed alt text has made the Internet better for me. Hence (IMO) the overwhelming bias towards "not needed but yes I read it".

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                            • gloriouscow@oldbytes.spaceG gloriouscow@oldbytes.space

                              @realtegan @Yehuda

                              i like hiding little bits of humor in alt text but i've worried that overdoing it might be annoying to people with actual need for it

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                              @gloriouscow @realtegan @Yehuda secret alt text FTW

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                              • yehuda@turtleisland.socialY yehuda@turtleisland.social

                                Personally I think alt-text is valuable for everyone, not for just people with visual impairments. I read alt-text all the time. I'm curious if my theory that a wide swath of people read alt-text is true.
                                #AltTxt #AltText

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                                @Yehuda I often am out and about with really bad internet, it is super useful

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                                • yehuda@turtleisland.socialY yehuda@turtleisland.social

                                  Personally I think alt-text is valuable for everyone, not for just people with visual impairments. I read alt-text all the time. I'm curious if my theory that a wide swath of people read alt-text is true.
                                  #AltTxt #AltText

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                                  @Yehuda

                                  To be clear and transparent, I answered “not visually impaired” even though I am visually impaired but get full functional correction from lenses.

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                                  • yehuda@turtleisland.socialY yehuda@turtleisland.social

                                    Personally I think alt-text is valuable for everyone, not for just people with visual impairments. I read alt-text all the time. I'm curious if my theory that a wide swath of people read alt-text is true.
                                    #AltTxt #AltText

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                                    @Yehuda I agreed with you before I saw the poll results, which absolutely agree with you.

                                    I'm reminded of a cartoon I saw of a caretaker shovelling snow off the steps into a school, saying something like "when I'm done with this, I can work on the ramp." The response is "yeah, but if you did the ramp first, then everyone could get in together."

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                                    • yehuda@turtleisland.socialY yehuda@turtleisland.social

                                      Personally I think alt-text is valuable for everyone, not for just people with visual impairments. I read alt-text all the time. I'm curious if my theory that a wide swath of people read alt-text is true.
                                      #AltTxt #AltText

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                                      @Yehuda@turtleisland.social i misread the poll, remove one vote from "i am visually impaired and often read alt text" and add it to "i am not visually impaired and often read alt text"

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                                      • yehuda@turtleisland.socialY yehuda@turtleisland.social

                                        Personally I think alt-text is valuable for everyone, not for just people with visual impairments. I read alt-text all the time. I'm curious if my theory that a wide swath of people read alt-text is true.
                                        #AltTxt #AltText

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                                        @Yehuda I'm not visually impaired and do indeed often read alt text. It's sometimes useful for stuff like figuring out what is actually going on in an image/video for example. I can't emphasize enough how much it helps sometimes when people present a thing they just get, but some of us don't. Especially with things like when we're supposed to recognize a particular person or something in an image. Alt text can tell us what any of it even means when otherwise we have no clue. Also sometimes my connection is acting up and it's the only way I can even know what's in a post when the images or videos don't load.

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                                        • yehuda@turtleisland.socialY yehuda@turtleisland.social

                                          Personally I think alt-text is valuable for everyone, not for just people with visual impairments. I read alt-text all the time. I'm curious if my theory that a wide swath of people read alt-text is true.
                                          #AltTxt #AltText

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                                          @Yehuda

                                          I usually put more posting text in the image's alt text than I do in the post.

                                          I'm often frustrated by how often the alt text reporting bot ranks my instance. Sometimes we get over 50%, but not often.

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