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Personally I think alt-text is valuable for everyone, not for just people with visual impairments.

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  • gloriouscow@oldbytes.spaceG gloriouscow@oldbytes.space

    @realtegan @Yehuda

    i like hiding little bits of humor in alt text but i've worried that overdoing it might be annoying to people with actual need for it

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    @gloriouscow @realtegan @Yehuda

    I like to add extra bits of humour especially with them in mind. Or some more background info. I don’t think it’s annoying, more like a little extra treat that makes reading it more enjoyable.

    I think alt-text readers all deserve an extra smile or giggle 🙂

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    • springdiesel@spore.socialS springdiesel@spore.social

      @Yehuda

      I'm intermittently impaired and often read alt text whether impaired or not. Sometimes I see an image fine but don't understand something about it.

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      @springdiesel @Yehuda Yeah! I don't consider myself impaired, but some posts really don't provide enough context without alt text. I don't think most people need full descriptive text, but hitting on "why" you chose to include this image succinctly can greatly improve everyone's understanding.

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      • yehuda@turtleisland.socialY yehuda@turtleisland.social

        Personally I think alt-text is valuable for everyone, not for just people with visual impairments. I read alt-text all the time. I'm curious if my theory that a wide swath of people read alt-text is true.
        #AltTxt #AltText

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        #29

        @Yehuda I've disabled media previews in my Mastodon app, so I only see alt text or the ugly "no description" message when it's absent. Then I decide if I wanna click to see the pic/vid/gif.

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        • yehuda@turtleisland.socialY yehuda@turtleisland.social

          Personally I think alt-text is valuable for everyone, not for just people with visual impairments. I read alt-text all the time. I'm curious if my theory that a wide swath of people read alt-text is true.
          #AltTxt #AltText

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          #30

          @Yehuda It is so useful on a small screen and adds context if it’s a meme I’m not familiar with.

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          • yehuda@turtleisland.socialY yehuda@turtleisland.social

            Personally I think alt-text is valuable for everyone, not for just people with visual impairments. I read alt-text all the time. I'm curious if my theory that a wide swath of people read alt-text is true.
            #AltTxt #AltText

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            #31

            @Yehuda
            I'm not visually impaired, but my facial recognition skills suck. So when there are images showing famous people I'm supposed to recognize to understand what the whole post/thread is about, I'm very, very thankful for alt text telling me who it is I'm looking at

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            • yehuda@turtleisland.socialY yehuda@turtleisland.social

              Personally I think alt-text is valuable for everyone, not for just people with visual impairments. I read alt-text all the time. I'm curious if my theory that a wide swath of people read alt-text is true.
              #AltTxt #AltText

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              @Yehuda I love alt text! Its another chance to be spicy!

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              • scandigonian@pnw.zoneS scandigonian@pnw.zone

                @Yehuda
                At this point, 245 people have taken this survey and only 2% say, "I'm visually impaired & often read AltTxt."

                I'm surprised it's that low.

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                #33

                @scandigonian @Yehuda I don't mean this to offend anyone, but those of us that are vocal about alt text might just be louder than those who need it. 😅

                It's a bit like that crude joke "How do you know someone is vegan? They'll tell you". This poll is the perfect bait for anyone who wants—on some level—to brag about their commitment to alt text. I'd be lying if I didn't say some part of me is fishing for a thank you. However, this poll also highlights that I too have noticed alt text has made the Internet better for me. Hence (IMO) the overwhelming bias towards "not needed but yes I read it".

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                • gloriouscow@oldbytes.spaceG gloriouscow@oldbytes.space

                  @realtegan @Yehuda

                  i like hiding little bits of humor in alt text but i've worried that overdoing it might be annoying to people with actual need for it

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                  #34

                  @gloriouscow @realtegan @Yehuda secret alt text FTW

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                  • yehuda@turtleisland.socialY yehuda@turtleisland.social

                    Personally I think alt-text is valuable for everyone, not for just people with visual impairments. I read alt-text all the time. I'm curious if my theory that a wide swath of people read alt-text is true.
                    #AltTxt #AltText

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                    #35

                    @Yehuda I often am out and about with really bad internet, it is super useful

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                    • yehuda@turtleisland.socialY yehuda@turtleisland.social

                      Personally I think alt-text is valuable for everyone, not for just people with visual impairments. I read alt-text all the time. I'm curious if my theory that a wide swath of people read alt-text is true.
                      #AltTxt #AltText

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                      #36

                      @Yehuda

                      To be clear and transparent, I answered “not visually impaired” even though I am visually impaired but get full functional correction from lenses.

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                      • yehuda@turtleisland.socialY yehuda@turtleisland.social

                        Personally I think alt-text is valuable for everyone, not for just people with visual impairments. I read alt-text all the time. I'm curious if my theory that a wide swath of people read alt-text is true.
                        #AltTxt #AltText

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                        #37

                        @Yehuda I agreed with you before I saw the poll results, which absolutely agree with you.

                        I'm reminded of a cartoon I saw of a caretaker shovelling snow off the steps into a school, saying something like "when I'm done with this, I can work on the ramp." The response is "yeah, but if you did the ramp first, then everyone could get in together."

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                        • yehuda@turtleisland.socialY yehuda@turtleisland.social

                          Personally I think alt-text is valuable for everyone, not for just people with visual impairments. I read alt-text all the time. I'm curious if my theory that a wide swath of people read alt-text is true.
                          #AltTxt #AltText

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                          #38

                          @Yehuda@turtleisland.social i misread the poll, remove one vote from "i am visually impaired and often read alt text" and add it to "i am not visually impaired and often read alt text"

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                          • yehuda@turtleisland.socialY yehuda@turtleisland.social

                            Personally I think alt-text is valuable for everyone, not for just people with visual impairments. I read alt-text all the time. I'm curious if my theory that a wide swath of people read alt-text is true.
                            #AltTxt #AltText

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                            #39

                            @Yehuda I'm not visually impaired and do indeed often read alt text. It's sometimes useful for stuff like figuring out what is actually going on in an image/video for example. I can't emphasize enough how much it helps sometimes when people present a thing they just get, but some of us don't. Especially with things like when we're supposed to recognize a particular person or something in an image. Alt text can tell us what any of it even means when otherwise we have no clue. Also sometimes my connection is acting up and it's the only way I can even know what's in a post when the images or videos don't load.

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                            • yehuda@turtleisland.socialY yehuda@turtleisland.social

                              Personally I think alt-text is valuable for everyone, not for just people with visual impairments. I read alt-text all the time. I'm curious if my theory that a wide swath of people read alt-text is true.
                              #AltTxt #AltText

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                              @Yehuda

                              I usually put more posting text in the image's alt text than I do in the post.

                              I'm often frustrated by how often the alt text reporting bot ranks my instance. Sometimes we get over 50%, but not often.

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                              • yehuda@turtleisland.socialY yehuda@turtleisland.social

                                Personally I think alt-text is valuable for everyone, not for just people with visual impairments. I read alt-text all the time. I'm curious if my theory that a wide swath of people read alt-text is true.
                                #AltTxt #AltText

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                                I like to put funny bonus content in my alt text and I hope others do to so I check

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                                • yehuda@turtleisland.socialY yehuda@turtleisland.social

                                  Personally I think alt-text is valuable for everyone, not for just people with visual impairments. I read alt-text all the time. I'm curious if my theory that a wide swath of people read alt-text is true.
                                  #AltTxt #AltText

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                                  #42

                                  @Yehuda I have visual impairments, but not blindness specifically. Alt-text is still used by me on occasion for additional context and those times where I'm encountering a slow/spotty connection.

                                  I'd imagine TTS would be handy for those times my eyes are badly fatigued and I can't look at the display.

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                                  • equalitysiren@mstdn.socialE equalitysiren@mstdn.social

                                    @Yehuda Curious if screen readers read poll choices. 🤔

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                                    @equalitysiren @Yehuda Yeah, I'm now wondering that too.

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                                    • yehuda@turtleisland.socialY yehuda@turtleisland.social

                                      ok wow, 613 poll responses in the first 60 mins - Mvto!

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                                      #44

                                      @Yehuda 613!!!

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                                      • yehuda@turtleisland.socialY yehuda@turtleisland.social

                                        Personally I think alt-text is valuable for everyone, not for just people with visual impairments. I read alt-text all the time. I'm curious if my theory that a wide swath of people read alt-text is true.
                                        #AltTxt #AltText

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                                        @Yehuda xkcd made alt-text fun

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                                        • yehuda@turtleisland.socialY yehuda@turtleisland.social

                                          Personally I think alt-text is valuable for everyone, not for just people with visual impairments. I read alt-text all the time. I'm curious if my theory that a wide swath of people read alt-text is true.
                                          #AltTxt #AltText

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                                          @Yehuda I assume I don't count as "visually impaired" because my vision is correctable to 20/20. I mostly use alt text if my connection shits the bed or if I need more context for what I'm looking at

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