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When I was at school they taught us how to make circuit boards using Letraset, ultraviolet light and an acid bath.

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  • diyelectromusic@mastodon.socialD diyelectromusic@mastodon.social

    @drfootleg @grahamdunning Here are my notes from the first time I, a complete novice, designed a PCB and had it built...

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    (these days I always use jlcpcb with most of the default settings)

    Main tip - keeping everything within a 100x100mm 2-layer board means they are ridiculously cheap to get made!

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    @diyelectromusic that's really helpful, thanks.

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    • rayk@techhub.socialR rayk@techhub.social

      @grahamdunning

      for home use, KiCAD is popular for schematic capture and PCB layout.

      For fabrication, there are many vendors that will make PCBs and even populate them. JLBPCB and PCBWAY are two. You can also make two layer boards at home using a desktop CNC such as Carvera Air. And the old acid etch technique is still a low cost option.

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      @rayk great, ta!

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      • grahamdunning@post.lurk.orgG grahamdunning@post.lurk.org

        When I was at school they taught us how to make circuit boards using Letraset, ultraviolet light and an acid bath. (It was completely weird and mysterious to me at the time, I had no concept of why anyone would want to do it). Making a single circuit board or a couple of copies.
        I'm assuming nowerdays there's a way to do this more easily - either with some element of digital fabrication at home or sending off to a fab lab of some sort. I wouldn't know what to even search for - is this a thing?
        #electronics

        firesledge@piaille.frF This user is from outside of this forum
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        @grahamdunning If you’re in the EU, there’s also @aislerhq
        https://aisler.net/

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        • grahamdunning@post.lurk.orgG grahamdunning@post.lurk.org

          When I was at school they taught us how to make circuit boards using Letraset, ultraviolet light and an acid bath. (It was completely weird and mysterious to me at the time, I had no concept of why anyone would want to do it). Making a single circuit board or a couple of copies.
          I'm assuming nowerdays there's a way to do this more easily - either with some element of digital fabrication at home or sending off to a fab lab of some sort. I wouldn't know what to even search for - is this a thing?
          #electronics

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          @grahamdunning It's now so cheap and fast to get boards made to ridiculously high standards that few people make their own. JLCPCB is one popular supplier

          It is possible to etch boards with ferric chloride. Blank boards are available with photo resist, and the mask can be printed on a laser printer.

          It's also possible to mill the copper from a circuit board using a CNC machine tool, which can be quite small if it's only got to take a sliver of copper from a fibreglass board.

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          • firesledge@piaille.frF firesledge@piaille.fr

            @grahamdunning If you’re in the EU, there’s also @aislerhq
            https://aisler.net/

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            @Firesledge @aislerhq great, thanks.

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            • diver300@mastodon.socialD diver300@mastodon.social

              @grahamdunning It's now so cheap and fast to get boards made to ridiculously high standards that few people make their own. JLCPCB is one popular supplier

              It is possible to etch boards with ferric chloride. Blank boards are available with photo resist, and the mask can be printed on a laser printer.

              It's also possible to mill the copper from a circuit board using a CNC machine tool, which can be quite small if it's only got to take a sliver of copper from a fibreglass board.

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              @diver300 ta!

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              • grahamdunning@post.lurk.orgG grahamdunning@post.lurk.org

                When I was at school they taught us how to make circuit boards using Letraset, ultraviolet light and an acid bath. (It was completely weird and mysterious to me at the time, I had no concept of why anyone would want to do it). Making a single circuit board or a couple of copies.
                I'm assuming nowerdays there's a way to do this more easily - either with some element of digital fabrication at home or sending off to a fab lab of some sort. I wouldn't know what to even search for - is this a thing?
                #electronics

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                @grahamdunning We did the acid bath thing too my hazy recollection is that instead of letraset we had some kind of special paint pen to mask out the tracks.

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                • grahamdunning@post.lurk.orgG grahamdunning@post.lurk.org

                  When I was at school they taught us how to make circuit boards using Letraset, ultraviolet light and an acid bath. (It was completely weird and mysterious to me at the time, I had no concept of why anyone would want to do it). Making a single circuit board or a couple of copies.
                  I'm assuming nowerdays there's a way to do this more easily - either with some element of digital fabrication at home or sending off to a fab lab of some sort. I wouldn't know what to even search for - is this a thing?
                  #electronics

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                  @grahamdunning i've definitely seen people order custom circuit boards in ones / twos, so i know it's out there.

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                  • grahamdunning@post.lurk.orgG grahamdunning@post.lurk.org

                    When I was at school they taught us how to make circuit boards using Letraset, ultraviolet light and an acid bath. (It was completely weird and mysterious to me at the time, I had no concept of why anyone would want to do it). Making a single circuit board or a couple of copies.
                    I'm assuming nowerdays there's a way to do this more easily - either with some element of digital fabrication at home or sending off to a fab lab of some sort. I wouldn't know what to even search for - is this a thing?
                    #electronics

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                    @grahamdunning gotta tag @xaxalxe as she makes her own (beautiful) custom PCBs, I'm sure she has a few things to add 😉
                    (btw Lucía, cyber.nymph.garden seems to be down!)

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                    • yhancik@thereisno.computerY yhancik@thereisno.computer

                      @grahamdunning gotta tag @xaxalxe as she makes her own (beautiful) custom PCBs, I'm sure she has a few things to add 😉
                      (btw Lucía, cyber.nymph.garden seems to be down!)

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                      @yhancik oh thanks for telling me about my website, I'll check my server when I get back home !

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                      • sbszine@dice.campS sbszine@dice.camp

                        @grahamdunning We did the acid bath thing too my hazy recollection is that instead of letraset we had some kind of special paint pen to mask out the tracks.

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                        @sbszine ah nice!
                        The only other thing I remember from it was the technician telling us you could use the acid to burn your finger prints off if you wanted to commit some crimes.

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                        • xaxalxe@sunny.gardenX xaxalxe@sunny.garden

                          @yhancik oh thanks for telling me about my website, I'll check my server when I get back home !

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                          @xaxalxe @yhancik ah thanks! Will have to check out the website too.

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                          • grahamdunning@post.lurk.orgG grahamdunning@post.lurk.org

                            When I was at school they taught us how to make circuit boards using Letraset, ultraviolet light and an acid bath. (It was completely weird and mysterious to me at the time, I had no concept of why anyone would want to do it). Making a single circuit board or a couple of copies.
                            I'm assuming nowerdays there's a way to do this more easily - either with some element of digital fabrication at home or sending off to a fab lab of some sort. I wouldn't know what to even search for - is this a thing?
                            #electronics

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                            @grahamdunning in Europe, I've used eurocitcuits.com mostly. And I design in KiCad, which is a fantastic open source software package. By now you can even upload the KiCad files to Eurocircuits, without the need of exporting to Gerber files.

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                            • nescivi@post.lurk.orgN nescivi@post.lurk.org

                              @grahamdunning in Europe, I've used eurocitcuits.com mostly. And I design in KiCad, which is a fantastic open source software package. By now you can even upload the KiCad files to Eurocircuits, without the need of exporting to Gerber files.

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                              @nescivi @grahamdunning

                              Yeah Kicad is the thing ! I usually get my boards made (and delivered within a week !!) at JLC or PCBWay.

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