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  • simonbs@mastodon.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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    @nighthawk Properly a little less, at least from the software industry, but I think authors and artists would give the same backlash.

    Just to be clear: my post isn't meant as backlash, per se. I use AI tools frequently. I just don't want Anthropic etc. to cry about someone stealing from them when that's their entire business.

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    • simonbs@mastodon.socialS simonbs@mastodon.social

      @nighthawk Properly a little less, at least from the software industry, but I think authors and artists would give the same backlash.

      Just to be clear: my post isn't meant as backlash, per se. I use AI tools frequently. I just don't want Anthropic etc. to cry about someone stealing from them when that's their entire business.

      himalaya@mastodon.socialH This user is from outside of this forum
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      @simonbs @nighthawk recursion babyyyyyyyy!! 😍

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        @nighthawk @simonbs

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        Does Open Source AI really exist?

        The OSI has presented their definition of Open Source AI and a closer reading only shows that "Open Source AI" probably just isn't a thing that can exist.

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        Smashing Frames (tante.cc)

        This article might be of interest to you then. Core idea is that that AI in its current meaning is antithetical to open source as it has been understood or free software as it was defined by the FSF. You know, because if they told you everything they trained on, someone motivated should start looking for the entire Harry Potter universe in there just to name a prominent example that has already been in the news for Anthropic specifically.

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        • simonbs@mastodon.socialS simonbs@mastodon.social

          Hypocrites.

          You built an industry on scraping the internet and now you’re shocked someone scraped you. You normalized the idea that anything publicly accessible is fair game for training. That’s the precedent you set. I don’t want to hear you bitch about it now.

          bornach@vis.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
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          @simonbs

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          • simonbs@mastodon.socialS simonbs@mastodon.social

            @nighthawk Properly a little less, at least from the software industry, but I think authors and artists would give the same backlash.

            Just to be clear: my post isn't meant as backlash, per se. I use AI tools frequently. I just don't want Anthropic etc. to cry about someone stealing from them when that's their entire business.

            fsonder@mastodon.ieF This user is from outside of this forum
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            @simonbs @nighthawk Bank Robbers get mugged during getaway!!! Read all about it!!!

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            • simonbs@mastodon.socialS simonbs@mastodon.social

              Hypocrites.

              You built an industry on scraping the internet and now you’re shocked someone scraped you. You normalized the idea that anything publicly accessible is fair game for training. That’s the precedent you set. I don’t want to hear you bitch about it now.

              phl@mastodon.socialP This user is from outside of this forum
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              @simonbs I love the sweet sweet tears of the AI industry in the morning.

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              • simonbs@mastodon.socialS simonbs@mastodon.social

                Hypocrites.

                You built an industry on scraping the internet and now you’re shocked someone scraped you. You normalized the idea that anything publicly accessible is fair game for training. That’s the precedent you set. I don’t want to hear you bitch about it now.

                marc@23.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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                @simonbs it’s like a thief being robbed by another thief, but demanding ethics and a fair game.

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                • simonbs@mastodon.socialS simonbs@mastodon.social

                  Hypocrites.

                  You built an industry on scraping the internet and now you’re shocked someone scraped you. You normalized the idea that anything publicly accessible is fair game for training. That’s the precedent you set. I don’t want to hear you bitch about it now.

                  henryk@chaos.socialH This user is from outside of this forum
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                  @simonbs https://youtu.be/vxnpY0owPkA?t=25

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                  • simonbs@mastodon.socialS simonbs@mastodon.social

                    Hypocrites.

                    You built an industry on scraping the internet and now you’re shocked someone scraped you. You normalized the idea that anything publicly accessible is fair game for training. That’s the precedent you set. I don’t want to hear you bitch about it now.

                    lritter@mastodon.gamedev.placeL This user is from outside of this forum
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                    @simonbs if i was anthropic i'd stfu

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                    • simonbs@mastodon.socialS simonbs@mastodon.social

                      Hypocrites.

                      You built an industry on scraping the internet and now you’re shocked someone scraped you. You normalized the idea that anything publicly accessible is fair game for training. That’s the precedent you set. I don’t want to hear you bitch about it now.

                      npars01@mstdn.socialN This user is from outside of this forum
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                      @simonbs

                      #TranslatedFromTheRepublican

                      "Our stolen car was used by a car thief to steal more cars. "

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                      • simonbs@mastodon.socialS simonbs@mastodon.social

                        Hypocrites.

                        You built an industry on scraping the internet and now you’re shocked someone scraped you. You normalized the idea that anything publicly accessible is fair game for training. That’s the precedent you set. I don’t want to hear you bitch about it now.

                        nazokiyoubinbou@urusai.socialN This user is from outside of this forum
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                        @simonbs Rofl, I'd play the world's tiniest violin for them, but apparently they're down to tardigrade size now according to the memes, so I can't even do that. Oh well.

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                        • simonbs@mastodon.socialS simonbs@mastodon.social

                          Hypocrites.

                          You built an industry on scraping the internet and now you’re shocked someone scraped you. You normalized the idea that anything publicly accessible is fair game for training. That’s the precedent you set. I don’t want to hear you bitch about it now.

                          ulriknyman@mastodon.socialU This user is from outside of this forum
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                          @simonbs Lets just forget about copyright.

                          If it is accessible it should be free to be copied.

                          I hope the EU starts the wave by abolishing US copyright in EU.

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                          • simonbs@mastodon.socialS simonbs@mastodon.social

                            Hypocrites.

                            You built an industry on scraping the internet and now you’re shocked someone scraped you. You normalized the idea that anything publicly accessible is fair game for training. That’s the precedent you set. I don’t want to hear you bitch about it now.

                            landelare@mastodon.gamedev.placeL This user is from outside of this forum
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                            @simonbs Kind of difficult to not root for the scrapers. Please, scrape each other even harder, anything that makes this whole thing collapse a little quicker.

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                            • simonbs@mastodon.socialS simonbs@mastodon.social

                              Hypocrites.

                              You built an industry on scraping the internet and now you’re shocked someone scraped you. You normalized the idea that anything publicly accessible is fair game for training. That’s the precedent you set. I don’t want to hear you bitch about it now.

                              megatronicthronbanks@mastodon.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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                              @simonbs OMG the poetry!

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                              • simonbs@mastodon.socialS simonbs@mastodon.social

                                Hypocrites.

                                You built an industry on scraping the internet and now you’re shocked someone scraped you. You normalized the idea that anything publicly accessible is fair game for training. That’s the precedent you set. I don’t want to hear you bitch about it now.

                                imyke@myke.socialI This user is from outside of this forum
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                                @simonbs they don’t say anything one way or another. Maybe they are proud of them 😂

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                                • simonbs@mastodon.socialS simonbs@mastodon.social

                                  Hypocrites.

                                  You built an industry on scraping the internet and now you’re shocked someone scraped you. You normalized the idea that anything publicly accessible is fair game for training. That’s the precedent you set. I don’t want to hear you bitch about it now.

                                  hackles_raised@mastodon.socialH This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  @simonbs Will someone please think of the billionaires 😭

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                                  • bornach@vis.socialB bornach@vis.social

                                    @simonbs

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                                    @bornach @simonbs such a perfect analogy

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                                    • simonbs@mastodon.socialS simonbs@mastodon.social

                                      Hypocrites.

                                      You built an industry on scraping the internet and now you’re shocked someone scraped you. You normalized the idea that anything publicly accessible is fair game for training. That’s the precedent you set. I don’t want to hear you bitch about it now.

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                                      @simonbs

                                      - YouTube

                                      Auf YouTube findest du die angesagtesten Videos und Tracks. Außerdem kannst du eigene Inhalte hochladen und mit Freunden oder gleich der ganzen Welt teilen.

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                                      • simonbs@mastodon.socialS simonbs@mastodon.social

                                        Hypocrites.

                                        You built an industry on scraping the internet and now you’re shocked someone scraped you. You normalized the idea that anything publicly accessible is fair game for training. That’s the precedent you set. I don’t want to hear you bitch about it now.

                                        shaknais@mastodon.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        @simonbs

                                        They didn't just scrape what was public. They knowingly mass-pirated almost everything they could get their hands on.

                                        So... They'd be fine with people "pirating" their super-secret information, right?

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                                        AI industry horrified to face largest copyright class action ever certified

                                        Copyright class actions could financially ruin AI industry, trade groups say.

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                                        Ars Technica (arstechnica.com)

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