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  3. Close-to-home fallout from the Gulf war: I *was* planning on taking @feorag back to Japan in September for her birthday (a significant number one), but thanks to Netanyahu and Trump that's probably not happening now.

Close-to-home fallout from the Gulf war: I *was* planning on taking @feorag back to Japan in September for her birthday (a significant number one), but thanks to Netanyahu and Trump that's probably not happening now.

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  • cstross@wandering.shopC cstross@wandering.shop

    Close-to-home fallout from the Gulf war: I *was* planning on taking @feorag back to Japan in September for her birthday (a significant number one), but thanks to Netanyahu and Trump that's probably not happening now. Grump. (Jet fuel has nearly doubled in price in the past two weeks and it's not coming down any time soon.)

    Even if the AI bubble *doesn't* burst we're in for a series of supply chain shocks as bad as 2022. And it'll probably get much worse than that.

    axx@mstdn.frA This user is from outside of this forum
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    @cstross @feorag I had a similar idea in mind, this is helpful but also "thanks for dousing my hopes" 🙂

    What rubbish.

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      @jabgoe2089 Yep. This war is going to lead to revolutions in about 6-12 months time—they're traditionally triggered by widespread food precarity (like the Arab Spring, or France in 1788-89). In the EU (and UK) it's probably just going to drive food inflation (and malnutrition among the poor), but in developing nations it's potentially catastrophic.

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      • cstross@wandering.shopC cstross@wandering.shop

        Close-to-home fallout from the Gulf war: I *was* planning on taking @feorag back to Japan in September for her birthday (a significant number one), but thanks to Netanyahu and Trump that's probably not happening now. Grump. (Jet fuel has nearly doubled in price in the past two weeks and it's not coming down any time soon.)

        Even if the AI bubble *doesn't* burst we're in for a series of supply chain shocks as bad as 2022. And it'll probably get much worse than that.

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        @cstross @feorag
        Sad. If you do make it, of course let me know!

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        • a_cubed@mastodon.socialA a_cubed@mastodon.social

          @cstross @feorag
          Sad. If you do make it, of course let me know!

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          @a_cubed @feorag You were on our very short list of who to tell first!

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          • cstross@wandering.shopC cstross@wandering.shop

            @jabgoe2089 Yep. This war is going to lead to revolutions in about 6-12 months time—they're traditionally triggered by widespread food precarity (like the Arab Spring, or France in 1788-89). In the EU (and UK) it's probably just going to drive food inflation (and malnutrition among the poor), but in developing nations it's potentially catastrophic.

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            @cstross @jabgoe2089 Plus other supply chain impacts. Half the world‘s helium production, sulphur for metal / electronics manufacturing,… Chinese producers of plastics-based clinic equiment already declare force majeur, there is an immediate shortage of medical gloves, gowns, etc. Welcome to global supply chains - again.

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            • svenrudloff@chaos.socialS svenrudloff@chaos.social

              @cstross @jabgoe2089 Plus other supply chain impacts. Half the world‘s helium production, sulphur for metal / electronics manufacturing,… Chinese producers of plastics-based clinic equiment already declare force majeur, there is an immediate shortage of medical gloves, gowns, etc. Welcome to global supply chains - again.

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              @svenrudloff @jabgoe2089 Yes, but we can live without new hard drives or MRI machines for longer than we can live without food! That's why I'm calling this a pre-revolutionary situation. (That, and the oligarchs making it painfully clear they've declared class war and their idea of winning includes downsizing the poor through starvation.)

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              • cstross@wandering.shopC cstross@wandering.shop

                @svenrudloff @jabgoe2089 Yes, but we can live without new hard drives or MRI machines for longer than we can live without food! That's why I'm calling this a pre-revolutionary situation. (That, and the oligarchs making it painfully clear they've declared class war and their idea of winning includes downsizing the poor through starvation.)

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                @cstross @jabgoe2089 Absolutely, I am not disputing that. Just wanted to point out that also less-poor countries will quickly see more impact than „just“ high fuel prices very soon. Though it might not lead to revolution (yet one can hope for one or the other facist country).

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                • cstross@wandering.shopC cstross@wandering.shop

                  Close-to-home fallout from the Gulf war: I *was* planning on taking @feorag back to Japan in September for her birthday (a significant number one), but thanks to Netanyahu and Trump that's probably not happening now. Grump. (Jet fuel has nearly doubled in price in the past two weeks and it's not coming down any time soon.)

                  Even if the AI bubble *doesn't* burst we're in for a series of supply chain shocks as bad as 2022. And it'll probably get much worse than that.

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                  @cstross @feorag I also know some people that plan to go Nippon. They think they’ll be taking a plane in two weeks. With a transfer in Dubai.

                  I somehow doubt this will happen.

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                  • cstross@wandering.shopC cstross@wandering.shop

                    Close-to-home fallout from the Gulf war: I *was* planning on taking @feorag back to Japan in September for her birthday (a significant number one), but thanks to Netanyahu and Trump that's probably not happening now. Grump. (Jet fuel has nearly doubled in price in the past two weeks and it's not coming down any time soon.)

                    Even if the AI bubble *doesn't* burst we're in for a series of supply chain shocks as bad as 2022. And it'll probably get much worse than that.

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                    @cstross @feorag

                    so it is great that we booked our flights for Japan in fall already a few months ago

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                    • petersommerlad@mastodon.socialP petersommerlad@mastodon.social

                      @cstross @feorag

                      so it is great that we booked our flights for Japan in fall already a few months ago

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                      @PeterSommerlad @cstross @feorag
                      What are the actual flight paths to Asia from Europe? I would expect a lot of restricted airspace on the way 😬

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